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Title: MEET THE CHRISTIAN PARTY ***racism alert***
Source: nolu chan
URL Source: http://n/a
Published: May 7, 2008
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2008-05-07 17:01:51 by nolu_chan
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Views: 964
Comments: 31

MEET THE CHRISTIAN PARTY
by nolu chan
May 7, 2008

(and The Fathers Manifesto)

[Old Friend #24]

The following facts are what The Gallup Organization does NOT want you to know about their abortion poll, why they went through a tortured exercise in data manipulation to conceal the following facts about American opinion, why their poll results showing that almost half of Americans view abortion as murder are now missing from their web site, and why they had their lawyers demand that the Fathers' Manifesto Web Site be shut down (which they were successful at doing)

He failed to include the link and the title, so I will oblige:

http://christianparty.net/abortiongallup.htm

Abortion Poll

The Criminal Gallup Organization

The homepage of The Christian Party has a menu on the left hand side. There appears to be no link to the article "The Criminal Gallup Organization," nor seemingly any link to a section on abortion. With perseverance, I found the article without the aid of any menu screen.

They note that the offending information was legally challenged and the hosting Fathers Manifesto website shut down. Even without a title such as, "The Criminal Gallup Organization," its content could constitute libel, and vomiting it up on the pages of 4um, while hiding the source, could invite trouble to 4um.

All image links are given in unusable truncated fashion, for example, "abortion1969.jpg" works more effectively as "http://christianparty.net/abortion1969.jpg" but then that also reveals the source as The Christian Party.

And, of course, the credits at the end are cut off, including, "Copyright @ 2007 by Fathers' Manifesto & Christian Party"

The deletions edited out any and all reference to The Christian Party.

The Christian Party website is there, and self-proclaimed as "Official Fathers' Manifesto Worldwide Web Sites Since 1995."

That was quite an effort to hide the source of the Christian Identity crap that was vomited all over the board.

The Fathers Manifesto is published and copyright by The Christian Party, a bunch of crazy loons with the Christian Identity movement who espouse racism, antisemitism, and anti-feminism. They offer a poll on whether to send Blacks back to Africa and espouse amending the Constitution to revoke a woman's right to vote. They offer the ladies the following pledge: "I, as a submissive woman of God, and of sound mind, do hereby give my vote to this man of God: __________________ to exercise for the glory of Yahvh, our Creator. I make this statement publickly as an example for other godly women to emulate, and for the edification of the world through which we are passing. I make this statement bona fide dei gratia, for Christ Jesus my Lord. Amen."

I provide the whole pledge with a link below in case any of the ladies are interested in signing on.

Of course, as resident racists are quick to point out, their Obama attacks are never racist. It is an enlightened discussion of policy positions. Nine pages of Christian Identity libelous crap just sneaked in there without attribution. It was just a happening.

Any and all racists enlightened thinkers who care to defend this group, or placing any of its turds of non-thought on 4um, are invited to give it their best enlightened shot.

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#1. To: Christine, Old Friend, robin, a vast rightwing conspirator, Pinguinite, iconoclast, All (#0)

THE CHRISTIAN PARTY

http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Christian_Party_(United_States)

The Christian Party is a minor political party in the United States. It is connected to the Christian Identity movement. The party's ideology is dominated by racism (especially hostile towards African-Americans and Hispanics), antisemitism and anti-feminism. Their website includes polls on issues such as "exiling Blacks" these polls claim to result in over 90% of people surporting the exile of blacks however this is clearly a bias result.

The party's ideology resembles that of another party with the same name, the Christian Party (1930s), founded by William Dudley Pelley.

the Official Fathers' Manifesto Worldwide Web Sites Since 1995

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2122326

"Next we have the Moran Award. This is the site that is so 'moranic' and extremist that you just have to view it for yourself. The winner of this one is:"

http://christianparty.net/intro.htm

The Fathers' Manifesto

Fighting feminism, ending affirmative action, and restoring responsible fatherhood

NEW: Christian Party World Wide Web Site wins the coveted Moran Award!!

"Next we have the Moran Award. This is the site that is so 'moranic' and extremist that you just have to view it for yourself. The winner of this one is:

Take five minutes to complete the Poll on Exiling Blacks

http://blackexile.com/eajas/pollliberia.htm

Five Minute Poll on Repatriating Blacks to Liberia

Your participation in this poll is crucial.

None of your confidential or personal information will ever be disclosed to anyone unless you request it.

The only way any part of your input will be made public is that your answers will be combined with the totals, and the totals will be published on this web site and other internet sites.

Please leave a valid email address if you'd like the Final Report of this Landmark Black Exodus Survey.

Thank you for taking five minutes to complete it.

They even have a platform.

A HREF="http://christianparty.net/christianparty.htm">http://christianparty.net/christianparty.htm

III) ABORTION
Whereas, two thirds of Americans oppose legalized abortion; half of Americans view abortion as MURDER http://christianparty.net/abortiongallup.com [NC - DEAD LINK] ; and 40 million potential fellow Americans have been aborted under the direction of the U.S. government in violation of God's law. Because existing political parties do nothing to uphold the will of the majority of their constituents, the third plank of this platform shall be to outlaw abortion.

VII) PERJURY
Whereas, the US contains one third of the world's prison population but only 4.5% of the world's population; one third of American men now imprisoned dna.htm whose DNA was tested by scientific FBI studies were found to be innocent, 37 American men were found to be innocent after they were executed Because existing political parties stand idly by and do nothing, the seventh plank of this platform shall be to prosecute those responsible for encouraging perjury and propagating false allegations.

[nc - I sure would like the 37 names of executed people proven innocent by FBI DNA testing.]

XI) SINGLE-MOTHER HOUSEHOLDS
Whereas, the Bill of Rights protects the rights of Christians to practice their religion; fundamental Christian principles are violated by displacing Christianity with feminism; family stability is undermined by requiring Christians to financially support the single-mother households created and supported smh.htm through massive federal taxation. Because existing political parties do nothing to stem this social pathology, the eleventh plank of this platform shall be to outlaw single-mother households.

http://christianparty.net/surveys.htm

INTERNET WIDE SURVEYS AND POLLS

1. Eighty nine percent (89%) favor repatriation of African Americans to Liberia. 2. Two thirds oppose abortion on demand. 3. Fifty seven percent (57%) view abortion as MURDER! 4. Less than a quarter believe sodomy should be legalized. 5. More than three quarters believe sodomy is always wrong (The Statistical Handbood on the American Family, Oryx Press, 1992). 6. Many believe SWAT Teams did more damage to society than most criminals. 7. "More than 80 percent of the 603 people surveyed favored abolishing [affirmative action], including a surprising 79 percent of blacks, 80 percent of Hispanics, and 82 percent of women. The results confirmed a similar poll conducted in Florida two years earlier in which 84 percent of voters, and 86 percent of blacks, supported a ban on preferences." 8. Less than three percent of the "victims" of domestic violence believe government should be involved. 9. Two thirds believe the Talmud, jewish judges, jewish control of the media, and jewish control of education played a key role in our current social pathology. 10. Three quarters support the expulsion to Madagascar of the 1.9% of "Americans" who are jews (but hold Israeli passports). 11. Majority of Americans want smaller government, consistent with Signatories. 12. One out of five Americans believe the IRS should arrest those who don't file tax returns (WorldnetDaily Poll). 13. The tragedy of American education:TIMSS demonstrated to the world that a statistical zero percent of American 12th grade girls are able to resolve math and physics problems. 14. Nine out of ten Americans pray regularly, two out of three want creationism in public schools, and three out of four want spoken Christian prayers in public schools. 15. More than half of men voters support the existing second amendment (Gallup Poll) and less than 8% of Americans believe gun control laws are effective (Be Counted Poll). 16. Nineteen out of twenty (95%) of Americans believe we are headed the wrong direction morally. 17. Who sponsored 911?:

• Reuters Poll reports that two thirds say the jew.
• Three quarters say the NWO/White House.

[nc note: 2/3rds plus 3/4ths = 141.66%]

http://christianparty.net/19th.htm

We the undersigned, hereby demand that the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads:

AMENDMENT XIX Passed by Congress June 4, 1919. Ratified August 18, 1920. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

shall be repealed.

September 19, 1998

Copyright 1999 "Repeal the Nineteenth"tm

Until the Nineteenth Amendment is repealed, Christian women are invited to sign the following proxy statement, file it with their local county recorder, and fax the signed statement to 866 721 5995:

"I, as a submissive woman of God, and of sound mind, do hereby give my vote to this man of God: __________________ to exercise for the glory of Yahvh, our Creator. I make this statement publickly as an example for other godly women to emulate, and for the edification of the world through which we are passing.

I make this statement bona fide dei gratia, for Christ Jesus my Lord. Amen."

Signed: _______________________

Sponsored by: Women for God's Law

[nc - linked page includes following enlightenment:

"Only 12% of men and 9% of women support such "liberal" concepts as the Nineteenth Amendment." I wonder what the margin of error was on THAT poll???]

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety, 1 Timothy 2:11-15

[June 10, 2005: This page and this movement are hereby dedicated to the woman voter who voted to send men to Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, and Iraq, exercised authority over a man in violation of God's Law above, and then complained that it was men who started wars and that men who had been taught to kill in Vietnam are "violent"]

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http://christianparty.net/credibility.htm1

Credibility of Internet-based Polls

We've collected a very awe-inspiring data base of the candid opinions of those who've taken the time to complete this poll. But how representative is it of the voting American public? There are a number of ways you can judge for yourself if it's truly representative, something you can bet you'll never hear from Tom Brokaw.

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http://christianparty.net/indexourfamily.html

ZERO PERCENT of American 12th grade girls demonstrate advanced math ability.

http://christianparty.net/mf.htm

Why the 19th Amendment Must Be Repealed

Scientific Evidence that Men and Women are Designed Differently

Women voters caused government spending to grow geometrically.

87% of Men Score Higher than Top Woman in Golf.

Women voters enabled Clinton's election.

Only 3% of Democrats would elect a woman for president.

Women voters reduced Personal Savings to zero and left the US with the industrialized world's only negative Personal Savings rate.

Women start the majority of static-related fires.

Women voters continue to support government growth even though the average net worth of an American household is now a negative $77,000 each.

Women voters subsidize single-mother households even though children in Mother-only Households are three times more likely to be fatally abused than in Father-only Households and even though the mothers' involvement decreases the likelihood of students' getting mostly 'A's by 32% and the fathers' involvement doubles it. (Single-mother households vs. single-father households)

Women voters demand more female pilots even though women pilots are four times more likely to crash than men pilots.

Women voters demand DUI laws which discriminate against men even though women drivers are two times more likely than men to have a fatal or injury accident.

Women voters pass numerous laws which intentionally and systematically discriminate against men and fathers.

Women voters pass tax laws which enable women as a group to pay zero percent of federal taxes.

Women voters demand "gender equality" in the workforce even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls correctly answered TIMSS math and physics questions.

Women voters pass laws reducing male college admissions to only 40% even though 98.5% of the top fiftieth percentile of GRE test takers are men.

Women voters implement affirmative action for women even though the negative contribution of one female employee in the workforce is equivalent to the positive contribution of 14 male employees and GDP per Capita decreases $2,450 for each one percent increase in the percent of the workforce which is women.

Women voters demand preferential treatment for women but not Asians, even though Asians are as unlikely as women to be police and Asian males score 87 SAT points higher than white females.

Women voters demand special privileges for female employees even though males score higher in NAEP Math & Science, IAEP Math & Science, SAT Math & Verbal, ACT Natural Science, Social Science, & Math, TIMSS Math & Science, and GRE tests.

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http://christianparty.net/19threpeal.htm

The whole petition to repeal women's right to vote.

Whereas, American women as a group have not benefited from feminism, women's rights, matriarchy, socialism, nor the Nineteenth Amendment which gave women the right to vote, and

Whereas, American women did benefit greatly from the our nation's 2 century tradition of the predominate male vote, as women controlled 65% of the wealth in the nation which in the 1960s had the world's highest standard of living, and

Whereas, the predominate male vote was undermined by the Nineteenth Amendment, and

Whereas, the Nineteenth Amendment undermined family stability; placed 40% of our nation's children in fatherless households; removed the majority vote from men who pay the majority of taxes; caused national issues of serious concern to be decided by female emotionalism and 'compassion', and

Whereas, since the feminists met in Seneca Falls, the US divorce rate increased 50-fold from 0.1 to 5.0 divorces per 1,000 population, greatly undermining the ability of our nation to create and save that wealth--to the great detriment of women, and

Whereas, since the Nineteenth Amendment was ratified, the number of divorces in the US increased seven (7) fold, from 171,000 to 1,200,000 per year, while the population increased only 2.5 fold, and

Whereas, 50 million American women today remain unmarried, while 95% of them would have gained the benefits of secure marriages had it not been for this breakdown of families, and

Whereas, compared to married women, unmarried women have a 5-10 times higher probability of living in poverty, a 2-3 times higher probability of premature death, and an average 73% lower standard of living, representative of a significantly reduced condition and status which has not and cannot be corrected by government intervention, and

Whereas, children reared in single-mother and step-father households, compared to children reared in two-parent families, are more likely to go to prison by 8 times, to commit suicide by 5 times, to have behavioral problems by 20 times, to become rapists by 20 times, to run away by 32 times, to abuse chemical substances by 10 times, to drop out of high school by 9 times, to be seriously abused by 33 times, to be fatally abused by 73 times, to be one tenth as likely to get A's in school, to have a 44% higher mortality rate, and to have a 72% lower standard of living, and

Whereas, the Nineteenth Amendment is directly and solely responsible for: 29 major federal social experiments which have proven to be abject failures; wasting in just 3 decades more money on welfare than the total stock value of each Fortune 500 Corporation and each acre of US farm land combined at the same time the poverty rate in the US increased from 11.6% to 15.4%; implementing AFDC and enslaving black Americans to liberal political spending; implementing affirmative action which required a plebiscite to reject after 3 decades of US financial ruin; implementing failed experiments with women in the military and in once fine military academies; the two-time election of and widespread public support for William Jefferson Clinton, and

Whereas, with the Nineteenth Amendment, since the 1960s: 1) The divorce rate doubled. 2) The murder rate tripled as the solution rate for murders declined from 92% to 63%. 3) The value of the dollar declined 75% per the Consumer Price Index and 11 times per the gold standard (from $32/oz to $352/oz). 4) More was spent for welfare than the entire asset value of each Fortune 500 corporation and each acre of farm land, combined. 5) The percent of the world's autos supplied by the U.S. declined from 60% to 20% 6) The prison population increased four fold to a rate 5 times that of China whom we accuse of human rights abuses 7) The average weight of an American increased 25 pounds. 8) The percent of American men of marriageable age who remain unmarried increased from 23.2% to 50%, 9) SAT scores declined 98 points, and

Whereas, with the Nineteenth Amendment, since the 1970s: 1) GDP per worker declined 70% per the gold standard, 2) The savings rate declined to less than 0.4% (versus 34% in Japan ), 3) Public Debt increased 8 fold to $5.5 Trillion making the U.S. is the largest debtor nation in world history, 4) More than 32 million babies were aborted, 5) Cocaine use rose 45% in spite of the world's strictest "drug war" and a 10 fold increase in criminal justice system expenditures (which now exceed the budget for national defense), 6) The trade deficit increased from $12 Billion in the black to $123 Billion in the red, 7) Government spending as a percent of the average American's income exceeds 42% and is rising, compared to 20% in Japan and 24% in the U.S. 3 during the height of WWII, 8) Drunk driving arrests are up 5 fold while the motor vehicle fatality rate increased from 30% lower than Germany's to 45% higher in the same period, 9) Health services costs are up 8 fold and the paperwork required to meet government regulations costs 3% of GDP. 10)"a 560% increase in violent crime, a 419% increase in illegitimate births, a 3000% increase in single-parent households, and a drop of almost 80 points in SAT scores." (source: The Guardian), 11) The percent of children living with married parents declined from 39% to 26%, 12) The amount of time per day that children watch TV increased from 5 hours to 7 hours, 13) The number of the world's Top 52 Banks which were U.S. declined from 22 to only three (with assets of $720 Billion while 24 were Japanese with assets of $6,000 Billion), 14) The number of lawyers increased to 64 times more lawyers than Japan has, while Japan now has 4 times as many engineers, 15) The ratio of manufacturing employees to government employees declined from 2.5:1 to less than 1:1, 16) US Personal Savings declined to $203 Billion while Japan has $25,000 Billion (that is $25 Trillion) in their savings ,17) The net worth of the nation declined by $7.8 trillion at the same time that the net worth of Japan increased by $22.4 trillion, and

Whereas, feminist education policies advanced by the Nineteenth Amendment caused: real SAT Scores in the US to decline 98 points in 3 decades; US 13 year olds to score higher than only one nation (Jordan) in IAEP Math out of 15 nations; US 9 year olds to score higher than only one nation (Jordan) in IAEP Math out of 15 nations; the US to score last in IAEP Science out of 7 nations; US 12th graders to score higher than only South Africa and Cyprus out of 21 nations taking the TIMSS test; California and Lousiana to score last in the nation in NAEP Reading; the cost per student of California's education system to be higher than half of the other states; the US to spend more per student for education than 15 out of 18 nations; this poor education quality and high education cost to be true even with class sizes smaller than 14 of 19 nations; California to be in 37th place in graduation rates in the US, graduating less than two thirds of its students while Japan graduates 97% of theirs; YET 98% of the top fiftieth percentile of the Graduate Record Exam are men, and only 2% are women, and

Whereas, systematic discrimination against men permitted by the Nineteenth Amendment is so pervasive that: 1) Women hold 65% of the country's wealth, and men only 35%, 2) Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%, 3) Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women, 4) Men commit suicide at a rate 4.6 times higher than women, are murdered at a rate 5 times that of women, are 97% of workplace fatalities, and have a life expectancy seven (7) years shorter than women, yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs, 5) Men are discriminated against by design through affirmative action, 6) Men pay 115% of federal income taxes, 7) The increase in the number of female voters to 11.1% more than male voters eliminated male choice as to how the male tax dollar would be spent, 8) Men, not women, fight and die in battle without complaint while women sue the taxpayer for $millions when a colleague--not the taxpayer--pinches their butt, 9) Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men, 10) Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for the same crime, 11) Fathers are 97% of "child support" collections prosecutions, and women only 3%, 12) Men are the recipients of less than 10% of welfare disbursements, 13) Men are now only 45% of college admissions, and women are 55%, 14) Women have 200 all-female colleges and men have not one single all-male college, 15) 58% of domestic physical altercations are initiated by the female, a fact ignored by Congress when it passed the Violence AgainstWomen Act, 16) Mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological commit 6%, yet the Nineteenth Amendment permitted children to be systematically removed from their biological --their safest, most secure, most enriching environment, 17) A majority of the $1.7 Trillion federal budget supports and encourages continued family breakdown, even though the US Surgeon General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, and

Whereas, the Nineteenth Amendment is a violation of my Christian or religious beliefs.

We the undersigned, hereby demand that the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads:

• AMENDMENT XIX Passed by Congress June 4, 1919. Ratified August 18, 1920. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

shall be repealed.

September 19, 1998

Copyright "Repeal the Nineteenth"tm

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http://christianparty.net/rcc.htm

Roman Catholic Church

More Proof of the Anti-Christ Nature of the Catholic Church

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The Christian Party Wiki page

http://christianparty.net/wiki/

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This is the main page of your new ChristianWikiPedia, created for you by the Christian Party.

Once you create an account, which is very simple to do, you can create a new page from scratch.

You may also edit this page and customize the contents.

Happy ChristianWikiPedia--and don't forget that Wikipedia is run by jews!!

Copyright @ 2007 by Fathers' Manifesto & Christian Party

The Fathers Manifesto, 1995

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http://www.terryhoward.net/2007/02/fathers-manifesto-madness-john-knight.html

Father's Manifesto Madness & John Knight

Posted by Terry Howard @ 2/07/2007

Someone just pointed out this blast from the past to me and I can't stop laughing. Here's the backstory:

Way back in like 1995 or something I was on several email mailing lists sponsored by Lynda Weinman and her brother Bill. These were about web design and web sociology, basically the places where I got my true formal education on how to develop for the web. Well, one day some nutjob starting cross-posting nonsensical rants about, well, all the crazy junk you find on the site referenced above (not Lynda or Bill, the first one.) The odd thing was even after multiple members pointed out his mistake, he just kept right at it. There you'd be in the middle of a discussion about setting up HTML tables and this guy interjects some completely wacko 3 page rambling about how women are evil, stupid, eating babies, etc... Looking at his site I can't help but think that he could have stood to listen to some of the web design discussions a little more.

So I, like many on the list, kept sending him "cease and desist" emails and apparently mine impressed him enough to immortalize it on his site. I must admit, it is one of my proudest achievements. What I especially love is that on this page the email is linked referencing me as a "flaming feminazi". That is just badass. Doing a little research it's hard to determine if this guy John Knight is serious or the Father's Manifesto is some kind of hoax. It seems more like John Knight is some fringe activist that is burning more bridges with his Father's Manifesto than making allies among... other wackos I guess. Either way, it gives me a chuckle to know the cite is hanging out there.

http://christianparty.net/terryhoward.htm

Feminism

An Abomination Before God!

"Terry Howard" terryh@ao.net

To:"Fathers' Manifesto"

> You are an insane little man. You are paranoid, have low self esteem, most
> likely because you were hurt by a woman, who most likely saw the same rage
> and manical ravings we see here. Do not post to me now, or ever again. I
> tire of your sick perverted sense of reality, and your trangressions against
> freedom stink of fascist overtones. GET HELP! Remove my email from
> whatever list you have, stop cross-posting me, and just GO AWAY! Any more
> messages sent to me from your "Manifesto" address will be regarded as
> unsolicited advertisements that have already been told to cease. Sell
> crazy somewhere else.

http://christianparty.net/feminism.htm

Fighting Feminism

Abomination Before God!

Feminazis hate God

God hates feminazis

55,308,000 American Lives Lost

After four decades and an extra $8 trillion to try to educate women, the following "logic" is all we get:

"We forbid any course that says we restrict free speech!"

HA!

A feminazi is obviously incapable as a man and plainly undesirable as a woman

Let's not leave out enlightenment on AIDS.

http://christianparty.net/aids.htm

WHERE ARE 7-10 MILLION MISSING JEWS?

The worldwide population of jews in 1988 was 18.1 million. At the normal growth rate of 1.5% per year, there would have been 21.8 million by 2006, and at only 1% per year there would have been 23.8 million. Yet jew sources report that there were only 13.3 million. So where were the other 8.5 to 10.5 million jews? Did they all die from AIDS?

The above analysis suggests that this is precisely what happened to them. What other explanation can there be? And why did the news media, which spends prodigious amounts of energy chasing down a supposed 6 million holocausted jews from more than half a century ago COMPLETELY ignore this most damaging holocaust [with holocaust being a reference only to the deaths of jews and nobody else, like the 264 million Christians who died in WWII], which eliminated up to 60% [SIXTY PERCENT] of the world's supply of jews?

By 2002, the AIDS rate in states with the most jews decreased dramatically, whereas in the states with few jews there was a very small decrease, further evidence that AIDS decimated the jewish population, in the world, not just in the US. It's not that jews were dying at a slower rate--it was that there were fewer of them left alive. The same is true of the black populations, particularly Washington, DC, where the percent who are blacks plunged from 82% to less than 60% (along with the murder rate). But even with that reduction, Washington retained its title as both the AIDS Capitol of the US, as well as the Murder Capitol of the WORLD.

Even with an average AIDS rate for blacks of 27, states with many blacks and few jews like Mississippi, Florida, and Indiana, had average AIDS rates even lower than that. If blacks are the only ones with AIDS in those states, then their AIDS death rate in Mississippi is 21, in Florida is 25.5, and in Indiana is 18. This MIGHT be explained by their not being in contact with blacks in areas with higher risk to AIDS through sodomy and illicit drugs--or it may be that blacks have an even lower AIDS rate than predicted above, or about 20. Once adjusted for these anomalies, the AIDS rate for jews in 1993 must be increased to 220, meaning that jews are 11 TIMES more likely to die of AIDS than blacks, something you would never learn from the jew controlled "news" media. Why are jews being so silent about their own demise, when they still scream from the rooftops about being "holocausted" more than half a century ago?

Of the 36,990 AIDS deaths in 1993, 30,699 or 83% of them were jews and only 17% were blacks. In 2002, of the 14,210 AIDS deaths, 62% or 8,833 of them were jews and 38% were blacks. The number of Hispanics, Whites, Asians, and Indians who died of AIDS were statistically insignificant.

The only explanation for this two thirds reduction in the AIDS rate in the US is that the primary target of AIDS, jews, were almost wiped out, having been reduced from 14 million to only 4 million.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-07   17:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They offer a poll on whether to send Blacks back to Africa

Didn't go through the whole thing, but looks like a good poll.

espouse amending the Constitution to revoke a woman's right to vote.

The framers got that one right, IMO. Positive rights are mostly bunk. Treating them like negative natural rights is childish.

Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”

Tauzero  posted on  2008-05-07   17:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I see why you support Obama.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   17:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Women start the majority of static-related fires.

Satanic.

Voting is a waste of time, by the way.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-07   17:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Christian Party, a bunch of crazy loons with the Christian Identity movement who espouse racism, antisemitism, and anti-feminism.

Why, how dare they!

Espouse AntiSemitism?

Only the Zionistas, who are themselves the Origininal AntiSemites, can do that kind of espousing!!

Otherwise sounds like a Cool Party...

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2008-05-07   19:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

NC: do you believe that Menorahs in the public square are acceptable, but Crèches are oppressive?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   19:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We're not talking about subsidizing anything. The public square is already constructed, it has open space, and the "people" are supplying the decorations, as they have for generations. The "people" used to have a right to celebrate their closely held beliefs in the public square, but that would have offended you know who.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We're not talking about subsidizing anything. The public square is already constructed, it has open space, and the "people" are supplying the decorations, as they have for generations. The "people" used to have a right to celebrate their closely held beliefs in the public square, but that would have offended you know who.

If there is space and resources for all religions to have access - if they want access - then it's probably fine. If there isn't space and resources for all religions to have access, the most fair result is to say that no religion can have access. The goal is to avoid promoting one religion over another and thereby establishing a state religion.

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   17:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your arguments are very close to the ADLs on a number of issues.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The goal is to avoid promoting one religion over another and thereby establishing a state religion.

Whose goal? Yours?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That'd be the goal of the First Amendment of the US Constitution ...

Pathetic. I can't believe I'm reading this on 4. Then again, you're for Obama and open borders. It all makes perfect sense.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Christian Identity and Islam are inseparable when it comes to women. Except the CI's don't kill THEIR women.

(now donning my asbestos suit...)

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the white community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the white community first and foremost."<-- I bastardized Michelle Obama's quote ;-)

X-15  posted on  2008-05-08   17:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not even worth my time.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   17:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No problem. Entertainment is what the Internet is all about.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whose goal? Yours?

It is the literal and articulated goal of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. There are hundreds of Supreme Court cases that affirm this. It is one of the basic tenants behind the First Amendment - and has been for well over 100 years.

Jefferson himself stated that the primary purpose of the amendment was to erect "a wall" between church and state. He foresaw the danger of fundie loons like those mentioned above trying to take over the government and then force their religion upon us by force of law.

Google "Treaty of Tripoli" and read how the founding fathers clearly stated that the United States is not a Christian nation. The first Congress of the United States ratified this language.

Following this, almost 100 years was dedicated to a Constitutional Amendment which would name the US as a Christian nation. This effort finally failed at about the time of the civil war.

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   17:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't get me wrong. I could just care less about debating this issue with you. I can't believe it's even something that 4 invites. By the way, are you planning to endorse Obama in any way?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-08   17:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Didn't go through the whole thing, but looks like a good poll.

In addressing your other knowledge gaps, you should practice saying, "President Obama.," just in case.

There is no need for you to be so bashful about what you defend. Let me help you out and display what you defend as "a good poll." I like a good laugh at the expense of barking moonbat racism and sexism.

christianparty.net/pollblacks.htm

Five Minute Poll on Exiling Blacks

Click blackexile.com/eajas/pollliberia.htm here to complete the five minute poll

or review the comments to date, below, first

blackexile.com/eajas/pollliberia.htm

D5) I believe the 400,000 black slaves of the 17th Century were never more productive than their cousins in Africa who now earn less than $50 per month.

D7) I believe neither blacks nor Hispanics will ever have the potential to repay American Whites the trillions of dollars they owe them.

F1) I believe the primary reason that so few if any blacks in Mozambique and Washington, DC, were able to solve math problems on standardized international tests like IAEP and NAEP is that God didn't provide them this capacity.

G1) I believe it's impossible for blacks and Whites to have a common ancestor.

G4) I believe the Holy Bible and our Founding Forefathers who considered blacks to be "beasts" and "animals" were correct and that modern political correctness is in serious error.

H1) I believe our Founding Forefathers and many past presidents like Abraham Lincoln and James Monroe established Liberia for the express purpose of giving American blacks the opportunity to return to Africa.

H20) I believe that repatriating to Liberia the one million blacks currently in American prisons would save $300 billion per year in justice system costs.

H21) I believe that, with what American blacks have learned and accomplished here, they can turn Liberia into the garden spot of Africa.

H23) I believe that, since American blacks believe that our removing them from Africa was worthy of $18 trillion in reparations, their actual repatriation back to Africa is worth at least that much, if not more.

H27) I believe that the only way to resolve any of the above problems is for American blacks to simply be exiled to Africa with no financial incentives whatsoever.

christianparty.net/19th.htm

Only 12% of men and 9% of women support such "liberal" concepts as the Nineteenth Amendment.

And all your ladies take the pledge, "I, as a submissive woman of God, and of sound mind, do hereby give my vote to this man of God: __________________ to exercise for the glory of Yahvh, our Creator." You and yours are so lucky to all have women like that.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-09   3:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I see why you support Obama.

I see inventing your "facts" is an addiction.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-09   3:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why, how dare they! Espouse AntiSemitism?

You shouldn't worry about it senior, seagoing, ret. According to these barking moonbats, Jews were just about all killed off worldwide by the AIDS epidemic, with 7-10 million disappearing.

As you support this moonbattery, just remind yourself that they are not here anymore and you have an authoritative source for your knowledge.

http://christianparty.net/aids.htm

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-09   3:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

NC: do you believe that Menorahs in the public square are acceptable, but Crèches are oppressive?

No.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-09   3:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How about a creche with a crucifix rammed through it?

"Mommy, what's that inscription say?"

"It says 'Cute little baby -- DESTINED BY GOD FOR PUBLIC EXECUTION!' dear."

nobody  posted on  2008-05-09   3:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Google "Treaty of Tripoli" and read how the founding fathers clearly stated that the United States is not a Christian nation.

For Christian Party dishonesty and nonsense, see

http://christianparty.net/christianation.htm

The question begs then, did the Supreme Court recognize the United States as a Christian nation? Well, in 1892 the US Supreme Court made this ruling in a case. (Church of The Holy Trinity vs. The United States.) "No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people. This is a Christian nation."

Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 457 (1892)

This purported bastardized quote contains one sentence from 143 U.S. page 465 and a sentence fragment from 143 U.S. page 471.

The sentence from page 465 is from the Court's discussion of the content of the Congressional record.

The "quote" from page 471 is really the end of a sentence. It is less impressive when the whole thing is read in context

From 143 U.S. 471:

These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation. In the face of all these, shall it be believed that a Congress of the United States intended to make it a misdemeanor for a church of this country to contract for the services of a Christian minister residing in another nation?

Page 143 U. S. 472

Suppose, in the Congress that passed this act, some member had offered a bill which in terms declared that if any Roman Catholic church in this country should contract with Cardinal Manning to come to this country and enter into its service as pastor and priest, or any Episcopal church should enter into a like contract with Canon Farrar, or any Baptist church should make similar arrangements with Rev. Mr. Spurgeon, or any Jewish synagogue with some eminent rabbi, such contract should be adjudged unlawful and void, and the church making it be subject to prosecution and punishment. Can it be believed that it would have received a minute of approving thought or a single vote? Yet it is contended that such was, in effect, the meaning of this statute. The construction invoked cannot be accepted as correct. It is a case where there was presented a definite evil, in view of which the legislature used general terms with the purpose of reaching all phases of that evil, and thereafter, unexpectedly, it is developed that the general language thus employed is broad enough to reach cases and acts which the whole history and life of the country affirm could not have been intentionally legislated against. It is the duty of the courts under those circumstances to say that, however broad the language of the statute may be, the act, although within the letter, is not within the intention of the legislature, and therefore cannot be within the statute.

The judgment will be reversed, and the case remanded for further proceedings in accordance with this opinion.

The Court did not rule that this was a Christian nation as that question was not before the Court. The Court noted, in dictum, that there was a "volume of unofficial declarations" and a "mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation" in deciding that it was not the intent of Congress to criminalize the act of a church which contracts for the services of a Christian minister residing in another nation. Anything in dictum is the opinion of the individual justice, not the holding of the court.

http://tinyurl.com/5pyjxm

News-Leader, Springfiled, MO

April 9, 2008

No legal basis for Wampler's claim

Re: "America is great because it was built on foundation of Christian principles," March 22.

Mr. Wampler is incorrect when he states, "The Supreme Court declared the United States a Christian nation in 1892." The actual case was concerned with contracts to import aliens to perform labor. Whether or not the U.S. was a Christian nation was not even an issue. Justice Brewer did write "that unofficial declaration has shown the U.S. to be a Christian nation." This reflected Justice Brewer's personal view and not a legal one.

In a 1905 book, [nc - The United States: A Christian Nation, by David Brewer, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States] Justice Brewer said he meant "Christian in a cultural sense, not a legal one." Nevertheless, it is often used by the religious right. Mr. Wampler cites this Supreme Court case and ignores at least 50 others. Allow me to quote from just a few ...

"The First Amendment has erected a wall between Church and State. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We must not approve the slightest breach." Justice Hugo Black, 1947 ...

"We have staked our very existence on the faith that complete separation between state and religion is best for both state and religion." Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1948 ...

"Separation means separation, not something less. Jefferson speaks of a wall not a fine line easily overstepped." Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1948 ...

"In the relationship between man and religion the state is firmly committed to a position of neutrality." Justice Tom Clark, 1963.

Whenever a breach is tolerated, the religious right will then use it as justification for further breaches as Mr. Wampler and other writers have done with the Pledge of Allegiance. The pledge was composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892 without the phrase "under God."

For 62 years, the pledge was recited without the phrase. In 1954, at the height of the anti-communist hysteria when people saw communists lurking under every bed, Congress added the phrase. At the same time, they changed our national motto from "E pluribus unum" to "In God We Trust" and put it on our paper currency. The religious right will never be satisfied until we have a Christian version of the Taliban here.

http://tinyurl.com/5vmslt

THE UNITED STATES
A CHRISTIAN NATION

By David J. Brewer
Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
Philadelphia, The John C. Winston Company
1905

We classify nations various ways, as, for instance, by their form of government. One is a kingdom, another an empire, and still another a republic. Also by race. Great Britain is an Anglo-Saxon nation, France a Gallic, Germany a Teutonic, Russia a Slav. And still again by religion. One is a Mohammedan nation, others are heathen, and still others are Christian nations.

This republic is classified among the Christian nations of the world. It was so formally declared by the Supreme Court of the United States. In the case of Holy Trinity Church vs. United States, 143 U. S. 471, that court, after mentioning various circumstances, added, "these and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."

But in what sense can it be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or that the people are in any manner compelled to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within our borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in the public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions.

As for The Treaty of Tripoli,

ARTICLE 11.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-09   6:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Synagogue of Zionism/Sah-tan is a far greater worry than Corrupted Christendom.

Notice how they always portray themselves as "innocent victims" no matter what?

Cleverly, clever. Just ask them - they're the most intelligent "race" on earth and Oh So Spayshul in the Eyes of Their God.

Free Pass. Free Pass.....

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2008-05-22   21:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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