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Title: Is Worse Better? Some Surprising White Support For Obama
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Published: May 6, 2008
Author: Peter Bradley [no relation to Buddy]
Post Date: 2008-05-06 22:40:04 by Tauzero
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By Peter Bradley If you pay a visit to Barack Obama's official campaign website, you will find a host of subgroups in the "People" section boosting his candidacy. The man who will help us overcome race has separate categories for Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, Latinos, First Americans (he is not talking about the ancestors of Kennewick Man) and, of course, African Americans. If you are white and racist enough to notice you are not part of Obama's rainbow, don't worry. You can still join groups for students, women, veterans or the LGBT crowd. If you are just what Obama notoriously called a "typical white person" who is not part of these groups, then you are out of luck. But maybe not for much longer. A significant number of white race activists—they often call themselves "white nationalists", analogous to black nationalists, Hispanic nationalists or Zionists and not the same thing as white supremacists—are supporting an Obama presidency as the lesser of two evils and, possibly, the catalyst for a wake up call for white America. Newhouse News reporter Jonathan Tilove covered the 2008 American Renaissance conference in late February and quoted a number of whites who were ready to support the Senator from Illinois. "We are facing the election of Barack Obama, or, even worse, McCain," said Sam Dickson, Atlanta attorney and longtime racial activist during his closing speech. [A View Of Obama From The Trenches Of White Nationalism, February 27, 2008) ] Maryland attorney Howard Fezell wondered if black racial loyalty to Obama could make some whites wonder why they can't do the same. "Only white voters are expected to look beyond race," he said. Even Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, praised Obama's campaign strategy and stated that he does not know who he will vote for in November. Paul Gottfried, who also spoke at the event, speculated that most of the over 250 people in attendance would most likely support Obama over McCain. "Better a black who is honest about who he is than a conservative who is really delivering the liberal agenda," declared Gottfried. There seem to be three main reasons for this unexpected support for Obama's candidacy. The Republican nominee recently told a black audience that his vote against the MLK holiday was the greatest mistake of his political career. He equates immigration reform with "bigotry." As I write this, McCain is promising a renewed "War on Poverty" and criticizing an ad by North Carolina Republicans that draws attention to the race-baiting comments of Obama's spiritual mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Larry Auster of the mildly white-nationalist View from the Right blog writes: "at least the Democratic president, as he welcomes Al Sharpton to the White House, won't be giving us lectures on 'true conservatism.'" Auster views McCain as a virtual death sentence for conservatism in America. If we must have race quotas and amnesties, at least a President Obama would get us out of a costly war. McCain could well get us into an even deadlier conflict with Iran. As Jared Taylor told Jonathan Tilove, "I think many smarter, far-thinking blacks are going to be worried that any time they start talking about discrimination, certainly institutional racism, people are going to say, 'Hey, look, you've got a black president for heaven's sake.'" TakiMag's Christopher Roach made the point that an Obama presidency could make whites more racially aware even more bluntly: "a political equivalent of the O.J. Trial for four years might be the right catalyst for this sort of 'consciousness raising.'" The Obama record on race is eye-opening for those who will look. The racialism of his autobiography, the anti-white comments of his wife and of his spiritual mentor, his attendance at Louis Farrakhan's Million Man March, his support for the Jena Six race attackers, his insulting "race speech" and slurs about "typical whites" and "bitter" people in rural America all point to a man who has more in common with Al Sharpton than Ward Connerly. Marcus Epstein agrees on the potential for a white backlash. "We can be sure that a president Obama will be push for the same anti-white policies of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, while posing as a post-racial unifier," he says. "The question is whether or not the public will buy that facade." As director of Pat Buchanan's American Cause, Epstein receives quite a bit of feedback from blacks on the true meaning of an Obama presidency. One of the more printable responses came from a black man who told him: "You [presumably whites] have had 100 [sic]presidents, why can’t we have one?" The whites who support Obama tend to be young, affluent liberals who truly believe the Obama campaign is about racial unity. But blacks are not supporting Obama so they can hold hands and sing Dave Matthews songs with rich white kids from the suburbs (I recently saw a news clip of a free Dave Matthews concert given in support of Obama and literally every face in the crowd was white). Clearly these two main groups of Obama supporters are on a collision course. It is not hard to predict which race is in for a rude awakening. Personally, I plan to vote for the Constitution Party which just nominated Chuck Baldwin as its presidential candidate. Baldwin is an immigration patriot and a strong conservative on all issues. A vote for him will send a clear message to the GOP that the McCain-Bush type of Republican Party is unacceptable and unworthy of support. But an Obama presidency at least offers the possibility of an energized right wing movement in which paleos and whites of the Jared Taylor-Sam Francis school can find a home. Just as forced integration and busing woke up many northern white ethnics in the 1960s and 70s, a black race-driven president who uses his office to excuse black rioters and defend black gangs who attack white kids will be a real eye-opener for many a nice white liberal—to say nothing of the slumbering "conservative" masses.
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#1. To: Tauzero (#0)
A good many of these people probably either have already voted for Obama or will vote for him in November. I wonder if our resident Obamaphobes consider even these people "white guilters".
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
this isn't what you'd call a positive endorsement of Obama
I see one advantage with Obama on the border issue. Both McCain and Obama are weak on the border issue and both the Republicans and the Democrats have their reasons for wanting a flood of illegals. The difference I see is that a majority of the Republicans and half the Democrats would support McCain on the amnesty issue. Just like they supported Bush on Bush's multiple amnesty bills. Hence, McCain can easily get an amnesty bill through when he is President. But if Obama proposes an amnesty bill, the Republicans will go into full attack mode. Not only is there a good chance that they would stop the amnesty bill, but they would probably damage Obama in the process. And Obama knows this. This makes the amnesty issue radioactive for Obama. Obama will probably avoid it. Hence, although both Obama and McCain are weak on amnesty, I think Obama is the less likely to push through an amnesty bill. The one problem I see is the Republicans using the issue as a weapon against Obama. Setting up a bill so that Obama has to oppose it, and alienate Hispanics, or sign it and alienate middle America. I think this would be a dangerous game.
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We need and I support a strong amnesty bill, and I expect to see one passed within the next couple of years.
We don't need the 80 million people the amnesty bill will give us.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
We need
and I support an immediate national tax strike by every working American.
Socialism, and its related programs, can no longer be supported.
So you admit it's possible to support (and even vote for) Obama without being a "white guilter"?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Not every Marxist is a white guilter...that's for sure. I do wonder though if every white guilter is a Marxist.
sure. i have never said that any white person who supports obama is a white guilter. as a matter of fact, the concept of white guilt is new to me. i had not been aware of Shelby Steele and his writings about it until now. this has been educative for me.
It is not hard to predict which race is in for a rude awakening. [snip]. Just as forced integration and busing woke up many northern white ethnics in the 1960s and 70s, a black race-driven president who uses his office to excuse black rioters and defend black gangs who attack white kids will be a real eye-opener for many a nice white liberal—to say nothing of the slumbering "conservative" masses. ~ring ring~~ ~~ring ring~~ What the? Who the hell is calling me at 3 a.m.? Hello? El Presidente? A civil war has broken out in LA, the police are not permitted to go in, we've alerted the National Guard to mobilize. What's going on? Well sir, the plan. Ohhhhhhh.. That. hehehe.. Stand down. Get some sleep, you work too hard. Nite nite.
That would be nice Jethro but we have so many people who are still willing to support and vote for the critters in power and their support changes from one establishment candidate to another quicker than the weather changes. Their attention span isn't long enough to absorb anything but a 30 second sounddbite.They only believe what they want to and can't determine the truth from lying propaganda and many repeat those lying soundbites over and over to themselves until they believe them to be the gospel truth. We are up the river.
I've met a lot of "libertarian" white guilters, for what it's worth.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Libertarian is in the eye of the beholder ! lolol
That's right. And at least Obama's position on these issues is rational self- interest. What excuse does Mad Mac have besides political pandering?
White guilt = The belief of many whites that a black person's low lot in life is due entirely to "oppression" by whites rather than lack of aptitude or effort on the part of the black person. Blacks make up the lion's share of welfare recipients? It's because they're "oppressed," not because they don't want to work. Blacks make up the lion's share of violent felons? It's not because they're bad people, "oppression" by whites gave them no choice. Blacks do poorly in and tend to drop out of school? Must be because of "prejudice"! African countries are shitholes? Why, colonial "oppression" and "exploitation" is to blame (never mind that without colonialism, none of them would have seen running water, cars, or electricity in their lifetimes). And the only way to solve this problem is to support Obama's Global Tax proposal! And so on.
Blacks make up the lion's share of welfare recipients? It's because they're "oppressed," not because they don't want to work. Blacks make up the lion's share of violent felons? It's not because they're bad people, "oppression" by whites gave them no choice. Blacks do poorly in and tend to drop out of school? Must be because of "prejudice"! Obama, on the other hand, does not have a low lot in life. He has never been characterized by a lack of effort or aptitude. His (white) mother may have been on welfare for a while, but he has never been, in his adult life. He is obviously quite eager to work. He is not a violent felon. Rather than dropping out of school, he excelled in it. And, while his father may have been from Kenya, and Kenya is no Nirvana, it's hard to see what that has to do with him. So what does he have to do with white guilt?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Voting for a black person, successful or not, is a great way for white guilters to show the world how "progressive" and "tolerant" they are. And don't kid yourself about Obama's achievements. The guy is reasonably bright, but do you really think that he'd be anything other than an obscure junior Senator if the mass media hadn't fallen in love with him a couple of years ago, and that the media would have fallen in love with him in the name of political correctness?
All 3 of McHillObama are on that same page, it's just funny that the Ophiles believe that we're going to swallow all this, yet again, because the Marxist Establishment tool gives lip service to bringing troops 'home' and this time the tool is (kind of) black...
At this point, anyone who thinks that either McCain or Obama are going to be an overall lesser evil is deluded. They'll both push this country into a deeper ditch than it's in right now, they'll just do it in slightly different ways.
Do you think the also reasonably bright JFK would have been anything other than an obscure junior Senator if the media hadn't fallen in love with him?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You can thank his daddy for that - he was groomed to be heir of America's new royal family from the day he was born.
And he was also the last president we've had who really defied the corporate establishment.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Yes. Two words. Joe Kennedy.
And the mob. The Kennedys have always been corrupt to the bone.
The fact that Obama lacks a Joe Kennedy in his family history is supposed to make Obama worse?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Marketing. The CFR has outdone themselves this time...
But their corruption hasn't had the same drastic effects on the lives of Americans that the corrupt support of the military-industrial complex by the presidents who followed JFK has had.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
No, the point is that JFK and Obama became media darlings for different reasons. Do you really trust anybody who has so much MSM support? I don't. I knew McCain was a con when the media swooned over the "straight talk express" eight years ago, and I knew that Obama was an empty suit and somebody's tool when the media started to promote his "hope and change" gig.
Sorry Rupert, I didn't see your comment. I should have given you a ditto!
JFK may have been a con, but he was a con that I would gladly settle for a repeat of.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I don't make a man compelled to come here to make enough money to survive and support his kin out to be an Adam Henry. And I don't want amnesty to be a program to give hand outs, but one that helps people work and assimilate if they stay here.
#2. To: aristeides (#1)
Just as forced integration and busing woke up many northern white ethnics in the 1960s and 70s, a black race-driven president who uses his office to excuse black rioters and defend black gangs who attack white kids will be a real eye-opener for many a nice white liberal—to say nothing of the slumbering "conservative" masses.
#3. To: aristeides (#1)
#4. To: ... (#3)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#5. To: Ferret Mike (#4)
We need and I support a strong amnesty bill, and I expect to see one passed within the next couple of years.
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)
We need and I support a strong amnesty bill, and I expect to
see one passed within the next couple of years.
#7. To: christine (#2)
#8. To: aristeides (#7)
So you admit it's possible to support (and even vote for) Obama without being a "white guilter"?
#9. To: aristeides (#7)
#10. To: aristeides (#7)
#11. To: Tauzero (#0)
Clearly these two main groups of Obama supporters are on a collision course.
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
We need and I support an immediate national tax strike by every working American. Socialism, and it's related programs, can no longer be supported.
#13. To: FOH (#8)
I do wonder though if every white guilter is a Marxist.
#14. To: aristeides (#1)
#15. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#13)
I've met a lot of "libertarian" white guilters, for what it's worth.
#16. To: Tauzero (#0)
First: John McCain's stands on affirmative action, immigration, official English, the Confederate flag, and other racially-tinged issues are, in fact, pretty much the same as Obama's.
#17. To: christine (#10)
(Edited)
the concept of white guilt is new to me.
#18. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#17)
White guilt = The belief of many whites that a black person's low lot in life is due entirely to "oppression" by whites rather than lack of aptitude or effort on the part of the black person.
#19. To: aristeides (#18)
(Edited)
#20. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#17)
Obama's Global Tax
#21. To: FOH (#20)
All 3 of McHillObama are on that same page, it's just funny that the Ophiles believe that we're going to swallow all this, yet again
#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)
(Edited)
The guy is reasonably bright, but do you really think that he'd be anything other than an obscure junior Senator if the mass media hadn't fallen in love with him a couple of years ago, and that the media would have fallen in love with him in the name of political correctness?
#23. To: aristeides (#22)
(Edited)
Do you think the also reasonably bright JFK would have been anything other than an obscure junior Senator if the meida hadn't fallen in love with him?
#24. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)
#25. To: aristeides (#22)
Do you think the also reasonably bright JFK would have been anything other than an obscure junior Senator if the meida hadn't fallen in love with him?
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
(Edited)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
#28. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#21)
At this point, anyone who thinks that either McCain or Obama are going to be an overall lesser evil is deluded. They'll both push this country into a deeper ditch than it's in right now, they'll just do it in slightly different ways.
#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#26)
The Kennedys have always been corrupt to the bone.
#30. To: aristeides (#27)
(Edited)
The fact that Obama lacks a Joe Kennedy in his family history is supposed to make Obama worse?
#31. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
#32. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#30)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
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