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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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Views: 48774
Comments: 655

I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else?

When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.

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#10. To: christine (#0)

Chrissy, my opinion: I don't think 4um itself is being destroyed. There may have been accusations of 4um being an echo chamber way back in the old days. Obviously, that accusation cannot be made now.

Disagreement is one of the main points of a forum. Sure it may mean some people go, but new people come. That's normal. That's healthy.

I agree that I would not have supposed that the R&D election cycle would bring this kind of discord here. But then again, maybe it's doing a service by bringing more that we really are out. If so, that may be uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean it's wrong or unhealthy forum-wise. It's not the point of 4um to mold any of us into something we aren't. Certainly that's not going to happen except for those individuals that allow themselves to change.

Please take heart that that's how it should be.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-04   22:55:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Disagreement is one of the main points of a forum. Sure it may mean some people go, but new people come. That's normal. That's healthy."

Problem is, if we all ignore variant viewpoints, you get a bunch of folks posting past each other and threads lose what used to make threads interesting...rational debate!!

"I agree that I would not have supposed that the R&D election cycle would bring this kind of discord here. But then again, maybe it's doing a service by bringing more that we really are about. If so, that may be uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean it's wrong or unhealthy forum-wise. It's not the point of 4um to mold any of us into something we aren't. Certainly that's not going to happen except for those individuals that allow themselves to change. Please take heart that that's how it should be."

I think I'm with you, Neil, about the folks not changing unless they are prepared to change. I realize many of my fellow 4umers are part of the ObamaNation and there's nothing I can say to change that. More power to them!!

But if they are free to post, immune to comments and questions from those who may disagree with their viewpoints, what find of 4um is THAT?! It becomes a propoganda center. Heck, I could become a Paulbot and become quite annoying rather quickly...LOL!! If I wanna spew Ron Paul propoganda, I oughtta at least be willing to defend his views on-Forum...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-05-04   23:37:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Problem is, if we all ignore variant viewpoints, you get a bunch of folks posting past each other and threads lose what used to make threads interesting...rational debate!!

"Debate" is not necessarily the be-all end-all. What's wrong with a magazine that gives different opinions about world events? Sure the writers may not read one another's articles, but the general readership will. Do you want to FORCE the writers to read each other's articles? If you want all the articles to agree, maybe, but that may be because some writers walk away.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-04   23:45:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Debate" is not necessarily the be-all end-all. What's wrong with a magazine that gives different opinions about world events? Sure the writers may not read one another's articles, but the general readership will."

Sounds more like an e-zine, not a political forum. When variant viewpoints are aired and debated civilly, it makes for an energetic, interesting Forum.

"Do you want to FORCE the writers to read each other's articles?"

LOL...of course not. But I like to see article posters who are willing to debate/defend what they posted.

"If you want all the articles to agree, maybe, but that may be because some writers walk away."

Nobody's proposing that...this needs to continue to be a big-tent Forum.

Regards...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-05-05   13:06:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"...this needs to continue to be a big-tent Forum. Regards...MUD"

You all understand what Mud is leading up to, right?

"Well, Badeye hasn't asked me to do this, but I was wondering, is there any interest in letting him back on the Forum?......Show of hands...should we let Badeye back on if he promises to behave?......He was good at stirring up the pot...MUD

Official "Restore Badeye's Posting Privileges" Thread (Article)
Post Date: 2008-05-01 00:36:54 From: Mudboy Slim To: All

Big Meanie  posted on  2008-05-05   15:25:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You all understand what Mud is leading up to, right?

Mud's already made a valiant effort to silence the viewpoints he disagrees with over here. He's insulted people, he's tossed out obscenities and he's stalked various posters. Mostly this just earned him a double digit bozo rating that the contempt of the forum.

Mud isn't very bright, but it seems that even he has figured out that he's not going to shut up viewpoints counter to the party line. And he certainly isn't going to refute them. So he needs reinforcements.

...  posted on  2008-05-05   15:32:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

TripleDot, you are a whiner...

"Mud's already made a valiant effort to silence the viewpoints he disagrees with over here."

Evidence, please.

"He's insulted people..."

I give as I get...

"...he's tossed out obscenities..."

Waaaahhh!!

"...and he's stalked various posters."

You are a BALD-FACED LIAR, twinkle-toes.

"Mostly this just earned him a double digit bozo rating that the contempt of the forum."

Nope...three bozos total...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-05-05   16:24:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nope...three bozos total...MUD

You're a liar here. I know five who have you on Bozo and I know there are more.

...  posted on  2008-05-05   17:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#347. To: Mudboy Slim (#341)

Nope...three bozos total...MUD You're a liar here. I know five who have you on Bozo and I know there are more.

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... posted on 2008-05-05 17:07:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

Triple Dots:

How do you know how many bozo's -MUD- has?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-12   8:29:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

How do you know how many bozo's -MUD- has?

I conducted a poll. Why?

...  posted on  2008-05-12   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I conducted a poll. Why?

With who, your sock puppets?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-14   18:12:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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