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Title: Obama Solidly Routs Clinton in N.C
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URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4795193&page=1
Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Jennifer Parker
Post Date: 2008-05-06 20:00:02 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 337
Comments: 27

As expected, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has solidly won the North Carolina primary, ABC News projects, while he and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, remain locked in a tight race in Indiana.

Nearly unanimous support among African-Americans, who accounted for a third of voters in North Carolina, lifted Obama to easy victory, according to preliminary exit poll results.

About 91 percent of African American voters in N.C. supported Obama. The Illinois senator also benefited from a surge of new voters; 18 percent in North Carolina said it was their first time voting in a primary, and they favored him by a vast 68-26 percent.

Meanwhile, it's too early to call the race in Indiana. The Hoosier State is seen as Clinton's best chance for victory, with demographics similar to Ohio and Pennsylvania -- states she has won in the past -- but Obama remains competitive in Indiana, a state that borders his homestate of Illinois.

The former first lady has planned a victory rally in an Indianapolis hotel ballroom tonight.

Political watchers argue a double victory for Obama tonight could sway undecided superdelegates and increase pressure on Clinton to step out of the race. The former first lady trails Obama in the delegate count, the popular vote, and in the number of states won.

"If Clinton doesn't win Indiana you wonder how she moves on after that," said Peri Arnold, a political science professor at Notre Dame University in South Bend, Ind.

However a win for Clinton will undoubtably fuel her argument that Obama's failure to reach white, blue-collar workers in states like Indiana could be a detriment in the general election fight against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain.

"Unless one of them is able to win both of these states, I think we're going to have a continuation of the status quo," said Bill Carrick, a Democratic strategist unaffiliated with either candidate.

Indiana Primary Potentially Decisive Battling to the end, the exhausted rivals urged North Carolina and Indiana voters to the polls Tuesday, each hoping to shake up a Democratic race that has gone on longer than anyone expected.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

One thing that Hilly did (or DIDN'T do) and I actually watched for that - she NEVER thanked her supporters in the states she lost. She almost never even mentioned the states she lost. I found that to be very bad manners. In fact, I'll say it, I found that to be disgusting.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

I'll say it, I found that to be disgusting.

How's about those big fat ankles that start at her knee caps and go straight into her shoes ?????

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-06   20:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

She's a disgusting, sub-human, reptilian creature.

Don't be alarmed, just aware.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-06   20:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#2)

I noticed her ingratitude during the super-Tuesday primaries because my wife mentioned it - she's into good manners. After that, there was a string of 10 Obama victories and, after every defeat, Hillary would sweet talk the NEXT state she was going to compete and NEVER mention the state that she was just losing or thank those who supported her there.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#2)

How's about those big fat ankles...

Then there's that factor.

Never to be ignored.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-06   20:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

Obama crushed Hillary in NC, but it seems right now Hillary won in Indiana easily.

Ron Paul, 7/8%.

State-by-State Votes
05/06/08 Presidential Primary / Caucus
May 06, 2008 - 08:15PM ET(i) = incumbent= winner= runoff

Indiana
President - Dem Primary
2103 of 5230 Precincts Reporting - 40%
NamePartyVotesVote %
Clinton, HillaryDem265,25956%
Obama, BarackDem208,24144%

President - GOP Primary
2049 of 5230 Precincts Reporting - 39%
NamePartyVotesVote %
McCain, JohnGOP135,16077%
Huckabee, MikeGOP18,72311%
Paul, RonGOP14,0468%
Romney, MittGOP8,6835%

North Carolina
Select a State--------------IndianaNorth Carolina
President - Dem Primary
221 of 2817 Precincts Reporting - 8%
NamePartyVotesVote %
Obama, BarackDem177,44965%
Clinton, HillaryDem89,39933%
No PreferenceDem2,8391%
Gravel, MikeDem1,3821%

President - GOP Primary
179 of 2817 Precincts Reporting - 6%
NamePartyVotesVote %
McCain, JohnGOP55,22779%
Huckabee, MikeGOP5,9208%
Paul, RonGOP5,0587%
No PreferenceGOP2,0723%
Keyes, AlanGOP1,6122%

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   20:29:03 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

Same black/white ratio as in PA.

Blacks voting for Obama = 92%

Whites voting for Obama = 7%

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   20:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Blacks voting for Obama = 92%

Whites voting for Obama = 7%

Please name the source and specify the context for the stat you provided. I hope it's not Rush or Hannity or the DEBKA file.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

MSNBC 15 mins ago.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   20:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

And what was the context? You do realize that the 7% white is impossible. It does seem to be true that Obama got 90% of blacks in both NC and Indiana but he can't win 65% in NC and 46% at this time in Indiana with 7% of the white vote. Indiana is some 96% White, I believe.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

I'm not following. The comment was related to NC and those numbers were mentioned. Why couldn't he win 9 out of 10 black votes in NC?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   20:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

He DID win 9 out of 10 black votes in NC. But you also stated that he only won 7% of the White votes there. This is mathematically impossible because the blacks in NC make up only one third of the Demo party and Obama has 63% of the overall vote at this time. If he won 7% of the White vote and 90% of the Blacks, then Obama would have:

29% from Blacks (90% of 33%) and
4% Whites (7% of 67%)
for a total of 33%. Which leaves 30% unacounted for.

See how absurd this is?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

The fact that Obama got over 91% of the black vote which was 33% of all voters in NC is the reason why. He only got aprox. 42% of the rest of the remaining vote.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   21:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, RickyJ (#12)

What RickyJ said, right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   21:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#0)

The most intelligent thing I've ever heard Hillary say.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-05-06   21:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what RickyJ said. The fact is that suggesting that Obama only got 7% of Whites is such an obvious BS, even a 3d grader could have done the math and figured out it was impossible.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#6)

IN now looks like a real squeaker.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   22:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: aristeides (#17) (Edited)

I expected Obama to win IN, I thought most of the Democrats I know were hip to Hillary, and also assumed they were representative of Democrats in same demographic bracket{s} throughout the state.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-06   22:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: aristeides (#17)

The CNN guy says that Obama wins if he takes 57% in Lake County.

Lake Cty. is counting 11,000 absentees and won't release anything until they're done. CNN expects it to be between 11 and Midnight EST.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#0)

Let's be clear, here - bitch is NEVER 'stepping' out of the 'race.'

He'll be 'vinced' and she'll move on to lose to McKook.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-06   22:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#20)

She is if she runs out of donated money. She's not going to pay off her nest eggs.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lodwick (#20)

How can I become a superdelegate lodwick?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-06   22:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#19)

The CNN guy says that Obama wins if he takes 57% in Lake County.

Lake Cty. is counting 11,000 absentees and won't release anything until they're done. CNN expects it to be between 11 and Midnight EST.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 84% Reporting

1 Clinton 547,525 52%

2 Obama 504,959 48%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   22:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#23)

I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   22:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

FYI - in INDIANA, Obama got 39% of White babes, according to CNN.

Your Obama getting 7% of White men is incorrect.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#19)

The CNN guy says that Obama wins if he takes 57% in Lake County.

The racial makeup of the county is 80.11% White, 6.94% Black

Which means no chance dude. There are not that many white guilters out there.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   23:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: RickyJ (#26) (Edited)

We find out soon. We should have the counts in a few minutes. Hilly is ahead by some 40,000 now.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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