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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
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Comments: 328

He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.
One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens.
Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^)
Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there?
Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.
Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).
Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?
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I love a good schismatic forum fight....only without the schism. ;^)
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#1. To: Arator (#0)
He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.

Meet the new Rockefeller puppet, same as the old one.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 19:39:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Arator (#0)
Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

hehehehe..that made me laugh.

christine posted on 2008-05-07 19:42:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Arator (#0)
Arator, Arator, Arator......my very lost friend. The Beast changes pieces like we do socks. The Clinton's aren't going to open an Arby's franchise and sell cheap roast beef sandwiches now that Obama has bumped Hillary off the rails. Knowing their lust for power, she just might collude with McKooK to defeat Obama, and then seek the throne in '12. McKooK will be 77 years old, and she'll be a well preserved 65. The game goes on, with (some) of us pawns never catching on.
Peace.

Jethro Tull posted on 2008-05-07 19:48:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: christine (#2)
hehehehe..that made me laugh.

LOL. Needle. Needle.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Arator posted on 2008-05-07 19:49:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Arator (#0)
their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

And the latest allegation: by supporting the 2nd amendment, more innocents die in Iraq.

angle posted on 2008-05-07 19:50:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: angle (#5)
And the latest allegation: by supporting the 2nd amendment, more innocents die in Iraq.

it is amazing how anything can be rationalized. ;)

christine posted on 2008-05-07 19:56:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#3) (Edited)
Knowing their lust for power, she just might collude with McKooK to defeat Obama, and then seek the throne in '12. McKooK will be 77 years old, snd she'll be a well preserved 65.

Hillary and McCain are running mates already! Remember Bill Clinton's comments about how nice it would be to have a Hillary/McCain race, because they are practically just the same?
He let on more in those comments than he realized. If anything, this should encourage us that Barak is not entirely acceptable to the Bush/Clinton cabal. Yet another good reason to support him against McCain, IMO.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Arator posted on 2008-05-07 19:56:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Arator (#0)
Obama's eliminating the Clinton was a good thing. If he succeeds in getting us out of Iraq alone, it's at least $100 billion that we don't have saved every year and maybe 10,000 young and productive workers who won't die but pay taxes instead and consume like crazy to stimulate the economy.
Every time I read someone saying "they're all the same" I think of unbelievable intellectual laziness, lack of imagination and curiosity and/or willing surrender to worthless cliches.
Obama has many qualities, of which his best is his not being a Clinton or a freaking Bush. He is intelligent, he seems to be a gentleman and he is not evil. We should always prefer non-evil people to the evil ones.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-05-07 20:00:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
I really don't mind your penchant for dreaming. It's just tragic, though.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:01:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Arator (#7)
Remember Bill Clinton's comments about how nice it would be to have a Hillary/McCain race, because they are practically just the same?

I like the yin and yang angle. Hillary and McCain are about the same except for their sex. They make a great pair.
Plus, it will be hilarious next October when Rush orders the goobers to hold their noses and vote for Hillary and McCain - and you know that WILL happen.
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... posted on 2008-05-07 20:01:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: ... (#10)
It's more likely that he'll be telling them to vote for Holy Joe and McCain.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:02:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: buckeye (#9) (Edited)
I really don't mind your penchant for dreaming. It's just tragic, though.

Did you even READ what I wrote before replying to it? Did you THINK about about what I wrote? Have you MEDITATED and ANALYZED the deep wisdom emanating from my writing.
I am asking because you managed to 'read' my post and then write and post your reply in 57 (FIFTY-SEVEN) seconds - look at the time of my posting and the time your reply was ready - 57 seconds later.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-05-07 20:08:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
Dreamers do tend to be touchy.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:11:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Arator (#0)
Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Just overlook the fact that he is a Marxist, racist, and a friend of a real terrorists. If he can get the evil GOP it is all worth it to you. You are delusional if you think Obama would kill the GOP. Heck, he would make it the dominant party for a very long time.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2008-05-07 20:12:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: buckeye (#11)
It's more likely that he'll be telling them to vote for Holy Joe and McCain.

You could be right, but I know that come October Rush'll tell them to vote for McCain and whoever. I just think it would be hilarious if "whoever" turned out to be the Clintons.
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... posted on 2008-05-07 20:13:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: ... (#15)
I predict that Clinton won't cross party lines, and McCain doesn't have to now.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:14:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Arator (#0)

~~Peace~~ Piss on Obama and all the statist whores like him.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-05-07 20:15:51 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: buckeye (#16)
Yeah, I wasn't really expecting it. I just wanted to read FR the day after Rush came out the with order.
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... posted on 2008-05-07 20:16:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: ... (#18)
If the GOP asked him to support Clinton, he would.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:16:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: buckeye (#1)
Meet the new Rockefeller puppet, same as the old one.

Yeah, and anyone who is older than about 25 or 30 and who still doesn't know that, well, all I can say is they haven't been paying attention.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-05-07 20:18:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: buckeye (#13)
Dreamers do tend to be touchy.

They also hate it when the real world intrudes.
Obama is the perfect President for a 21st century America. All style and no substance. A media creation.
He reminds of a cartoon where a character created advertising for a product that had yet to be created. Soon the whole town wanted it. What did they want, they didn't know. All they knew was they wanted it right then and there.
Heck, I'll make my 2016 prediction right now. Obama will be elected. He'll screw the nation over as has been par for the course. His followers will scream Bush era talking points like "holding is feet to the fire." It won't work. Obama will be re-elected on the requirement that he needs more "D"s in congress to get anything done. Nothing will get done. He'll leave office.
And around 2014 or so we'll see the next media creation empty suit pop up from no-where who is going to save us all. The sheep will latch onto the no name wonder and the process begins again.
Repeat steps until this nation dies from stupidity.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
Pissed Off Janitor posted on 2008-05-07 20:21:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)
It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-05-07 20:22:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Pissed Off Janitor, christine, robin (#21)
My prediction, as well.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:23:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Knowing their lust for power, she just might collude with McKooK to defeat Obama, and then seek the throne in '12.

A reasonable person might regard that possibility as a good reason to support Obama this year.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
aristeides posted on 2008-05-07 20:23:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)
Obama is the perfect President for a 21st century America. All style and no substance. A media creation.

Sounds like a description of that 20th century president JFK.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
aristeides posted on 2008-05-07 20:24:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Arator (#0)
Barak...McCain...Hillary....
Arguing about any of them or their fitness for office is like arguing about kind of whetstone to use to sharpen a sponge.
--- “The only real failure in life is not to be true to the best one knows.” ---
JiminyC posted on 2008-05-07 20:26:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)
Obama, the 'Milli Vanilli' candidate!

Peppa posted on 2008-05-07 20:26:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Arator (#0)
Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".
Vladimir Lenin
noone222 posted on 2008-05-07 20:27:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)
It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart

that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

christine posted on 2008-05-07 20:28:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)
Repeat steps until this nation dies from stupidity.

Wouldn't that be better than having the nation die from aggressive war?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
aristeides posted on 2008-05-07 20:28:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: noone222 (#28) (Edited)
Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?

A very white White man, preferably an albino.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-05-07 20:28:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Jethro Tull, Arator, ALL (#3)
The game goes on, with (some) of us pawns never catching on.

Sad but true.
Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all part of the same agenda.

TwentyTwelve posted on 2008-05-07 20:29:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Peppa (#27)

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".
Vladimir Lenin
noone222 posted on 2008-05-07 20:29:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
Obama has many qualities, of which his best is his not being a Clinton or a freaking Bush. He is intelligent, he seems to be a gentleman and he is not evil. We should always prefer non-evil people to the evil ones.

Great observation. I agree. Obama's upside potential is HUGE. He may prove to be just another puppet, but it wouldn't surprise me if, like Pinnochio, this puppet turned into a real live boy. ;^)
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Arator posted on 2008-05-07 20:29:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: Arator (#34)
Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
aristeides posted on 2008-05-07 20:31:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: christine (#29) (Edited)
It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart
that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

You know, I was just reviewing one of my boys' reading comprehension tests and... speaking of which... I said "It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart". I didn't call anyone 'a Marxist' or 'a Bushbot' or 'a homo-loving socialist/statist'. I only expressed curiosity, directed at no one in particular. Oh, and if my statement wasn't sufficiently clear, when I wonder 'how many', I clearly imply that not ALL phobes are Bushbots at heart. It doesn't even imply that the majority are so.
I do maintain that anyone who keeps claiming that "there's no difference between 'the three'" is most likely intellectually lazy or at least tired, incurious and unimaginative - these are not moral deficiencies and are shortcomings that can be overcome with awareness and some effort.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-05-07 20:34:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Peppa (#27)

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".
Vladimir Lenin
noone222 posted on 2008-05-07 20:34:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: aristeides (#35)
Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.

Iraq is done. He's pro-war in Iran and Pakistan. Name one thing he has uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers? You won't be able to produce one contrary comment. Instead, he has nominated a major Rockefeller intellectual toady, Zbigniew Brzezinski, to his staff.

buckeye posted on 2008-05-07 20:35:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: buckeye (#38)
Name one thing JFK uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers before he became President in 1961.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
aristeides posted on 2008-05-07 20:37:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: aristeides (#30)
Wouldn't that be better than having the nation die from aggressive war?

You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?
Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map.
What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company?
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
Pissed Off Janitor posted on 2008-05-07 20:37:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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