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Title: Idaho student says teacher tossed his Mexican flag in trash; he's considering lawsuit
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: n
Post Date: 2008-05-07 15:34:05 by Peppa
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A high school student says he may file a lawsuit against a physical education teacher who took a Mexican flag he had brought for Cinco de Mayo and put it in the garbage.

Clint Straatman denies Froylan Camelo's version of events but said he took the flag Monday because "white kids" might have hurt the 16-year-old. He said he put it in a garbage can because he had no place else to keep it.

Camelo said he was changing into gym clothes at Minico High School in Rupert when Straatman told him, "Give me the flag."

"I said, 'What's the problem?'" Camelo, speaking in Spanish, told The Times-News of Twin Falls. "He said, 'The problem is that we are in the United States and not in Mexico.' He grabbed it from me. He threw the flag in the garbage can."

Camelo said that Straatman told him the flag would be returned at the end of the school day, but that Straatman taunted him instead.

"I asked, 'Where is my flag?'" Camelo said. "He said, 'What, the U.S. flag?' I said, 'No, the one for Mexico.' But he wouldn't give it to me."

Camelo said he then took the undamaged flag out of the garbage. He said he's been contacted by the American Civil Liberties Union and is considering a lawsuit against Straatman.

Camelo and others brought Mexican flags to the south-central Idaho school to celebrate Cinco de Mayo, the May 5 recognition of Mexico's victory over the French army on that day in 1862. About a third of the student body is Hispanic.

Straatman denied saying the words Camelo attributed to him, and said the student may have misunderstood him because of his poor English skills. He said he took the flag from Camelo after Camelo had been waving it in the school gym, and denied withholding it later.

"I had to confiscate it so it wouldn't escalate any problems in class," Straatman told The Times-News. "We're worried about that stuff all the time. We always have kids saying stuff to each other, and we have a lot of fights between kids."

Scott Rogers, superintendent of the Minidoka County Joint School District, said an investigation has been started. He said he could not comment specifically about personnel decisions.

"We believe in nondiscriminatory practices and cultural sensitivity," he said. "We train for that and talk about that. If there is a teacher making derogatory comments we don't approve of that. We also don't approve of a student disrupting the classroom."

Rogers said he was at the school early Wednesday and that the school was quiet. He said he noticed a few students wearing clothing in the colors of the Mexican flag – red, white and green – in protest of Monday's incident.

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#2. To: Peppa (#0)

ok, a state employee steals and destroys personal property and also is racially derisive. do you have any idea how many rules these state employes are required to follow? get the socialist @!#$ fired first of all, hes a public school teacher.... (who by definition deserve to be fired) sue and live it up for a couple months. press criminal charges for theft. if i were a lawyer id take the case, the aclu doesnt deserve the dough.

Artisan  posted on  2008-05-07   16:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#2) (Edited)

get the socialist @!#$ fired first of all

What's "socialist" about not liking to see Mexican flags waved in the US? The real "socialists" are the ones who promote multiculturalism and open borders. Let the kid parade around a Mexican flag in Mexico if he wants to.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-07   16:51:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

that might be true but the idea of compulsory govt schools is inherently socialist. they dont want to educate kids, they want to make them amiable stupid slaves. But you already know that. it doesnt have to turn into a 'govt school vs open border proponents'. they all stink.

Artisan  posted on  2008-05-07   16:55:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#6)

it doesnt have to turn into a 'govt school vs open border proponents'. they all stink.

But open border proponents are relying on outrage from people like you to spin this issue in their favor. The kid couldn't even speak English, FCOL, and he's made out to be some kind of victim. Or would border patrol doing its job be "socialism" too?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-07   17:04:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rupert_Pupkin, angle (#11)

But open border proponents are relying on outrage from people like you to spin this issue in their favor. The kid couldn't even speak English, FCOL, and he's made out to be some

This case isnt about illegal immigration or speaking english. The govt encourages illegals while it builds detainment camps purportedly for the same millions it lets roam free. there is no law compelling anyone to speak english that i know of.

bottom line, and the only thing that matters in this case: an agent of the state has no right to destroy your property because they dont like you or your ideas.

state agents of any stripe are not your master. if someone came up to your son and stole his property you would rightly clock him and you know it.

Artisan  posted on  2008-05-07   17:12:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Artisan (#15)

an agent of the state has no right to destroy your property because they dont like you or your ideas.

Amen to that.

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