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Title: Hillary's Political Funeral?
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Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-06 20:00:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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I am watching the Indiana/Carolina primaries returns. Hilly is leading in Indiana by some 14% and CNN already gave Carolina to Obama and they don't expect Hilly to do a double-digit in Indiana. All the big heads, including Hilly backers, it seems to me, are discussing Hilly as a has-been. Or, at least, that seems to be the mood. If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC, she may turn into the big heads' laughing stock if she keeps insisting that she's in for the win.
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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
Regardless of the winner, America loses.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
You mean squeak by in Indiana. The math has been against her for quite some time. Even splitting delegates evenly in these 2 states right now is a loss for her, and it seems she won't even do that.
Thank you. That's what I meant. The CNN's may know something. Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted. Even Loudobbs who was as much a Hillarist as anyone else seemed subdued. Begala, a Hillarist had only good things to say about Obama and looks relaxed. Not one person representing Hillary's campaign showed up yet to discuss the returns.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Donna Brazille all but announced her Obama support on CNN. She said that she's 'undeclared' not 'undecided'. Then she said that she wants to 'unify' her party which is clearly code word to 'screw Hillary'.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Maybe the urban precincts were not counted previously and they are starting to come in. A 56/44 % would be pretty impressive, but 52/48 is much different. Consider also the delegate count for NC and IN. NC has 115 and IN has 72. Factor that in and it should make Hillary's train wreck pretty much official.
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 70% Reporting 1 Clinton 450,657 53% 2 Obama 403,343 47%
They are now showing NC as a 59/39 split. Only 1/3 of precincts have reported there too... I guess we should just tune in tomorrow and see what the numbers say.
The most intelligent thing Hillary Clinton has ever said.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 70% Reporting 1 Clinton 473,040 52% 2 Obama 429,093 48%
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 74% Reporting 1 Clinton 475,122 51% 2 Obama 439,456 49%
Still no word from Hilly's camp. Maybe she quits.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon. The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 85% Reporting 1 Clinton 552,649 51% 2 Obama 523,523 49%
I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Bloomington, Indiana Monroe County
Hillary is declaring victory (live) on MSNBC in Indiana.
It's funny, because maybe she lost.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
OMG - she's playing softie now. She says she loves Obama. Maybe she's running for VP now.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
She's got W.C. Fields and Howdy Doody...okay, Bill and Chelsea flanked behind her right shoulder in the live footage.
If she'd waited any longer to make her victory speech, her TV audience would all have gone to bed. Is it true that once more she failed to congratulate Obama for his victory (in NC this time)?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
What I didn't get was the 'invisible' diatribe. She says that people feel invisible when they pay $70 to fill up the tank or can't afford the medical bill. How's that? Did someone did a survey? I never feel invisible when I pay for gas.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Actually she did and, to my surprise, she did thank her supporters in NC. She just did. She's playing kitten now. She's like 'come on, come play with me and... I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!!!"
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
It would certainly make driving off without paying a lot easier.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
Haven't thought of that. My wife's girlfriend's kid thought he was invisible and tried to walk out of Walmart with a game he forgot to pay for. But... he wasn't.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Apparently the mayor of Gary has just said that there will be enough votes in his county to put Obama over the top in IN.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That's just about all that's left to count. According to the CNN interactive map, Monroe has some votes to count but it's just a few thousands - it's solidly Obama. A couple more counties, East of Lake are Hillary's but they are in the high 80%.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
That would be sweet. I wish I could believe hizzoner.
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 88% Reporting 1 Clinton 574,643 52% 2 Obama 536,332 48%
Hilly''s lead now down to 19,000. He got 75% out of the 28% reported.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
That just cut Hillary's lead in half. And there's still 9% left to report.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 91% Reporting 1 Clinton 584,113 51% 2 Obama 564,323 49%
The county East of Lake is solid Hillary and they only reported 81%. The counts from Lake are all Gary. CNN says that the South portion of the county is more rural. It's not clear if all of Gary reported.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I heard only half of Gary has so far reported.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...olitics/main4073609.shtml (CBS/AP) CBS News projects that Hillary Rodham Clinton will win the Indiana Democratic primary and Barack Obama will win in North Carolina. Clinton pulled off an Indiana win in what was a virtual must-win Midwestern state, but her margin of victory appears to be small. With 88 percent of the votes being reported in the state, she was leading Obama 52 percent to 48 percent. At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie." "And thanks to you, it's full speed to the White House," she said to the cheering crowd. CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reports Clinton will talk with her campaign brain trust on Wednesday to decide what to do next.
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 92% Reporting 1 Clinton 588,823 51% 2 Obama 568,156 49%
CBS projected a Hillary victory in IN just after I left work, around 8 o'clock or earlier. They'll be reluctant to take that back. Especially when Hillary may well still pull it out.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Taaaa Taaaa Ta-da Ta-da-da-da-da-da-da.... How about this: she keeps going for a few more days so she can try to raise some $$$. Remember, she did lend $5 million to her campaign.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
This kind of delusion should surely show she has a problem.
How about this: she keeps going for a few more days so she can try to raise some $$$. Remember, she did lend $5 million to her campaign. This kind of delusion should surely show she has a problem. Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 95% Reporting 1 Clinton 606,497 51% 2 Obama 589,888 49%
At that rate, Hill will win IN by about 12K votes.
They are still waiting for the results from Union County. Union County is a county located in the U.S. state of Indiana. As of 2000, the population is 7,349. The county seat is Liberty.
Indiana's Lake County has tradition of late vote tallies
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 Clinton 637,389 51% 32 Delegates 2 Obama 615,370 49% 29 Delegates
That's it then. Between 92 & 95% reporting she lost a lot of ground, but then between 95 & 99% she got all that back and *more* to win by over 22K votes! I guess we could say that in that final stretch she really pulled an upset of sorts. Wouldn't you agree, 20? I'm sure that's how Hillary will see it and call it, anyway. An upset victory!
I agree.
"And thanks to you, it's full speed to the White House," she said to the cheering crowd. I wouldn't say it broke a tie, but winning a state that is neighboring Obama's home state is an accomplishment.
God is always good!
Indiana Democratic Primary 6-May-08 Delegates: 85 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 Clinton 638,274 51% 37 Delegates 2 Obama 615,862 49% 33 Delegates
To quote the White Sox announcer, changes genders, she gone. Obama, as I told you long ago, will be our next president. And he will be a good one. You know, suck on that.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Those super delegates are going to decide this thing. They will piss off a lot of racists if they don't choose Obama.
God is always good!
You are like a kid that has never grown up. You still believe the crap you were taught by your liberal teachers in school. That is a sign of a low IQ.
God is always good!
Who will Obama choose as his VP?
It's not over yet. Stay tuned.
If he is the nominee and doesn't choose Hillary, he will lose to McCain. Hillary supporters carry huge grudges around.
God is always good!
Gone unnoticed: McCain took 78% in Indiana and 74% in N. Carolina. That's not great for a presumptive nominee running essentially unopposed.
Most Republicans will hold their nose and vote for McCain in the fall to stop national health care. I won't, but I completely understand what they are doing.
God is always good!
Most Republicans will hold their nose and vote for McCain in the fall to stop national health care. I won't, but I completely understand what they are doing. 26% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS AGAINST MCCAIN IN NORTH CAROLINA... Most Pubs and Dems will vote their party. The Independents include a large number of former Pubs who are disaffected with Bush. Few of those really want a far left Dem now any more than they wanted Kerry. They are angry at Bush and anger usually wins out, but there will be a lot of nose holding whichever way they go. The economy will remain the dominant topic. The war will also remain a major topic. With McCain talking about 100 years in Iraq, OPEC may strive for $5 a gallon gas by election day.
My deepest congradulations to the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.
Buh bye Hil, don't go away mad, just go away.
It will pbly be a bit. Next up are WV & KY where she can win. In the meantime she can still raise some funds from the faithful.
That can only happen if McCain lets it happen by not bringing out the dirt on him with Ayers. McCain may take a dive like Bob Dole, but that is yet to be seen. Somehow when this is all over I think Hillary will be the President one way or the other. Either by inheriting it when Obama has an "accident", or by beating McCain.
God is always good!
McCain is the sacrificial lamb. The Repugs are out this year, and they are keeping the powder dry of all future contenders. They of course hope four years of President Obama will give them an opening to hope memory of Bush's horrible presidency has dimmed enough to get someone in. Won't happen though. Obama is going to be an inspiring and effective president. I also changed my mind and changed my registration. Until after I vote for Barack Obama in the Oregon primary, I am a Democrat once more. But I will change back to my Pacific Green party registration very soon afterward. I don't think I will ever feel like a Democrat ever again after Clinton compelled me to change my registration after his very Moderate Republican-like administration. I am also canvassing and doing other work in the local Obama campaign.
Ricky, I believe that you 'predicted' that Obama will be out by the end of this month. Are you still predicting that? I am asking because you advised me to 'watch and learn' and I agreed that I will be learning if that happened but I also suggested that you learn a thing or 2 if you turn out to be wrong. So... what do you say? What do you say?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
She "loaned" herself a few more mil this morning. TV commentators speculated last night that part of the deal she will cut with Obama for her to drop out will be for Obama to pay off her campaign debt. (seriously) Isn't that classic Clinton?
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Speaking of predictions, I wonder what will happen to all the predictions that Hillary would get the presidential nomination, and Obama would have to settle for the VP nomination. Betcha Cynicom never admits he was wrong. Just like Hillary never admits that she's wrong. Maybe I finally understand why he said he was going to vote for her.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Betcha Cynicom never admits he was wrong. The Establishment still hasn't proven yet that they are abandoning Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush...not that Bush-Clinton-Bush-McObama will be any different mind you.
I usually don't have much use for Obama, but seeing the end of Hillary's Presidential hopes does give me a lot of satisfaction. That hag acted as though she was entitled to the White House since 1993, and has acted like she was in waiting for coronation ever since. Barring a landslide in her favor in every other state or party manipulation, I'm glad that it's finally over for her.
Just like Hillary never admits that she's wrong. Maybe I finally understand why he said he was going to vote for her. RickyJ predicted that Obama will drop out before the end of the month. We've been getting weekly predictions of imminent attacks on Iran. Cheney predicts that Iran will try to nuke Israel next year.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
TV commentators speculated last night that part of the deal she will cut with Obama for her to drop out will be for Obama to pay off her campaign debt. (seriously) I was reading she punched another $6.4 mil into her campaign. I don't think Obama can use his campaign funds for her debt, but perhaps he could agree to not object if Party funds were used. Let her fight on and pay her own bills.
Hillary! in 2012. The audacity of hope.
Some things are just not built for things to happen like some people want them to happen. Hil's a pill, smells like a urinal mint, is as useful as naval lint. I won't miss this Ms.
Ricky's 'J' must be dipped in PCP. He should stick to smoking the kind without the white drug blind.
#2. To: mirage (#1)
Regardless of the winner, America loses.
#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
If Hilly loses Carolina big and she squeaks a win in NC,
#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)
#5. To: All (#0)
#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)
Thank you. That's what I meant. The CNN's may know something. Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.
#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)
Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.
#8. To: TwentyTwelve (#7)
#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)
Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.
#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite (#4)
Her lead in Indiana is down to 8% now, with 52% of the ballots counted.
#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)
#14. To: mirage (#1)
Going to the candidate's debate.
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Every way you look at this you lose.
#15. To: aristeides (#13)
Lake County (Gary, Obama stronghold) still not reporting.
#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)
#17. To: DeaconBenjamin (#14)
Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes
#18. To: aristeides (#16)
I just heard on the radio that the county that Indiana University is in has been going 2-1 for Obama, and has only reported 43% of its votes.
#19. To: aristeides (#16)
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
#21. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
#25. To: aristeides (#23)
#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)
She says that people feel invisible when they pay $70 to fill up the tank
#27. To: orangedog (#26)
#28. To: Dakmar (#17)
#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
#30. To: aristeides (#29)
#31. To: aristeides (#29)
#32. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#30)
#33. To: Fred Mertz (#31)
(Edited)
#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)
#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)
Hilly''s lead now down to 19,000. He got 75% out of the 28% reported.
#36. To: aristeides (#34)
#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#36)
#38. To: TwentyTwelve (#35)
#39. To: aristeides (#37)
#40. To: aristeides (#37)
#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)
#42. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)
CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reports Clinton will talk with her campaign brain trust on Wednesday to decide what to do next.
#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)
At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."
#44. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)
Taaaa Taaaa Ta-da Ta-da-da-da-da-da-da....
#45. To: Pinguinite (#43)
At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."
#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
It's funny, because maybe she lost.
#47. To: TwentyTwelve (#46)
#48. To: Pinguinite (#47)
At that rate, Hill will win IN by about 12K votes.
#49. To: Pinguinite (#47)
#50. To: Pinguinite (#43)
#51. To: TwentyTwelve (#50)
#52. To: Pinguinite (#51)
I guess we could say that in that final stretch she really pulled an upset of sorts. Wouldn't you agree, 20? I'm sure that's how Hillary will see it and call it, anyway. An upset victory!
#53. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)
At a rally in Indianapolis, Clinton said that her Indiana victory had "broken the tie."
#54. To: Pinguinite (#51)
I guess we could say that in that final stretch she really pulled an upset of sorts. Wouldn't you agree, 20? I'm sure that's how Hillary will see it and call it, anyway. An upset victory!
#55. To: TwentyTwelve (#52)
#56. To: TwentyTwelve (#50)
#57. To: Mekons4 (#55)
#58. To: Mekons4 (#55)
To quote the White Sox announcer, changes genders, she gone. Obama, as I told you long ago, will be our next president. And he will be a good one. You know, suck on that.
#59. To: RickyJ (#56)
Those super delegates are going to decide this thing. They will piss off a lot of racists if they don't choose Obama.
#60. To: TwentyTwelve (#58)
(Edited)
Who will Obama choose as his VP?
#61. To: TwentyTwelve, Pinguinite (#54)
County Results --- 99% Reporting
#62. To: nolu_chan (#61)
Gone unnoticed: McCain took 78% in Indiana and 74% in N. Carolina. That's not great for a presumptive nominee running essentially unopposed.
#63. To: RickyJ, nolu_chan (#62)
Gone unnoticed: McCain took 78% in Indiana and 74% in N. Carolina. That's not great for a presumptive nominee running essentially unopposed.
#64. To: RickyJ (#62)
Most Republicans will hold their nose and vote for McCain in the fall to stop national health care
#65. To: RickyJ, All (#56)
#66. To: RickyJ (#62)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#67. To: Pinguinite (#3)
"You mean squeak by in Indiana. The math has been against her for quite some time. Even splitting delegates evenly in these 2 states right now is a loss for her, and it seems she won't even do that."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#68. To: Ferret Mike, Pinguinite (#67)
Buh bye Hil, don't go away mad, just go away.
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#66)
My deepest congratulations to the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.
#70. To: RickyJ (#69)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#71. To: RickyJ (#69)
#72. To: Ferret Mike (#67)
Buh bye Hil, don't go away mad, just go away.
#73. To: Ferret Mike (#67)
Buh bye Hil, don't go away mad, just go away.
#74. To: nolu_chan (#68)
In the meantime she can still raise some funds from the faithful.
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom (#71)
(Edited)
#76. To: aristeides (#75)
Speaking of predictions, I wonder what will happen to all the predictions that Hillary would get the presidential nomination, and Obama would have to settle for the VP nomination.
#77. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#78. To: aristeides (#75)
Betcha Cynicom never admits he was wrong.
#79. To: iconoclast (#74)
She "loaned" herself a few more mil this morning.
#80. To: aristeides (#75)
Speaking of predictions, I wonder what will happen to all the predictions that Hillary would get the presidential nomination, and Obama would have to settle for the VP nomination.
#81. To: TwentyTwelve (#73)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#82. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, RickJ (#78)
"RickyJ predicted that Obama will drop out before the end of the month. We've been getting weekly predictions of imminent attacks on Iran. Cheney predicts that Iran will try to nuke Israel next year.
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
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