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Title: MAN FOR ALL SEASONS: CHUCK BALDWIN GARNERS NOD FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Source: RepublicBroadcasting.org
URL Source: http://www.republicbroadcasting.org ... lumnists.article&articleID=233
Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Jim Kouri
Post Date: 2008-05-06 10:30:21 by FOH
Keywords: Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin, President
Views: 926
Comments: 92

To some, Chuck Baldwin is the consummate Christian minister. To others, he's a one-man think-tank studying, researching and analyzing the human condition within today's American society.

One minute he's leading a church service for one a large Christian congregation in Florida. Next minute, you'll hear Rev. Baldwin telling his audience why he's against killing innocent, newborn babies on his radio talk show. Or perhaps you'll hear him discussing the US Constitution's close relationship to the Christian Bible and Christian faith.

As if preaching and teaching aren't enough to fill anyone's plate, Pastor Chuck is a prolific writer and columnist who's not afraid to mix "fire and brimstone" into one of his political montages.

I hate using Cliches, but in Rev. Baldwin's case I hope you'll allow me at least one: As was Sir Thomas More -- the thorn in King Henry VIII's side -- Chuck Baldwin is a Man for All Seasons.

And now Pastor Chuck Baldwin can add one more grand achievement to his already bulging list of accomplishments: He is the Constitution Party's candidate for the office of President of the United States. After what was expected to be a tough political battle for the nomination, Baldwin beat his stiffest competition -- the charismatic and brilliant former Ambassador and television news host Alan Keyes.

In fact, many voters were surprised over the relative ease and finesse with which Baldwin captured the nomination. Afterall, Keyes had the name recognition, the political contacts, the Republican bonifides and the intelligence to mentally disarm the vast majority of Democrats and liberal Republicans. However, unlike Pastor Chuck Baldwin, Amb. Keyes could not remove his GOP garments that many conservatives -- out of necessity -- must shed in order to do battle with the forces of evil within America's body-politic.

As a young man, Chuck, who is now 56 years-old, decided to pursue a career in law enforcement. His plan was to join the U.S. Marine Corps and afterward begin working as a Deputy Sheriff in La Porte County, Indiana. The Sheriff at that time was Cliff Arnold. (Arnold later became an Indiana State Representative.) Mr. Arnold had told Chuck that following his tour in the Marines, a position at the Sheriff's office was waiting for him. All that changed in the summer of 1970 when Chuck answered the divine call to the Christian minisitry.

As a result, instead of joining the Marines, Chuck enrolled in Bible College. After graduating from La Porte High School in 1971 Chuck attended Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac, Michigan, for two years. He then married and moved to Lynchburg, Virginia. He enrolled in the Thomas Road Bible Institute (now known as the Liberty Bible Institute at Liberty University) and graduated with his Bible Diploma.

He then earned his Bachelor of Theology and Master of Theology degrees via external degree programs from Christian Bible College in Rocky Mount, North Carolina. Chuck received his first honorary Doctor of Divinity degree from Christian Bible College. He received his second honorary Doctor of Divinity degree from Trinity Baptist College in Jacksonville, Florida.

Dr. Baldwin and his wife met with four others on June 22, 1975. It was first meeting of the Crossroad Baptist Church. The church was organized in September of that year. Six acres of prime property were purchased in 1978. In 1985 the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence. The church has gone through five building programs and has just move into its current 750-seat auditorium and office complex.

The church plans to next construct a gymnasium/youth center. Some of the choice spiritual and political leaders of the nation have spoken in this pulpit including Liberty University Chancellor Jerry Falwell, Reform Party Presidential Candidate Pat Buchanan, Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, Evangelist Pete Rice, U.S.S. Pueblo Intellegence Officer Lt. Commander Steven Harris, Author Salem Kirban, Vietnam Veteran/Evangelist Tim Lee, Author & Liberty University Professor Harold Willmington, Rep. Joe Scarborough, Rep. Jeff Miller, Tortured For Christ Author Harlan Popov, Evangelist Chuck Millhuff, Pastor Walt Hanford, Author/Evangelist Don Boys, Author/Evangelist/ WW II Veteran Kenny McComas, Captain Eugene "Red" McDaniel, Businessman Stanley Tam, Dr. Reed Bell, "Top Gun" Pilot/Gulf War Veteran Commander Sandy Jones, Alabama Governor Fob James, Jr., Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, 2000 Constitution Party Presidential Candidate Howard Phillips, Reform Party Vice Presidential Candidate Ezola Foster, D. James Kennedy Associate Janet Folger, 2004 Constitution Party Presidential Candidate Michael Peroutka, Former Pastor of the Indianapolis Baptist Temple, Dr. Greg Dixon, Ambassador Alan Keyes, and others.

RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Dr. Baldwin is the host of a lively, hard-hitting radio talk show called, "Chuck Baldwin Live." This is a daily, one hour long call-in show in which Dr. Baldwin addresses current event topics from a conservative Christian point of view.

This program, which has been on the air for nearly seven years now, has been highly successful in helping to elect conservatives to local, state and national offices.

"Chuck Baldwin Live" is regarded as perhaps the most influential voice in the Florida Panhandle for conservative, Christian principles. Thousands of concerned citizens are being informed and inspired to social and political activism as a direct result of this radio talk show. Chuck's guest list reads like a "Who's Who" from both the local and national scene. The program made its national debut in early May 2001 on the Genesis Communications Network.

MORAL MAJORITY LEADER: From 1980-1984 Dr. Baldwin served as Pensacola Chairman, and then State Chairman of the Florida Moral Majority. Through these efforts many successful rallies and conferences were conducted. (One rally drew nearly 2,000 people during a driving rain storm.) Pro-family legislation was enacted, and Christians were educated as to moral-political information and involvement. Also, thousands of new conservative voters were generated.

AUTHOR: Chuck has authored two books. The first is entitled "Subjects Seldom Spoken On" which contains eleven sermons not normally addressed. The second, "This Is The Life," is a verse-by-verse exposition of the Epistles of John. Numerous theological booklets have also been written by Dr. Baldwin, including the popular, "Let's Look at Legalism." Through his radio program Dr. Baldwin has edited and produced "The Freedom Documents." This volume contains over fifty of the most important and influential documents of American history. No where else that we know of can you find these great, historic documents under one title. Chuck also writes daily editorials that are sent to thousands of subscribers electronically. These editorial opinions are carried by several newspapers, newsletters, and Internet web sites around the country

NEWSPAPER AND INTERNET COLUMNIST: Chuck Baldwin is a prolific writer/columnist whose articles and political commentaries are carried by a host of Internet sites, newspapers, and news magazines. His columns have appeared in such national publications as Insight magazine. His articles are featured regularly on Internet news sites such as World Net Daily, Covenant News, News With Views, Alan Keyes' Renew America, Gulf1, Web Today and a host of others. His columns also appear regularly in newspapers such as the Greenville, South Carolina Times Examiner and The Independent Florida Sun.

MEDIA APPEARANCES: Chuck has appeared on virtually every local media outlet in the Pensacola, Florida area including television, radio, and newspaper. He has also appeared on national television networks, including CNN and MSNBC. ABC television news once filmed his radio broadcast for a feature story. He has appeared on prime time national news shows such as Scarborough Country on MSNBC and Anderson Cooper on CNN. He has also appeared on the German Radio Network, and the British Broadcasting Corporation's television network. Chuck has also been featured in national magazines and newspapers such as Esquire, The Miami Herald, and The Washington Times.

DISTINCTIONS: Chuck Baldwin has preached in churches all over the United States and overseas. He has spoken at several notable events including being the keynote speaker at the 50th anniversary of D-Day celebration at the Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Dr. Baldwin has been proclaimed an honorary member of both the Pensacola City Council and the Women for Responsible Legislation.

He has appeared before the Tiger Bay Club as well as several civic organizations. He has also been the guest of honor at a meeting of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He was also awarded the Bronze Medal of Patriotism by the Sons of the American Revolution.Twice, Dr. Baldwin was proclaimed "Minister Of The Day" in the Florida House of Representatives.

Recently, this distinction was awarded to him by the Florida State Senate. Also, Pastor Baldwin has had audiences with former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, Sr. and Governors Bob Martinez, Fob James, Jr. and Jeb Bush. He has also been officially recognized by the Escambia County Florida Sheriffs Department as an Honorary Deputy Sheriff.Dr. Baldwin is a member of the Board of Directors for Gospel Radio Latin America (G.R.L.A.) in Ft. Worth, Texas, and on the Board of Regional Vice Presidents for Trinity Baptist College in Jacksonville, Florida. He received the "National Medal of Patriotism" award from the American Police Hall of Fame and is a volunteer chaplain at the State Prison in Century, Florida. He is also listed in "Who's Who of the Gulf Coast."

There is so much more American voters should know about Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and as his presidential campaign proceeds, rest assured you'll see my coverage of his White House race.

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#24. To: ... (#20)

So you obviously want to do something about it.

Hardly.

But I will take someone with a Biblical world view over some Marxist-wiccan every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: IndieTX (#23)

No one can see that white sheet you're wearing when you post online.../s


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: FOH (#21)

So what gives you the right to chose Ferret's religion? Or attack his religion? I am curious .... and you are avoiding the question.

I maintain that you and your candidate are busy body control freaks whose idea of freedom is to let a bunch of ignorant rapture monkeys run our lives. Don't bother to answer if I am correct.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ... (#22)

You're babbling again. Here's a hint. Don't post until you have a complete thought put together.

Babble, babble, blah, blah, yada yada...I could be an Obama poster with a little work.


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FOH (#24)

But I will take someone with a Biblical world view over some Marxist-wiccan every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays...

And if you had your way, so would everyone else .... by force of law.

Am I correct Mr. Contol Freak?

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FOH (#27)

Babble, babble, blah, blah, yada yada...I could be an Obama poster with a little work.

As I said, don't post until you figure out something to say.

Then you won't have to spend three days making Christine's life miserable whining about how many people have you on bozo.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: ... (#26)

So what gives you the right to chose Ferret's religion? Or attack his religion? I am curious .... and you are avoiding the question.

I could care less, just good to know...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FOH (#30) (Edited)

could care less, just good to know...

Then why did you bring it up in a disparaging manner? And you did do this.

LOL!! How quickly you dogmatic kooks turn to smoke when asked to explain your hick prejudices.

Next time, think before you attack. Then you won't have to back track in this silly manner.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ... (#28)

And if you had your way, so would everyone else .... by force of law.

Am I correct Mr. Contol Freak?

You're the only controlling one on 4um today it would appear...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FOH (#30)

Is your candidate above a hate filled bigot like yourself who goes around attacking the religion of others behind their backs ... as you just did above?

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: ... (#31)

Beautiful day outside, lots of pretty people out and about...


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ... (#33)

BTW, thanks for bumping this thread so much...much appreciated.


FOH  posted on  2008-05-06   10:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FOH (#32)

You're the only controlling one on 4um today it would appear...

There are Catholics posting here. Do you want their names so that you can rip their religion behind their backs too? Bigot.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FOH (#35)

Why don't you explain what the First Amendment means to a wingnutter like yourself and then tell us why Ferret's religion is all wrong and should be outlawed.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FOH (#35)

BTW, thanks for bumping this thread so much...much appreciated.

Yes, you're pushing a narrow minded, bigoted rapture monkey like yourself. This needs to be exposed. While I'm here, why don't you explain to us why Ferret's chosen religion is all wrong and why you have a right to rip it behind his back.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ... (#1)

We've already had one clearly non-Christian president, the Republican Unitarian William Howard Taft -- whom principled conservatives have long admired.

I wonder what the Religious Right thinks of him.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   10:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FOH (#35)

What gives you the right to rip Ferret's religion behind his back? When he is not here to defend it?

Answer the question bigot.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   10:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: aristeides (#39)

We've already had one clearly non-Christian president, the Republican Unitarian William Howard Taft -- whom principled conservatives have long admired.

Jefferson was a Deist, and not a Christian, and he was very clear about it. He even went so far as to rewrite the bible to highlight the morality and do away with the hocus pocus.

Franklin was a rational theist and he was also very clear about this. There are a great many quotes he left on the subject.

Washington would never answer a question on faith and was rumored to be a Deist with Jefferson.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   11:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: ... (#40)

Then there are the very doubtfully Christian Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, and the probably only nominally Christian George Washington and John Adams. Dwight Eisenhower's private religious beliefs may also be questioned.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   11:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FOH (#35)

You and your candidate are wonderful examples of the typical wingnut America hater.

If you could just get rid of that damn Constitution you could impose your religion on us by force of law. Correct?

And you wouldn't have to make underhanded, slimy, behind the back attacks on Ferret and his religion, you could just put him in jail for what he believes.

The founding fathers had you guys in mind when they wrote the First Amendment. You are the target, and that is why you don't like most of the rulings on it.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   11:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ... (#43)

Ferret and his religion,

Since when is the adoration of trees a religion? I'd call that a form of psychosis.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   11:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#44) (Edited)

Since when is the adoration of trees a religion?

The cross? That's just a symbol. Non-Christian religions have similar symbols. It's a universal thing.

(edit)

Sorry. I misread your post. You're talking about Ferret. I would guess that the tree serves a similar purpose as the cross in the Christian religion, but you would have to ask him to be sure.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   11:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: ... (#45)

The ancient Celts were big on tree worship. There are traces of it in Greek mythology and Roman religion.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   11:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ... (#43)

The founding fathers had you guys in mind when they wrote the First Amendment. You are the target, and that is why you don't like most of the rulings on it.

Substitute Teacher Says Wizardry Accusation Cost Him Job .

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   11:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: aristeides (#46)

Since when is the adoration of trees a religion?

Had an interesting experience with this last night. Bunch of people came over the night before last when a guy's wife graduated. Some of them like the Celtic/Druid stuff even though there isn't a lot of info on it.

We decided to have a Druidic meet last night with all the guys who were at the party. We took a bunch of wine and beer and lawn chairs and sat quietly in a grove by the river and got drunk in the dark with the big trees. Saw a coyote and two owls. Had a great time. Would recommend it to anyone.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   11:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: ... (#48)

The word "Druid" derives from a combination of two Indoeuropean roots, *deru and *weid. *deru means "tree", and is in fact cognate with English "tree". *weid refers to seeing or knowing, and is cognate with English "wit".

So tree worship is contained within the very word "Druid".

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   11:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: ... (#4)

Constitutional Freedom = The Freedom to let a bunch of ignorant busy bodies decide which fundamentalist Christian sect will control your life.

No thanks bubba. You guys gave us Bush and that's enough.

You obviously have not had the honor of listening to Pastor Chuck. While I don't follow his brand of religion he is a good man and does not believe in forcing his religious beliefs on anyone (although he is strongly opposed to convenience abortion - which is no problem for me as I am too). He is however a devout Constitutionalist, pro-liberty, anti-illegal immigration, a thorn in the side of the Zio-Lobby, highly critical of Israel's foul human rights record, and opposed to unnecessary wars. You should find out more about the people you attack before making yourself look ill or uninformed.

He is much more in the mold of a Ron Paul than any of the other NWO Sock Puppets that are being paraded around as potential fearless leaders.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-06   11:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: ... (#43)

You and your candidate are wonderful examples of the typical wingnut America hater.

If you could just get rid of that damn Constitution you could impose your religion on us by force of law. Correct?

And you wouldn't have to make underhanded, slimy, behind the back attacks on Ferret and his religion, you could just put him in jail for what he believes.

The founding fathers had you guys in mind when they wrote the First Amendment. You are the target, and that is why you don't like most of the rulings on it.

Again you just make yourself look foolish to anyone familiar with Pastor Baldwin.

The founding fathers were also opposed to any religious test for office.

Pastor Baldwin is strictly in favor of supporting the Constitution and your freedom to follow beliefs with which he disagrees - as long as you don't try to force them on others.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-06   11:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: FOH (#15)

I'm simply here to keep you busy, ...

Which is why anyone paying attention uses the filter for you and others like you.

angle  posted on  2008-05-06   12:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FOH (#34)

Beautiful day outside, lots of pretty people out and about...

Attaboy. As you have no doubt figured out he/she/it is trying to provoke you into making intemperate remarks. Excellent reply.

You might also want to refer to: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-06   12:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FOH (#0)

I don't know much about Chuck Baldwin. But isn't he anti-war, he wants to roll back the Patriot Act and he does not support Israel's persecution of Palestine. or am I wrong on these things?

sounds like a pretty good candidate to me. I don't think Obama can match that.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-06   12:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: FOH (#3)

"Beats having a wiccan in there..."

Of course you were going to ping me, right pinhead?


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   12:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FOH (#15)

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Keep Jesus Off My Penis


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   12:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Red Jones (#54)

I don't know much about Chuck Baldwin. But isn't he anti-war, he wants to roll back the Patriot Act and he does not support Israel's persecution of Palestine. or am I wrong on these things?

sounds like a pretty good candidate to me. I don't think Obama can match that.

The anti-Christian bigots are well on display.

It is interesting to watch all the hissy fits from people who insist upon following their own path BUT who display a degree of bigotry and prejudice that they accuse others of differing beliefs of harboring.

It is great fun because all you have to do is look at the, comments, the lack of a reasoned argument, and the obvious prejudice and the arguments, such as they are, fall apart like a cheap suit in a rain storm.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-06   12:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: aristeides (#39)

We've already had one clearly non-Christian president, the Republican Unitarian William Howard Taft -- whom principled conservatives have long admired.

I wonder what the Religious Right thinks of him.

Not only that, most of America's founders weren't exactly religious fundamentalists. Jefferson was a deist, Benjamin Franklin an agnostic, Adams and Maddison were secular Episcopalians. Not the sort of company John Hagee and his Bible Banging hordes would be comfortable around.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-06   12:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Original_Intent (#51)

Pastor Baldwin is strictly in favor of supporting the Constitution and your freedom to follow beliefs with which he disagrees - as long as you don't try to force them on others.

Now, if FOH and the rest would just accept this, and act accordingly, then I wouldn't have to waste all these posts pointing out what a hypocrite him and his candidate are.

Baldwin doesn't want to impose his religion on us, but he does have strong views on abortion, women's rights, other people's religions, the content of the school science program, the display of Christian symbols on public property and other fundie issues that he seeks to cram down our throats by force of law. Got it.

By the way, do you agree that FOH is correct in ripping and disparaging Ferret's religion behind Ferret's back? If so, who defines what a valid religion is?

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   12:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike, FOH (#56)

Keep Jesus Off My Penis

Then don't display it in public.

Sexual libertinism is not a path to happiness. It is just personal physical gratification, and your penis has no special powers. It's just a penis.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-06   12:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent (#60)

Sexual libertinism is not a path to happiness.

Too bad you can't point a gun at his head and kill him if he doesn't conform to your religious views on this subject. Huh?

Is this what they call "Conservative Freedom"? The freedom to let guys like you decide what is right and wrong for all the other adults?

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   12:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Red Jones (#54)

Baldwin is a Constitutionalist. No matter what his religious and social views (many of which I disagree with), he believes in limited government and knows that there's nothing in the Constitution to support Federally sponsored rule by any Church.

Those who lump him in with Hagee and Falwell don't know what they're talking about.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-06   12:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Original_Intent (#60) (Edited)

Sexual libertinism is not a path to happiness.

To be honest, I would much prefer a world filled with practitioners of the "live and let live" religion of Ferret to having your superstitions imposed on me morality police such as yourself.

The founding fathers were thinking of guys like you when they drafted the First Amendment. It's not so much to keep the state from persecuting religion, there wasn't a lot of this going on in the Colonies when the amendment was drafted. The amendment is designed to keep religion from taking over the government and persecuting the people. And that's why the fundie kooks are constantly at odds with it. Recall that Cotton Mather was a contemporary figure to Jefferson and Franklin.

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...  posted on  2008-05-06   12:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#60)

"Sexual libertinism is not a path to happiness. It is just personal physical gratification, and your penis has no special powers. It's just a penis."

No shit Sherlock. The video is primarily about the sort of religious intolerence FOH, the Christian Taliban Theocracy deals in.

Of course any idiot can see that and you are baiting, but you do at least deserve this pro forma reponse.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   12:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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