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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else? When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.
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#516. To: James Deffenbach (#514)
Saddam planned to deploy 'camels of mass destruction' LOL, funny!
I think you could have saved yourself a lot of grief if you had just remembered the simple fact that POLITICIANS LIE and it wouldn't have made any difference if one of the three whackjobs left in the running made any such promise. Their lips move, they lie. The only one running who would have made any attempt to do away with the unconstitutional gun laws on the books, at least at the level he would have anything to say about, would have been Ron Paul. And of course he isn't a warmonger and wouldn't have been itching to go slay imaginary dragons somewhere in a land beyond the sea (Puff the Magic Dragon).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I've decided to cut my well reasoned posts proportionately over the course of the next year.
Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash. -- Winston Churchill
2 - Have all bozos expire after 30 or 60 or 300 days. good ideas. can #2 be incorporated? i want everyone to be assured that what i am trying to do is in the best interest of 4um and i want to be as fair as possible. of course, i realize no matter what i do, i'm not going to make everyone happy.
We must take back our birthright from the criminals who are stealing it. I'm feeling Ron Paul is ready for another push forward. Who else? If not now, when?
Thank you, Christine.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
And of course the fact that the Obamacons themselves are lying deceiving Marxist white guilter RATs which no filter can fix...=)
I found I had quite a few old non-posting names on my filter. The reduction to 10 worked out fine for me...
Not remotely. When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are...
Try to be a bit more communicative when you post. Specifically what did you just say?
When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are... Let's try it this way: When Ron Paul said that BHO, the CFR's lightning rod, was the lesser of three evils, it confirmed that we're totally screwed here in America...
Yes indeed, it was a good post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Not remotely. When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are... he expressed a lack of confidence in Ron Paul's ability to move forward due to Paul saying that Obama was slightly better than the other 2 major candidates. I agree with him, we're effed up he says.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Here's an example of what we were talking about. This is pure drivel delivered with the specific intent to harass other members into silence. Nothing more. This is the sort of nonsense that robin was bozoing. Not rational discussion. I don't see the harm in her choosing not to participate in this sort of childish tactic.
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Who is the fat one? That is like being given the examples of Maxine Waters and Bella Abzug and asking which is the ugly one.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I agree. and our mass media has contributed to the normalization of this type of political discourse. our people's natural propensity to mediocrity and laziness has sure helped also.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Mve along little boy. The adults are talking here. Come back when you learn to do something besides toss out silly insults.
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That was the discussion last night. Go pull up some the the FOH posts. Pull up fifty or so. He's incapable of making a rational argument. The only thing he can do is insult or disrupt as he did above. So the argument is: What good is he? And why should people be denied the ability to bozo this sort of non-content?
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Who's stopping you from filtering him?
I agree with you on this. The bozo filter was very useful in elimintating the trash talking posters. It would seem that reducing the number of bozo slots is a pretty dumb idea if your intent in to bring back a bit of civility to the forum. I'd personally rather not participate than be exposed to the garbage posts.
And the intent no doubt is to take advantage of such understandable feelings.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Hold on there triple dots. You might use the bozo to demoralize, so stop the BS.
Have you ever heard her say two words? Except maybe something in Johnnie's ear like "don't get to close him, he's not our kind". Every time that prissy bitch is on TV, her nose is stuck high in the air. I couldn't stand her from the moment I saw her. Even Nancy Reagan and Hillary Clinton were more likeable First Ladies. I wonder if Cindy thinks that she married "beneath" her. Even though Mad Mac comes from a family of admirals, he's still not blue blood "old money."
Kinda makes a person wonder, doesn't it?
Thanks for the honest take, Hound. As for JT's NYPD record, we all have records here of one type or another. I judge and am judged by what I post and that goes for all of us. I don't see a reasonably basis for having double standards for political opinions based on one's past real life experience. Ultimately, I don't know Hound. I don't know. We are what we are. I said before that it seems this election season happens to have the characteristics of bringing out differences in us we never would have guessed existed. It's like it's just the right concoction that would make freedom loving people sick when we thought ourselves immune to any poisons they could give. If that was planned intentionally by the PTB's then they planned well.
Certainly could be done but that's a software change, of course. It's a good idea.
It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident. Great post Dawg.
Read for yourself: I'm simply here to keep you busy, ... FOH posted on 2008-05-06 10:41:08 ET Christine, you think limiting the number of names allowed per poster will be an effective tool to discourage problems. I don't know, but this is a problem that needs more than limited filtering can solve.
Perhaps a lesson you've learned on this thread.
Agreed. There are 2 tools handy to deal with posters like these. If one were exercised properly, the bozo filter would not be an issue.
Oh, I believe you. I put FOH on bozo weeks ago, after he made a posting saying he intended to mock and ridicule. I asked myself why I should have to put up with that, and put him on bozo.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
FOH is a perfect example of bozo bait. He's freely admitted that he is here for no other purpose than to harass people he disagrees with. Not debate them, but to intimidate them into silence with his Freeper tactics. Just make it too much bother to post your opinion here. He admitted it to me at the link you posted above and he admitted it to ari a few days back. And if anyone doubts this, call up fifty posts by the guy and count how many amount to a one line attack or a childish image. And the surprising thing is that this guy is one of the people who whined loudest to the mods about how many people had him on bozo.
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I'm sure there are lessons all round.
Enough to make one suspect that his plan all along was to provoke being bozoed, so that he could then complain about it and get the bozo system changed.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I still don't trust you. Not one bit.
If that was the plan, it worked well.
No idea why.
Having done what you did, you couldn't possibly be that stupid, and feigned stupidity should be one obvious reason why I do not trust you. Everyone can see that. Or most, anyway.
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#517. To: Pinguinite (#423)
The real life potential for this hypothetical point is whether it is morally acceptable to vote for someone for president who promises to restore the 2A while also promising to start a war with Iran, admitting that it will mean 10's of thousands or 100's of thousands of innocent Iranians killed. Would it be morally acceptable to vote for him?
Lord Acton
#518. To: christine (#333)
The total number of slots is now 10 rather than 20. I hope that's a decision that everyone can live with, but if not, I understand.
#519. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, robin, iconoclast, Jethro Tull, Pinguinite (#504)
1 - Allow as many bozos as registered members at the site or maybe have a limit of 50 or 100.
#520. To: James Deffenbach, christine, cynicom (#517)
The only one running who would have made any attempt to do away with the unconstitutional gun laws on the books, at least at the level he would have anything to say about, would have been Ron Paul.
#521. To: christine (#472)
disgusting elites! well said, JD!
Lord Acton
#522. To: nolu_chan (#381)
#523. To: christine (#519)
#524. To: christine (#519)
#525. To: angle (#520)
I'm feeling Ron Paul is ready for another push forward.
#526. To: FOH (#525)
#527. To: All (#526)
GOP seeks order to primary chaos (wants nomination rules change this year)
#528. To: angle (#526)
Try to be a bit more communicative when you post. Specifically what did you just say?
#529. To: angle, HOUNDDAWG (#495)
Bump to this excellent well-reasoned analysis. Geez, HOUNDDAWG, you've cetainly earned your respect around here with posts like that.
Lord Acton
#530. To: angle (#526)
I'm feeling Ron Paul is ready for another push forward.
#531. To: Christine (#523)
And of course the fact that the Obamacons themselves are lying deceiving Marxist white guilter RATs which no filter can fix...=)
#532. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#507)
What's the difference between Rosie and Rosanne? I am never sure which is which.
Lord Acton
#533. To: ... (#531)
#534. To: ... (#531)
This is pure drivel delivered with the specific intent to harass other members into silence. Nothing more
#535. To: FOH (#533)
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#536. To: Red Jones (#534)
I agree. and our mass media has contributed to the normalization of this type of political discourse. our people's natural propensity to mediocrity and laziness has sure helped also.
#537. To: ... (#536)
#538. To: ... (#531)
This is the sort of nonsense that robin was bozoing. Not rational discussion. I don't see the harm in her choosing not to participate in this sort of childish tactic.
#539. To: Arete (#538)
I'd personally rather not participate than be exposed to the garbage posts.
#540. To: ... (#536)
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#541. To: iconoclast (#402)
Yeah, and with rich, snotty, self-absorbed bitch smeared all over her.
#542. To: aristeides (#539)
And the intent no doubt is to take advantage of such understandable feelings.
#543. To: HOUNDDAWG (#508)
Do you believe it's possible to be gentle with others as a first order of business here and then see if we can build on that?
#544. To: christine (#519)
2 - Have all bozos expire after 30 or 60 or 300 days.
#545. To: HOUNDDAWG (#508)
And if we fail to recognize that chaos is part of the master plan and ass bite each other, then 4um will become another political themed mosh pit by default.
#546. To: aristeides, arete, ..., christine (#539)
Do you have an intelligent response or are you just going to continue to babble like this?
#547. To: Peppa (#545)
It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident.
#548. To: angle (#546)
Christine, you think limiting the number of names allowed per poster will be an effective tool to discourage problems. I don't know, but this is a problem that needs more than limited filtering can solve.
#549. To: angle, FOH (#546)
#550. To: angle (#546)
#551. To: Pinguinite (#547)
It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident. Perhaps a lesson you've learned on this thread.
#552. To: ..., FOH (#550)
And the surprising thing is that this guy is one of the people who whined loudest to the mods about how many people had him on bozo.
#553. To: Peppa (#551)
I'm sure there are lessons all round.
#554. To: aristeides (#552)
Enough to make one suspect that his plan all along was to provoke being bozoed, so that he could then complain about it and get the bozo system changed.
#555. To: Pinguinite (#553)
I'm sure there are lessons all round. I still don't trust you. Not one bit.
#556. To: Peppa (#555)
No idea why.
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