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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
Views: 12730
Comments: 328

He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.

One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens.

Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^)

Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there?

Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?

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I love a good schismatic forum fight....only without the schism. ;^)

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#101. To: Arator (#0)

thanks for your contribution Arator.

Robin had me convinced to at least think about voting for Obama in November. She makes a very logical case showing that Obama has at least made some anti- war sounds and at least promises to bring the troops home from Iraq in 16 months. But Jethro Tull also makes a good case that he is a puppet and he's lying. How we hate to vote for puppets who lie as we've done it before!!!!!

Here's my latest thought that to me is key on Obama. He supports the ethanol subsidies and he supports their expansion as well. The ethanol subsidies are nothing but evil. Richard posted a story about them just a couple of days ago. The ethanol subsidies are going to kill tens of millions of people and that is obvious to anyone who looks carefully at them. As obama supports them, I don't see how I can vote for him.

So now I'm back in the camp that says I won't taint myself by voting for any of the big 3 candidates left. I'll have to write in Ron Paul's name or vote for Chuck Baldwin if he's on the ballot in Arizona.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-07   22:08:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's my latest thought that to me is key on Obama. He supports the ethanol subsidies and he supports their expansion as well. The ethanol subsidies are nothing but evil. Richard posted a story about them just a couple of days ago. The ethanol subsidies are going to kill tens of millions of people and that is obvious to anyone who looks carefully at them. As obama supports them, I don't see how I can vote for him.

Good point. Did any candidate other than Ron Paul oppose ethanol subsidies? With Iowa being the first caucus state, I bet they all sold out to that insanity.

I support Obama not because he is perfect (he's far from it). I support Obama because he and his party are slightly more sane than McCain and the GOP. McCain (and the party who voted for him) are crazy, potentially world- nuking/freedom- extinguishing/economy-collapsing crazy. When one candidate (and party) are that crazy, even a little bit more sanity can mean the difference between the survival of mankind and eminent globe-wide apocolypse. Hence, I cannot risk voting third party this time. The stakes are just too high.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   22:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I support Obama because he and his party are slightly more sane than McCain and the GOP.

I vehemently disagree, Hussein Obama and the Dems who control that party have PROMISED to destroy the Second Amendment. Dismantling any portion of the Bill of Rights is absolute insanity.

X-15  posted on  2008-05-07   22:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I vehemently disagree, Hussein Obama and the Dems who control that party have PROMISED to destroy the Second Amendment. Dismantling any portion of the Bill of Rights is absolute insanity.

In the last election, the Dems got smart and ran pro-2nd amendment candidates in red states...and they won. I don't think the national Dem party is gonna attempt to impose an urban ethos on rural America ever again. They know it is political suicide. They have wised up (while the GOP has dramatically dumbed down).

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   22:39:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In the last election, the Dems got smart and ran pro-2nd amendment candidates in red states...and they won. I don't think the national Dem party is gonna attempt to impose an urban ethos on rural America ever again. They know it is political suicide. They have wised up (while the GOP has dramatically dumbed down).

Obama hasn't wised-up considering he's never owned a firearm, shot a firearm, gone hunting, or done anything except spit on gun-owners the whole time he was an Illinois state politician.

"Obama's Web site says: "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law- abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis ours).

Not, apparently, for you to protect your wife and children." Source: Obama Misfires On Concealed Carry, 4/4/2008, http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp? secid=1501&status=article&id=292204370724337

X-15  posted on  2008-05-07   22:49:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#142. To: X-15 (#139)

"Obama's Web site says: "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law- abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis ours).

Yeah, my firearms are all for hunting and target shooting. /s

FOH  posted on  2008-05-07 22:55:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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