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Title: Five Indicators that Point to Clinton preparing to Stop Her Campaign after NC/IN
Source: grantcart blog - DU
URL Source: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/69
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: grantcart
Post Date: 2008-05-05 00:28:59 by nolu_chan
Keywords: None
Views: 130
Comments: 6

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/69

Five Indicators that Point to Clinton preparing to Stop Her Campaign after NC/IN

Posted by grantcart in General Discussion: Primaries
Sun May 04th 2008, 01:20 PM

1) Continuing Financial Problems

The Clintons were boasting about the huge bounce in fund raising after PA, including $ 10 million in one day. And yet at the end of the month there has been no announcement. If she had in fact taken in more than $ 20 million then you would expect her to boast about it. No announcement and no rumors.

2) Unable to buy enough ads.

Unable to buy enough ads the campaign has thrown away the law book and made an obvious end around the rules to use money from maxed out donors.

Details here:

3) Change of Message – Stopped using messages that are GE divisive issues

The Clinton campaign has changed radically their message recently and have stopped using the issues that are most damaging to the party in the General Election. She has stopped referring to FL and MI delegates with the incendiary language they used before.

They have stopped even talking about the ‘popular vote’. They know now that they are not going to have any significant advantage in the popular vote.

They no longer refer to issues aimed at damaging Obama. They are running on pure pandering issues – Guam voting in presidential elections (requiring a constitutional amendment) and the silly “Gas Tax Holiday”. If they were going to launch a devastating last minute attack it would be out already.

She is now going out of her way stating that she will be ‘working her heart out’ in November.

4) Change of use of surrogates.

Nothing would be more embarrassing than to send out your ‘mad dog’ surrogates and then stop the campaign the next day. Over the last week the number and use of surrogates has changed and their tone is different. When Clinton’s own DNC Chair changed support from Clinton to Obama – no ‘Judas’ no attack.

5) An indication that they can count.

On Friday the Clinton campaign had their biggest SD day in the campaign. They picked up 4 Super Delegates. There was no press conferences no public appearances nothing. This is not a sign of a campaign that believes things are getting better.

And then there is this video of James Carville that basically admits that, barring Obama taking himself out of the campaign Hillary cannot win:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ACAOYv3DKk

This is not to say that the Clinton campaign has made a decision to stop on Tuesday. It does indicate that if the results do not bring in a substantial win for Hillary that they have layed the foundation for limiting damage and trying to leave on top. Perhaps a speech has been prepared for Tuesday.

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#1. To: nolu_chan (#0)

Last week I read an article where she said of course she would support Obama in the general election if he wins the nomination.

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-05   0:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nolu_chan (#0)

Those indicators could also mean that they have something up their sleeve, and aren't worried about (s)election results

------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-05-05   8:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#2)

As I have said before, there is a reason no life insurance company will write a policy for the Dem frontrunner.

Sad to say, but it's the reality of 2008 America just as it was of 1968 America.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-05-05   10:07:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#1)

Would you feel a little uneasy supporting the same candidate and Bill and Hill?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   10:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Old Friend (#4)

I would not like to see Hillary on any ticket. Someone suggested McCain might pick her for VP! :P

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-05   11:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PSUSA (#2)

Those indicators could also mean that they have something up their sleeve, and aren't worried about (s)election results

Hillary is considering using the Rules and Bylaws Committee, where a majority support her, to push through a recognition of FL and MI delegates before the Credentials Committee takes over 56 days prior to the convention. I have posted two articles on this. Such a plan, being referred to as The Nuclear Option, could be derailed by the Credentials Committee.

facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=7495

It’s No Secret: Florida and Michigan Count and Their Delegates Should Be Seated

5/4/2008 9:27:29 PM

The Huffington Post describes a "secret" plan that the Clinton Campaign has to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations. There is no secret plan. In fact, this story misrepresents the process laid out in the DNC rules for resolving the questions surrounding the seating of the Michigan and Florida delegations.

The Clinton campaign has been vocal in stating that the votes of 2.5 million people must be respected. Hardly a day goes by when a Clinton official doesn’t publicly declare that the votes of Michigan and Florida count and that the delegations from those states should be seated.

DNC members from Michigan and Florida have filed challenges with the DNC to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations. The process being followed to adjudicate these challenges is completely consistent with the DNC rules. The Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) is the DNC body charged with dealing with these challenges until the 56th day before the convention, and its process is public and transparent.

The membership of the RBC does not - in large part - turn over. A former Secretary of Labor, and the grandson of FDR who is a long time party activist and has been a co-chair of the committee for several election cycles chair it. Other members include a former chair of the party, Al Gore’s Campaign Manager (who is a former co-chair of the RBC as well), and an executive board member of the NAACP. Although the RBC is comprised of people who support both candidates, these people take their roles as party activits seriously.

The DNC process will decide the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegations. It is an open and transparent process -- unlike the backroom deals proposed by the Obama campaign that would disenfranchise the nearly 2.5 million people who voted in Florida and Michigan.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-05   15:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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