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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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Views: 19150
Comments: 655

I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else?

When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.

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#521. To: christine (#472)

disgusting elites! well said, JD!

Thank you, Christine.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-06   10:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: nolu_chan (#381)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-06   10:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: christine (#519)

And of course the fact that the Obamacons themselves are lying deceiving Marxist white guilter RATs which no filter can fix...=)


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: christine (#519)

I found I had quite a few old non-posting names on my filter. The reduction to 10 worked out fine for me...

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   10:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: angle (#520)

I'm feeling Ron Paul is ready for another push forward.

Not remotely.

When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: FOH (#525)

Try to be a bit more communicative when you post. Specifically what did you just say?

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   10:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: All (#526)

GOP seeks order to primary chaos (wants nomination rules change this year)

www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10099.html

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi? ArtNum=79907&Disp=1#C1

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   10:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: angle (#526)

Try to be a bit more communicative when you post. Specifically what did you just say?

When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are...

Let's try it this way:

When Ron Paul said that BHO, the CFR's lightning rod, was the lesser of three evils, it confirmed that we're totally screwed here in America...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: angle, HOUNDDAWG (#495)

Bump to this excellent well-reasoned analysis. Geez, HOUNDDAWG, you've cetainly earned your respect around here with posts like that.

Yes indeed, it was a good post.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-06   10:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: angle (#526)

I'm feeling Ron Paul is ready for another push forward.

Not remotely.

When he gave a soft toss up for one of the Establishment lackeys, the racist Marxist One Worlder, it confirmed how effed we all are...

he expressed a lack of confidence in Ron Paul's ability to move forward due to Paul saying that Obama was slightly better than the other 2 major candidates.

I agree with him, we're effed up he says.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-06   10:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: Christine (#523)

And of course the fact that the Obamacons themselves are lying deceiving Marxist white guilter RATs which no filter can fix...=)

Here's an example of what we were talking about. This is pure drivel delivered with the specific intent to harass other members into silence. Nothing more.

This is the sort of nonsense that robin was bozoing. Not rational discussion. I don't see the harm in her choosing not to participate in this sort of childish tactic.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#507)

What's the difference between Rosie and Rosanne? I am never sure which is which.

Who is the fat one?

That is like being given the examples of Maxine Waters and Bella Abzug and asking which is the ugly one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-06   10:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#533. To: ... (#531)


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:22:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#534. To: ... (#531)

This is pure drivel delivered with the specific intent to harass other members into silence. Nothing more

I agree. and our mass media has contributed to the normalization of this type of political discourse. our people's natural propensity to mediocrity and laziness has sure helped also.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-06   10:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: FOH (#533) (Edited)

Mve along little boy. The adults are talking here.

Come back when you learn to do something besides toss out silly insults.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: Red Jones (#534)

I agree. and our mass media has contributed to the normalization of this type of political discourse. our people's natural propensity to mediocrity and laziness has sure helped also.

That was the discussion last night. Go pull up some the the FOH posts. Pull up fifty or so. He's incapable of making a rational argument. The only thing he can do is insult or disrupt as he did above.

So the argument is: What good is he? And why should people be denied the ability to bozo this sort of non-content?

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: ... (#536)

Who's stopping you from filtering him?

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   10:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: ... (#531)

This is the sort of nonsense that robin was bozoing. Not rational discussion. I don't see the harm in her choosing not to participate in this sort of childish tactic.

I agree with you on this. The bozo filter was very useful in elimintating the trash talking posters. It would seem that reducing the number of bozo slots is a pretty dumb idea if your intent in to bring back a bit of civility to the forum. I'd personally rather not participate than be exposed to the garbage posts.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-06   10:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: Arete (#538)

I'd personally rather not participate than be exposed to the garbage posts.

And the intent no doubt is to take advantage of such understandable feelings.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   10:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: ... (#536) (Edited)

Hold on there triple dots.

You might use the bozo to demoralize, so stop the BS.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   10:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: iconoclast (#402)

Yeah, and with rich, snotty, self-absorbed bitch smeared all over her.

Have you ever heard her say two words? Except maybe something in Johnnie's ear like "don't get to close him, he's not our kind".

Every time that prissy bitch is on TV, her nose is stuck high in the air. I couldn't stand her from the moment I saw her. Even Nancy Reagan and Hillary Clinton were more likeable First Ladies.

I wonder if Cindy thinks that she married "beneath" her. Even though Mad Mac comes from a family of admirals, he's still not blue blood "old money."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-06   12:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: aristeides (#539)

And the intent no doubt is to take advantage of such understandable feelings.

Kinda makes a person wonder, doesn't it?

Arete  posted on  2008-05-06   12:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: HOUNDDAWG (#508)

Thanks for the honest take, Hound.

As for JT's NYPD record, we all have records here of one type or another. I judge and am judged by what I post and that goes for all of us. I don't see a reasonably basis for having double standards for political opinions based on one's past real life experience.

Do you believe it's possible to be gentle with others as a first order of business here and then see if we can build on that?

Ultimately, I don't know Hound. I don't know. We are what we are. I said before that it seems this election season happens to have the characteristics of bringing out differences in us we never would have guessed existed. It's like it's just the right concoction that would make freedom loving people sick when we thought ourselves immune to any poisons they could give. If that was planned intentionally by the PTB's then they planned well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   12:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: christine (#519)

2 - Have all bozos expire after 30 or 60 or 300 days.

Certainly could be done but that's a software change, of course. It's a good idea.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   12:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: HOUNDDAWG (#508)

And if we fail to recognize that chaos is part of the master plan and ass bite each other, then 4um will become another political themed mosh pit by default.

It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident.

Great post Dawg.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-06   12:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: aristeides, arete, ..., christine (#539)

Read for yourself:

Do you have an intelligent response or are you just going to continue to babble like this?

I'm simply here to keep you busy, ...

FOH posted on 2008-05-06 10:41:08 ET

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=79910&Disp=15#C15

Christine, you think limiting the number of names allowed per poster will be an effective tool to discourage problems. I don't know, but this is a problem that needs more than limited filtering can solve.

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   13:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: Peppa (#545)

It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident.

Perhaps a lesson you've learned on this thread.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   14:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: angle (#546)

Christine, you think limiting the number of names allowed per poster will be an effective tool to discourage problems. I don't know, but this is a problem that needs more than limited filtering can solve.

Agreed. There are 2 tools handy to deal with posters like these. If one were exercised properly, the bozo filter would not be an issue.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   14:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#549. To: angle, FOH (#546)

Oh, I believe you. I put FOH on bozo weeks ago, after he made a posting saying he intended to mock and ridicule. I asked myself why I should have to put up with that, and put him on bozo.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   14:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#550. To: angle (#546)

FOH is a perfect example of bozo bait. He's freely admitted that he is here for no other purpose than to harass people he disagrees with. Not debate them, but to intimidate them into silence with his Freeper tactics. Just make it too much bother to post your opinion here.

He admitted it to me at the link you posted above and he admitted it to ari a few days back.

And if anyone doubts this, call up fifty posts by the guy and count how many amount to a one line attack or a childish image.

And the surprising thing is that this guy is one of the people who whined loudest to the mods about how many people had him on bozo.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   14:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#551. To: Pinguinite (#547)

It's true. Political 'roid rage isn't by accident. Perhaps a lesson you've learned on this thread.

I'm sure there are lessons all round.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-06   14:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: ..., FOH (#550)

And the surprising thing is that this guy is one of the people who whined loudest to the mods about how many people had him on bozo.

Enough to make one suspect that his plan all along was to provoke being bozoed, so that he could then complain about it and get the bozo system changed.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   14:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#553. To: Peppa (#551)

I'm sure there are lessons all round.

I still don't trust you. Not one bit.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   14:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#554. To: aristeides (#552)

Enough to make one suspect that his plan all along was to provoke being bozoed, so that he could then complain about it and get the bozo system changed.

If that was the plan, it worked well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   14:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#555. To: Pinguinite (#553)

I'm sure there are lessons all round. I still don't trust you. Not one bit.

No idea why.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-06   14:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: Peppa (#555)

No idea why.

Having done what you did, you couldn't possibly be that stupid, and feigned stupidity should be one obvious reason why I do not trust you. Everyone can see that. Or most, anyway.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   14:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#557. To: Pinguinite (#556)

Having done what you did, you couldn't possibly be that stupid, and feigned stupidity should be one obvious reason why I do not trust you. Everyone can see that. Or most, anyway.

Well, okay.. whatever.

Neil, back on the gun thread, when you made the comment about the 2a, I said, wow. Then you stood behind it, and we had a civil talk until you decided I was a shill. I still don't know what that was about. Then, you twisted your argument into something rediculous, and I just got out of the way. If you find that suspicious, then, I can't help you.

As for the privacy issue, I thought it had been addressed and have stated so. So, really, you can choose to believe anything you want to.

Never had an issue with you before the post about the 2a thing.. If you have pent up issues with me, I'm clueleses about them.

Okay?

Moving on.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-06   14:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#558. To: Pinguinite (#556)

Good lord LWAN, that Ecuadorian climate must be getting to you. You've turned into a full blown head case.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   14:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#559. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#541)

he's still not blue blood "old money."

She stikes me as "nouveau-riche".

At any rate, I don't find her terribly attractive.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-06   14:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#560. To: iconoclast (#559) (Edited)

The Wikipedia entry on James Willis Hensley (Cindy McCain's father) makes it sound as if he was a self- made man:

Hensley and his older brother Eugene first began working in the liquor distribution business before World War II, being in the employ of Kemper Marley, Sr., an Arizona rancher who had become wealthy in the liquor distribution business in Phoenix and Tucson following the end of Prohibition. [3] Jim Hensley then served three years as an officer in the United States Army Air Forces during World War II.[2][4] He was a bombardier on B-17 Flying Fortresses.[5][6] On his thirteenth mission,[2] his plane was shot down over the English Channel;[5] in all his planes where shot down three times.[6]

Jim Hensley married the former Marguerite "Smitty" Johnson (b. 1919, d. 2006) [4] [7] on March 29, 1945 in Memphis, Tennessee while he was on leave from the USAAF.[4] They would have one child, Cindy Lou Hensley, born c. 1954.[8]

Following his discharge in 1945, Hensley and his brother went back to work for Marley in his United Sales Company in Phoenix and United Distributors in Tucson. [3][2] In 1948, both brothers were prosecuted by the federal government and convicted of falsifying liquor records to conceal illegal distribution of whiskey against post-war rationing regulations.[9][5] Jim Hensley received a six-month suspended sentence while his brother received a year in federal prison.[9] In 1953, Jim Hensley and Marley were charged by federal prosecutors with falsifying liquor records.[9] Defended by future Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist, they were acquitted.[9][5]

If he was blue-blooded, the Wikipedia entry would mention his parents, but it does not. Also, if he had been blue-blooded, I doubt if the feds would have prosecuted him.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   15:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#561. To: angle, ..., jethro tull, christine, foh, rickyj, nobody222, peppa (#546)

I'm simply here to keep you busy, ...

I saw as many if not more insults and babbling on that thread by three dots than FOH. He's responding to Obamabots (once RPers) the way most of us are... With disbelief, frustration and outrage. FOH was clearly only being sarcastic when he said the above and you try to portray him literally to get him kicked off. You're an idiot! I'm getting really peeved at what is going on here. And I see it mostly from the democrats and Obamaphiles who've come out of the woodwork and retired to their true roosts.

This place looks more like LP everyday.

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