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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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Views: 18807
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I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else? When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.
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#89. To: Pinguinite, robin, Jethro Tull, all (#82)
regarding the bozo, i think the solution is a compromise. we'll keep the feature, but limit the number of spaces. i'll be making the decision on what that number should be.
Perhaps you need to MYOB about who puts who on bozo. The kill file function has been a part of this software for years. And opponents in an argument or lively discussion almost never change their minds in the course of an argument or lively discussion so the smart money has always been on a lurker focus in forum comments in the first place. I have no sympathy for this sort of attack based on such a naval contemplation point.
I can ignore with a simple scroll by, I don't need the bozo function. In this tangent of attack, the malfunction lies with the Prima Donnas whining about who bozos them, not those using the function as designed.
You admitted it neil. Like i said, it's between you and Christine. Perhaps a software change where access to read is permitted only by the forum owner.
I am confused. Why should anyone give a rats ass if someone has them on bozo? I think the real solution is to take the bozo count off the set up page. Then you wouldn't know how many people had you on bozo.
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Which is why the bozo counts are not publicized. If people weren't starting threads about how many people have them on bozo, JT, then maybe this wouldn't rise to the level of a rating system. Is that why you started that thread? Have you been campaigning for this change?
That's my opinion. If you disagree, MYOB.
That's what I do.. Except I do choose to 'ignore threads' from time to time.
Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me. :)
Tagline space for rent.
I don't think that's possible on a Unix server where the operator needs to have root access. It would require some kind of encryption key, and even then it might not be possible. A simpler solution is to say that if you don't trust the webmaster, don't pour out your guts in a PM. Use regular email for that.
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God is always good! RickyJ i'm not trying to cause problems between you two, but, robin, if you have rickyj bozo'ed, then you can't see a supportive and complimentary post like that.
That was very nice, thank you Ricky. You contribute a lot here too.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
As I said above, the real solution might be to take the bozo count off the content filter page. Then no one would know how many people had them on bozo.
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LOL!! I don't, but, the fact remains something people should be aware of. I'll leave it at that ...
The thought struck me as the argument began. It was spontaneous. So if you consider an attempt at problem solving some organized campaigning for a change, so be it. I'll tell you this here and now; if it doesn't change, like robin, I'm gone. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt.
Oh I never do when I am this amused by forum versions of stupid pet tricks. I have check out your attack points over the past few weeks and disagree on most of them and leave them alone as unworthy of responding to. I fully feel you have a right to your opinions and leave it at that. But now you are doing a 'poor me' little whiny hair shirt number over the bozo. Grow a pair will ya? Or switch to panties with a narrow enough gusset to fit your true crotch.
That is why the notice was put on the page. To make people aware of it.
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"Smokey Cabal Back Room Propaganda Bar for Obikers, McPikers and HRC-Dykers" ?? (with Ohoes giving free lapdances)
Yep.
Please quit again.
Long time, no post :) I have no dog in this hunt, but FWIW, three points: a) the bozo filter is a valuable tool. I personally don't use it as I wish to know what is being said. But many posters whom I respect greatly and whom I think are an asset to your forum, benefit from their use of the bozo filter. b) I'll re-iterate my long held personal belief that the "acid" that eats away at this forum, as it has eaten away at other forums, is the incivility: the personal attacks, the vulgarities, etc. If someone can't make their point without swearing and attacking someone else personally, they really don't have a point worth discussing - they just have a vendetta. But that kind of constant barrage of incivility (from all sides, from any side) eats away at a forum. It drives away lurkers, it spams threads, and it smothers discussion. If you're in a mood to try something new, try banning (even temporarily after a warning or three), whomever in your opinion persists in vulgar personal attacks and who doesn't debate but just rants. Remove the uncivil, let the dust settle, see what that looks like. c) I don't believe for one second that Neil McIver has ever has read PM's, aside from any sent to him or any involved in software/database problems. Regardless, should he need to, Neil McIver is one of the few people I would trust to read my PM's. If I had a forum I wouldn't hesitate to give Neil the keys. The guy is as honest, trustworthy, and transparent as you'll ever find. Otherwise, best wishes to you and all.
(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)
In your own reality Peppa, yes it's true. Believe it, as I said. And I note you still post NOTHING to support your accusation beyond my "admission". No, no. You ain't dumping this load of crap and then claiming you aren't involved. You are in up to your eyeballs. You dumped it, you are IN it. You are a liar and I know it! From a computer professional to a complete novice: As long as the service is hosted on my server, I can get any kind of access I want by bypassing the web access completely. Christine can only remove my access by transferring the site to another server which I do not control, and even then, if she enlists my help in maintenance, I could most certainly get any access I want while rendering such services. Feel free to use this "admission" against me in any future slanderous accusations. So nice to know I've been accused as I have from a complete computer novice.... I assume, quite safely I *know* that you have nothing *nothing* with with to back up your slander. You, Peppa are a fraud. As far as I am concerned, you do not belong here. But I might be inclined to change my mind if you could make up some plausible explanation for making this accusation on this thread. How good are you at that sort of thing?
No kidding! Good to see you! Do stick around!
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Stop whining, it's lame.
I don't actually care what you think of me. You have admitted what you are, behaved horribly, and now continue to show what you are not. So, you know... it's not my problem.
Pipe down, lefty. Your tree hugging act has worn thin.
You are one serious piece of work Neil...if anyone needs accountability here, it's you.
You know, you might have something there! That display was certainly an add-on after the bozo filter. I thought it would be a good indicator to a user as to how they are coming off, but yes, it seems that serious people would never really care or need to know.
We could have three slots on the bozo that keep the posts from appearing. We could then also have a ten slot "byeltsinater" that made the posts come out like this: Make .. it -- ((3!)) ... so - no -- one ... (else!) ... can -- bozo ... ME! Or maybe a multi slot "Mudboy Function" that transformed the posts as follows: Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me, penis breath ... MUD. A BeAChooser function is also possible: Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me. KOOK! ROTFLOL!
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I am very amused by all this. I'm not going anywhere. But thanks for sharing anyway.
I'm not a serious person, so I wanna know not only how many, but who they are, so I can make fun of them on every thread and they can't see it.
Tagline space for rent.
We could then also have a ten slot "byeltsinater" that made the posts come out like this: Make .. it -- ((3!)) ... so - no -- one ... (else!) ... can -- bozo ... ME! Or maybe a multi slot "Mudboy Function" that transformed the posts as follows: Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me, penis breath ... MUD. A BeAChooser function is also possible: Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me. KOOK! ROTFLOL! Or an Obamaphile feature that could fill up the forum with endless rants about a racist Marxist baby slaughtering gun grabbing elitist Establishment member ??
That's a great idea, or we can even make it a Paloator: Make it 3 love palo
Tagline space for rent.
LOL! Can we add in the double flipback magic button so you can see it, but they don't know you can??
Maybe not now, but you will. That's your history. I hear Prozac helps.
It's an alternate tactic for those who can't defend their position. They use the personal attacks to punish those who post well thought out opinions that they disagree with - but can't refute. Yukon, ALS and most freeper types resort to this.
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Or how about a McCain booster that fills up every post with silly, childish, goober exciting, vapid, hot button, Limbaugh style mindless hate speech like "Marxist", "Gun Grabber", "elitist", or "Baby Slaughterer"?
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*sigh* - You do make a good point there Starwind. I do sometimes boil over and pour out a lot of profane invective when I'm especially angry about something. I'll do my best to keep the profanity in check from now on. No promises, mind you. But, I'll try.
#90. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
"Since the bozo has become a tool to demoralize in my opinion (I just picked up another during this thread) I think a MAXIMUM number might be the way to go. LF had a goofy rating system that was misused in a similar fashion. If anyone has more than three to five people they can't stand, perhaps they're in the wrong place."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#91. To: christine (#89)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#92. To: Pinguinite (#79)
If the webmaster can't be trusted, as you have said, you have your rights to do whatever you want, then, of course, it's up to everyone to decide whether it's worth it to accomodate your nose in their butt. Still no evidence
#93. To: Ferret Mike (#90)
#94. To: Jethro Tull (#88)
Breaking down into tiny, non communicative camps? LF was ruined by an organized "rating system" and now the bozo is being used in the same way.
#95. To: Ferret Mike (#90)
#96. To: Ferret Mike (#91)
I can ignore with a simple scroll by, I don't need the bozo function
#97. To: christine (#89)
#98. To: Peppa (#92)
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Perhaps a software change where access to read is permitted only by the forum owner.
#99. To: RickyJ, robin (#87)
I don't think that would help this forum at all. This forum needs contributors and you contribute a lot.
#100. To: christine, RickyJ (#99)
#101. To: Pinguinite (#94)
#102. To: ... (#98)
A simpler solution is to say that if you don't trust the webmaster, don't pour out your guts in a PM. Use regular email for that.
#103. To: Pinguinite (#94)
Is that why you started that thread? Have you been campaigning for this change?
#104. To: Jethro Tull (#95)
"That's my opinion. If you disagree, MYOB."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#105. To: Peppa (#102)
I don't, but, the fact remains something people should be aware of.
#106. To: Jethro Tull, christine (#95)
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#107. To: ... (#105)
That is why the notice was put on the page. To make people aware of it.
#108. To: Ferret Mike (#104)
#109. To: christine, Pingunite (#0)
#110. To: Peppa (#92)
You admitted it neil.
Like i said, it's between you and Christine.
Perhaps a software change where access to read is permitted only by the forum owner.
#111. To: Starwind (#109)
Long time, no post :)
#112. To: Jethro Tull (#108)
"Please quit again."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#113. To: Pinguinite (#110)
You, Peppa are a fraud. As far as I am concerned, you do not belong here. But I might be inclined to change my mind if you could make up some plausible explanation for making this accusation on this thread. How good are you at that sort of thing?
#114. To: Ferret Mike (#112)
#115. To: Pinguinite (#110)
You, Peppa are a fraud. As far as I am concerned, you do not belong here.
#116. To: ... (#93)
I think the real solution is to take the bozo count off the set up page. Then you wouldn't know how many people had you on bozo.
#117. To: Critter (#97)
Make it 3 so no one else can bozo me. :)
#118. To: Jethro Tull (#114)
"Pipe down, lefty. Your tree hugging act has worn thin."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#119. To: Pinguinite (#116)
but yes, it seems that serious people would never really care or need to know.
#120. To: ... (#117)
We could have three slots on the bozo that keep the posts from appearing.
#121. To: ... (#117)
So no one else
can bozo me
#122. To: Critter (#119)
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I'm not a serious person, so I wanna know not only how many, but who they are, so I can make fun of them on every thread and they can't see it.
#123. To: Ferret Mike (#118)
I'm not going anywhere. But thanks for sharing anyway.
#124. To: Starwind (#109)
I'll re-iterate my long held personal belief that the "acid" that eats away at this forum, as it has eaten away at other forums, is the incivility: the personal attacks, the vulgarities, etc.
#125. To: FOH (#120)
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Or an Obamaphile feature that could fill up the forum with endless rants about a racist Marxist baby slaughtering gun grabbing elitist Establishment member ??
#126. To: Starwind (#109)
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#127. To: Jethro Tull (#123)
I was at 9 and now am at 11 filters I occupy. This is incredible, I should win going away...only 14 minutes left.
#128. To: ... (#125)
Nah, a McPain booster would say, My friends, there are going to be more bozos, many more bozos, and you may be bozoed for 50 years, maybe 100 years...
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