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Title: Hillary's Political Funeral?
Source: CNN
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-06 20:00:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 1187
Comments: 82

I am watching the Indiana/Carolina primaries returns. Hilly is leading in Indiana by some 14% and CNN already gave Carolina to Obama and they don't expect Hilly to do a double-digit in Indiana. All the big heads, including Hilly backers, it seems to me, are discussing Hilly as a has-been. Or, at least, that seems to be the mood.

If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC, she may turn into the big heads' laughing stock if she keeps insisting that she's in for the win.

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#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC,

You mean squeak by in Indiana. The math has been against her for quite some time. Even splitting delegates evenly in these 2 states right now is a loss for her, and it seems she won't even do that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-06   20:35:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Thank you. That's what I meant. The CNN's may know something. Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted. Even Loudobbs who was as much a Hillarist as anyone else seemed subdued. Begala, a Hillarist had only good things to say about Obama and looks relaxed. Not one person representing Hillary's campaign showed up yet to discuss the returns.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   20:41:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)

Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 74% Reporting

1 Clinton 475,122 51%

2 Obama 439,456 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   21:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)

Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   21:59:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: aristeides (#13)

Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 85% Reporting

1 Clinton 552,649 51%

2 Obama 523,523 49%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-06   22:38:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)

I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   22:39:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: aristeides (#16)

Hillary is declaring victory (live) on MSNBC in Indiana.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-06   22:44:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

It's funny, because maybe she lost.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   22:46:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)

Apparently the mayor of Gary has just said that there will be enough votes in his county to put Obama over the top in IN.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:39:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: aristeides (#29)

That would be sweet. I wish I could believe hizzoner.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-06   23:43:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fred Mertz (#31) (Edited)

Hilly''s lead now down to 19,000. He got 75% out of the 28% reported.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)

That just cut Hillary's lead in half. And there's still 9% left to report.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:49:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: aristeides (#34)

The county East of Lake is solid Hillary and they only reported 81%. The counts from Lake are all Gary. CNN says that the South portion of the county is more rural. It's not clear if all of Gary reported.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-06   23:55:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#36)

I heard only half of Gary has so far reported.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-06   23:56:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#37)

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...olitics/main4073609.shtml

(CBS/AP) CBS News projects that Hillary Rodham Clinton will win the Indiana Democratic primary and Barack Obama will win in North Carolina.

Clinton pulled off an Indiana win in what was a virtual must-win Midwestern state, but her margin of victory appears to be small. With 88 percent of the votes being reported in the state, she was leading Obama 52 percent to 48 percent.

At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."

"And thanks to you, it's full speed to the White House," she said to the cheering crowd.

CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reports Clinton will talk with her campaign brain trust on Wednesday to decide what to do next.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   0:10:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)

At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."

This kind of delusion should surely show she has a problem.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-07   0:16:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pinguinite (#43)

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 99% Reporting

1 Clinton 637,389 51% 32 Delegates

2 Obama 615,370 49% 29 Delegates

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   1:11:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TwentyTwelve (#50)

That's it then. Between 92 & 95% reporting she lost a lot of ground, but then between 95 & 99% she got all that back and *more* to win by over 22K votes!

I guess we could say that in that final stretch she really pulled an upset of sorts. Wouldn't you agree, 20? I'm sure that's how Hillary will see it and call it, anyway. An upset victory!

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-07   1:18:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pinguinite (#51)

I guess we could say that in that final stretch she really pulled an upset of sorts. Wouldn't you agree, 20? I'm sure that's how Hillary will see it and call it, anyway. An upset victory!

Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08

Delegates: 85

County Results --- 99% Reporting

1 Clinton 638,274 51% 37 Delegates

2 Obama 615,862 49% 33 Delegates

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   1:33:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TwentyTwelve, Pinguinite (#54)

County Results --- 99% Reporting

Gone unnoticed: McCain took 78% in Indiana and 74% in N. Carolina. That's not great for a presumptive nominee running essentially unopposed.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-07   1:49:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: nolu_chan (#61)

Gone unnoticed: McCain took 78% in Indiana and 74% in N. Carolina. That's not great for a presumptive nominee running essentially unopposed.

Most Republicans will hold their nose and vote for McCain in the fall to stop national health care. I won't, but I completely understand what they are doing.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-07   1:52:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: RickyJ (#62)

My deepest congradulations to the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-07   2:51:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#66)

My deepest congratulations to the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.

That can only happen if McCain lets it happen by not bringing out the dirt on him with Ayers. McCain may take a dive like Bob Dole, but that is yet to be seen. Somehow when this is all over I think Hillary will be the President one way or the other. Either by inheriting it when Obama has an "accident", or by beating McCain.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-07   4:26:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: RickyJ (#69)

Ricky, I believe that you 'predicted' that Obama will be out by the end of this month. Are you still predicting that?

I am asking because you advised me to 'watch and learn' and I agreed that I will be learning if that happened but I also suggested that you learn a thing or 2 if you turn out to be wrong.

So... what do you say? What do you say?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   7:02:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom (#71) (Edited)

Speaking of predictions, I wonder what will happen to all the predictions that Hillary would get the presidential nomination, and Obama would have to settle for the VP nomination.

Betcha Cynicom never admits he was wrong.

Just like Hillary never admits that she's wrong. Maybe I finally understand why he said he was going to vote for her.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   11:56:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: aristeides (#75)

Speaking of predictions, I wonder what will happen to all the predictions that Hillary would get the presidential nomination, and Obama would have to settle for the VP nomination.

Betcha Cynicom never admits he was wrong.

The Establishment still hasn't proven yet that they are abandoning Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush...not that Bush-Clinton-Bush-McObama will be any different mind you.

FOH  posted on  2008-05-07   11:58:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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