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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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Comments: 655

I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else?

When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.

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#2. To: christine (#0)

Where you have confusion you get noise as the confusion resolves it is likely to get noisier. What I think you are seeing is people who do not want to confront reality. Such noise is the confusion blowing off. Let it proceed to completion and it will stabilize at a new equilibrium.

I would suggest simply enforcing civility should be sufficient restore order.

If people cannot bear to hear a contrary view and have to resort to the bozo to avoid being confronted with data they wish to remain ignorant of that is to their detriment and no one else's.

I've stayed out of the frays because it is a foregone conclusion, to me, that Obummer is just as much under control as Hitlery and McInsane.

So, I choose not to play, but will comment where I think appropriate or useful.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-04   22:49:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've stayed out of the frays because it is a foregone conclusion, to me, that Obummer is just as much under control as Hitlery and McInsane.

Exactly, he's the candidate of the Trilateral Commission. Zbig and Lee Hamilton (and their minions) all endorse him.

It's long past time that the American people realized that "they" are not going to allow you to have a candidate that represents you.

ratcat  posted on  2008-05-05   2:07:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've stayed out of the frays because it is a foregone conclusion, to me, that Obummer is just as much under control as Hitlery and McInsane.

Exactly, he's the candidate of the Trilateral Commission. Zbig and Lee Hamilton (and their minions) all endorse him.

It's long past time that the American people realized that "they" are not going to allow you to have a candidate that represents you.

Exactly. People keep looking for the "Great White Hope" (Ron Paul) or the "Great Black Hope" (Obummer). We can see the smear and minimalization job that was done on Ron Paul and Oh'bummer is just another shill for the Banksters.

I know people who have woken up get frustrated and want it all changed NOW. While I agree with the sentiment I am enough of realist to know that ain't going to happen.

At this point we have two chores:

1. Enlighten and wake up those others who can be woken up. The reality is that some are beyond our current reach and people have got to get this as well. If someone will not, or cannot, look and confront do not waste time on them. Move on to the next person. There is no point in banging your head against a brick wall and trying to wake up people who are mostly too afraid to look or too under control of the PsyOps program. The worst candidates are people who listen to Schlock Radio, and believe it, and those who watch a lot of "Tee Bee". The heavy TV watchers are the worst followed closely by the Dildoeheads.

The Dildoeheads are the most annoying because they are the ones who believe in Dorothy Limbaugh and the Ruby Slippers. They are so trapped in the phoney "two party" Dog and Pony Show that they cannot see the forest for the trees. They are convinced that "they're with it" because Rush has told them what they think. The problem of course is that they don't think and react emotionally just the way that Saint "Pills" has told them that the awful "Lib'ruls" do. The sick irony would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

2. Push at the local level and begin working from the bottom up. By getting our own local areas back under our control it builds our base and our power. This is a slower route and the people looking for "Magic" overnight fixes are too impatient with it - much to the detriment of us all.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-05   11:30:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Push at the local level and begin working from the bottom up. By getting our own local areas back under our control it builds our base and our power

I've given up on the local level. They will wake up when the depression enters their lives (or martial law). I don't have any sympathy for people who are either too dumb to see what's happening or so wrapped up in their own little lives that they can't/won't see out. I did my thing and now I'm done. Even most of the people in the Ron Paul meetup group quit when Paul didn't make a great showing. They actually withdrew their names from the group - like they were ashamed of it. Many of them were just there to keep an eye on the group, not to support Ron Paul.

ratcat  posted on  2008-05-06   0:06:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've given up on the local level. They will wake up when the depression enters their lives (or martial law).

Hate to say this, but the last time a depression hit, government nannyism when into hyperdrive.

I don't have any sympathy for people who are either too dumb to see what's happening or so wrapped up in their own little lives that they can't/won't see out.

It is easy to lose that sympathy. I certainly did.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   2:28:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#607. To: Pinguinite (#482)

Hate to say this, but the last time a depression hit, government nannyism when into hyperdrive.

That's right. And this time will be no exception.

ratcat  posted on  2008-05-09 00:41:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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