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Title: Hillary's Political Funeral?
Source: CNN
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Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-06 20:00:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 1165
Comments: 82

I am watching the Indiana/Carolina primaries returns. Hilly is leading in Indiana by some 14% and CNN already gave Carolina to Obama and they don't expect Hilly to do a double-digit in Indiana. All the big heads, including Hilly backers, it seems to me, are discussing Hilly as a has-been. Or, at least, that seems to be the mood.

If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC, she may turn into the big heads' laughing stock if she keeps insisting that she's in for the win.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Regardless of the winner, America loses.

Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-06   20:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage (#1)

Regardless of the winner, America loses.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   20:10:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC,

You mean squeak by in Indiana. The math has been against her for quite some time. Even splitting delegates evenly in these 2 states right now is a loss for her, and it seems she won't even do that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   20:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Thank you. That's what I meant. The CNN's may know something. Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted. Even Loudobbs who was as much a Hillarist as anyone else seemed subdued. Begala, a Hillarist had only good things to say about Obama and looks relaxed. Not one person representing Hillary's campaign showed up yet to discuss the returns.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#0)

Donna Brazille all but announced her Obama support on CNN. She said that she's 'undeclared' not 'undecided'. Then she said that she wants to 'unify' her party which is clearly code word to 'screw Hillary'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)

Thank you. That's what I meant. The CNN's may know something. Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.

Maybe the urban precincts were not counted previously and they are starting to come in. A 56/44 % would be pretty impressive, but 52/48 is much different.

Consider also the delegate count for NC and IN. NC has 115 and IN has 72. Factor that in and it should make Hillary's train wreck pretty much official.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   21:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)

Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 70% Reporting

1 Clinton 450,657 53%

2 Obama 403,343 47%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   21:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TwentyTwelve (#7)

They are now showing NC as a 59/39 split. Only 1/3 of precincts have reported there too...

I guess we should just tune in tomorrow and see what the numbers say.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   21:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

The most intelligent thing Hillary Clinton has ever said.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-05-06   21:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)

Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 70% Reporting

1 Clinton 473,040 52%

2 Obama 429,093 48%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   21:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)

Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 74% Reporting

1 Clinton 475,122 51%

2 Obama 439,456 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   21:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)

Still no word from Hilly's camp. Maybe she quits.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   21:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)

Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   21:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mirage (#1)

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon.
Going to the candidate's debate.
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Every way you look at this you lose.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-06   22:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: aristeides (#13)

Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 85% Reporting

1 Clinton 552,649 51%

2 Obama 523,523 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   22:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)

I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   22:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: DeaconBenjamin (#14)

Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-06   22:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: aristeides (#16)

I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.

Bloomington, Indiana

Monroe County

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   22:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: aristeides (#16)

Hillary is declaring victory (live) on MSNBC in Indiana.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-06   22:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

It's funny, because maybe she lost.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

OMG - she's playing softie now. She says she loves Obama. Maybe she's running for VP now.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)

She's got W.C. Fields and Howdy Doody...okay, Bill and Chelsea flanked behind her right shoulder in the live footage.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-06   22:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

If she'd waited any longer to make her victory speech, her TV audience would all have gone to bed.

Is it true that once more she failed to congratulate Obama for his victory (in NC this time)?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   22:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#22)

What I didn't get was the 'invisible' diatribe.

She says that people feel invisible when they pay $70 to fill up the tank or can't afford the medical bill. How's that? Did someone did a survey? I never feel invisible when I pay for gas.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: aristeides (#23)

Actually she did and, to my surprise, she did thank her supporters in NC. She just did. She's playing kitten now. She's like 'come on, come play with me and... I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!!!"

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)

She says that people feel invisible when they pay $70 to fill up the tank

It would certainly make driving off without paying a lot easier.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2008-05-06   22:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: orangedog (#26)

Haven't thought of that. My wife's girlfriend's kid thought he was invisible and tried to walk out of Walmart with a game he forgot to pay for. But... he wasn't.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#17)

Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-06   23:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)

Apparently the mayor of Gary has just said that there will be enough votes in his county to put Obama over the top in IN.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: aristeides (#29)

That's just about all that's left to count.

According to the CNN interactive map, Monroe has some votes to count but it's just a few thousands - it's solidly Obama. A couple more counties, East of Lake are Hillary's but they are in the high 80%.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: aristeides (#29)

That would be sweet. I wish I could believe hizzoner.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-06   23:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#30)

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 88% Reporting

1 Clinton 574,643 52%

2 Obama 536,332 48%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   23:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fred Mertz (#31) (Edited)

Hilly''s lead now down to 19,000. He got 75% out of the 28% reported.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)

That just cut Hillary's lead in half. And there's still 9% left to report.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)

Hilly''s lead now down to 19,000. He got 75% out of the 28% reported.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 91% Reporting

1 Clinton 584,113 51%

2 Obama 564,323 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   23:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: aristeides (#34)

The county East of Lake is solid Hillary and they only reported 81%. The counts from Lake are all Gary. CNN says that the South portion of the county is more rural. It's not clear if all of Gary reported.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#36)

I heard only half of Gary has so far reported.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TwentyTwelve (#35)

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   23:56:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#37)

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...olitics/main4073609.shtml

(CBS/AP) CBS News projects that Hillary Rodham Clinton will win the Indiana Democratic primary and Barack Obama will win in North Carolina.

Clinton pulled off an Indiana win in what was a virtual must-win Midwestern state, but her margin of victory appears to be small. With 88 percent of the votes being reported in the state, she was leading Obama 52 percent to 48 percent.

At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."

"And thanks to you, it's full speed to the White House," she said to the cheering crowd.

CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reports Clinton will talk with her campaign brain trust on Wednesday to decide what to do next.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   0:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#37)

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 92% Reporting

1 Clinton 588,823 51%

2 Obama 568,156 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   0:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)

CBS projected a Hillary victory in IN just after I left work, around 8 o'clock or earlier. They'll be reluctant to take that back.

Especially when Hillary may well still pull it out.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   0:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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