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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
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Comments: 328
He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine. One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens. Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^) Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there? Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power. Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters). Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?
Poster Comment: I love a good schismatic forum fight....only without the schism. ;^)
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#134. To: X-15 (#129)
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In the last election, the Dems got smart and ran pro-2nd amendment candidates in red states...and they won. I don't think the national Dem party is gonna attempt to impose an urban ethos on rural America ever again. They know it is political suicide. They have wised up (while the GOP has dramatically dumbed down).
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Because someone understands that only NeoComms, like your guy BHO, make NeoCons possible...that's all you have is that anyone who calls things how they really are is a partisan for the other side of the cabal's National Party. Are you REALLY this stupid ? *REALLY* ?? Y'all have embraced the curse...fools.
Bite your tongue: "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spin cycle!
I am sorry, but I will NEVER bozolize you. When I wrote that your a great debater I mean it. I love how everything is logical even though intransigent. One thing always leads to another - amazing! - and, overall, I found your writing to be humorous, well-thought, principled, factful and varied. That's what makes you such a great debater and such a pleasure to read. You never been a bushbot. Yes?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Obama hasn't wised-up considering he's never owned a firearm, shot a firearm, gone hunting, or done anything except spit on gun-owners the whole time he was an Illinois state politician. "Obama's Web site says: "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law- abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis ours). Not, apparently, for you to protect your wife and children." Source: Obama Misfires On Concealed Carry, 4/4/2008, http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp? secid=1501&status=article&id=292204370724337
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Spin cycle + Koolaid = one fucked up voter ;-)
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
The Manifesto is divided into an introduction, three substantive sections, and a conclusion. The introduction begins with the notable comparison of communism to a "spectre," claiming that across Europe communism is feared, but not understood, and thus communists ought to make their views known with a manifesto: The first section, "Bourgeois and Proletarians", puts forward Marx's historical materialism, claiming that The section goes on to argue that the class struggle under capitalism is between those who own the means of production, the ruling class or bourgeoisie, and those who labor for a wage, the working class or proletariat. Though the bourgeoisie has played a progressive role in destroying feudalism, according to Marx and Engels, it has also brought about the conditions for its own impending downfall by creating a contradiction within capitalism between the forces of production and the relations of production: However: The second section, "Proletarians and Communists," starts by outlining the relationship of conscious communists to the rest of the working class: It goes on to defend communism from various objections, such as the claim that communists advocate "free love," and the claim that people will not perform labor in a communist society because they have no incentive to work. The section ends by outlining a set of short-term demands. These included, among others, the abolition of both land ownership and of the right to inheritance, a progressive income tax, universal education, centralization of the means of communication and transport under state management, and the expansion of the means of production owned by the state. The implementation of these policies, would, the authors believed, be a precursor to the stateless and classless society. One particularly controversial passage deals with this transitional period: It is this concept of the transition from socialism to communism which many critics of the Manifesto, particularly during and after the Soviet era, have highlighted. Anarchists, liberals, and conservatives have all asked how an organization such as the revolutionary state could ever (as Engels put it elsewhere) "wither away." In a related dispute, later Marxists make a separation between "socialism," a society ruled by workers, and "communism," a classless society. Engels wrote little and Marx wrote less on the specifics of the transition to communism, so the authenticity of this distinction remains a matter of dispute. According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage[5]). The third section, "Socialist and Communist Literature," distinguishes communism from other socialist doctrines prevalent at the time the Manifesto was written. While the harshness of Marx's and Engels' attacks varies, and their debt to "utopian socialists" such as Fourier, Proudhon, and Owen is acknowledged[citation needed], all rival views are eventually dismissed for advocating reformism and failing to recognize the key role of the working class. Partly because of Marx's critique, most of the specific ideologies described in this section became politically negligible by the end of the nineteenth century. The concluding section, "Position of the Communists in Relation to the Various Existing Opposition Parties," briefly discusses the communist position on struggles in specific countries in the mid-nineteenth century. It then ends with a call to action: 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage[5]). Please tell me which of the 10 planks you reject and why...
Yeah, my firearms are all for hunting and target shooting. /s
Spin cycle + Koolaid = one fucked up voter Obama's eliminating the Clinton was a good thing. If he succeeds in getting us out of Iraq alone, it's at least $100 billion that we don't have saved every year and maybe 10,000 young and productive workers who won't die but pay taxes instead and consume like crazy to stimulate the economy. If 'we' get out of the Middle East during your lifetime, then that was part of the plan. The CFR chose this war, they chose McHillObama and they have Globalist wars to fight as long as the people of America continue to play their stupid game. Every time I read someone saying "they're all the same" I think of unbelievable intellectual laziness, lack of imagination and curiosity and/or willing surrender to worthless cliches. Yeah, you ObamaCONs have so much intellectual power harnessed that you've fallen for an Establishment Zbig Marxist Globalist Tool...GENIUS !! Obama has many qualities, of which his best is his not being a Clinton or a freaking Bush. He is intelligent, he seems to be a gentleman and he is not evil. We should always prefer non-evil people to the evil ones. If you're approved by the CFR/Trilats, then you ARE pure evil. Your comments as such make you look stooooopidly-eeeevil...
I'll add that I believe you said you were 'kicked out of' a Marxist nation...which means you of all people should friggin know better.
I am asking because you managed to 'read' my post and then write and post your reply in 57 (FIFTY-SEVEN) seconds - look at the time of my posting and the time your reply was ready - 57 seconds later. buckeye puts you ObamaCONs to shame in the intellect, honesty and comprehension Depts...
No sale, most that I know here have been holding back for festivities should another lucky pretzel get REALLY lodged in the Chimperor's breathing passage...
Buckeye was very polite to wait 57 seconds to call BS ;-)
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
With all the mexicons using Bush's throat for prison-style target practice it'll take a large pretzel to close up that gaping hole...
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
I do find it fascinating how the Establishment operates as I can this time sit back and watch it all from afar...the CFR brands this year are nothing short of bald faced World Socialists and that's being conservative in my description.
heheheh I'm sure he probably scrapped 4 or 5 draft previews on top of it...
Dude, I'm eating a salad over here...LOLOL
LOL...say it ain't so, Arator has joined the ObamaNation!! And he calls himself a "freedom-lover" as he supports the most socialist of the candidates? Puhhh-LEEEZE...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I can't do this anymore. It's like attacking a short yellow bus at this point...
Don't forget the African Union (and all those oil/minerals to be secured)...
Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map. What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company? Damnable facts. Pesky things for libtards, always have been, always will be...
;-) Hehehehehe!!!
People, listen...............
Bwahahahahahaha...Obama/Webb? ROFLMAO...it won't even win Virginia!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, That does not prevent me from opposing further wars. How about under stretch the Army and Marines, bring them ALL home from the various empire bases AND oppose the OWM's wars ? Something tells me you like being the world's MPs...
Zbigniew Brzezinski, the guy who, in hindsight, would fund & train al-Qaeda all over again , (playing the good cop, today), cryptically brags about ‘The Game’ in his keynote address at the Center for American Progress’ : ” We are acting as though the Iraqis are our colonial wards,” he said. “We are teaching them about democracy by arresting them, bombing them, by humiliating them and also helping them. It is an ambivalent course in democracy. ”
People, listen............... You would have thought those who (pretended) to support Ron Paul (and now are Ocons) would have already known this...but then again, we're not dealing with intellectually honest people here.
Sure, like Senator Clinton, Senator Obama can look forward to lengthy terms in the Senate. Neither will EVER be POTUS...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, ~~~~~~~toady~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Webster Tarpley:Zbignew Brzienzki leading Obama campaign PT1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfip0k2Oit8&feature=related ---------------- Webster Tarpley:Zbignew Brzienzki leading Obama campaign PT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvozpwYKuJs&feature=related ---------------- Webster Tarpley:Zbignew Brzienzki leading Obama campaign PT3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu_t9UkLobA
www.propagandamatrix.com/...apitalist_Conspriracy.wmv In The Grand Chessboard, Zbigniew Brzezinski Admits Elite Plan to Use the United States Police State to Bring About Their Totalitarian New World Order.
Zbig, Hankissinger, rockiefellar...evil as evil can be. Evil, evil, evil...
From DeepBlackLies "The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens." Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D., former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner (2001) "The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities." Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Neither will EVER be POTUS...MUD Remember, please hold off on endorsing Juan McNorthAmericanUnion until Halloween, my date in the 4um free pool !
Dear fucking God, at least someone around here understands. Thanks for a day brightener of a thread Arator. Good to see you too.
Agreed. Bozoing helped them hide from addressing facts they can not spin and lies they can not sell.
Thanks for sharing this...it's critical information.
Talk about famous last words, I will feed them to you letter by letter when he is president-elect Obama after the election.
Bozoing helped them hide from addressing facts they can not spin and lies they can not sell. They certainly will give it a few good runs at baffling you with bull, though...
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI vehemently disagree, Hussein Obama and the Dems who control that party have PROMISED to destroy the Second Amendment. Dismantling any portion of the Bill of Rights is absolute insanity.
#135. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#132)
Your a closet bushbot, yes?
#136. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#132)
Your a closet bushbot, yes?
#137. To: Arator (#134)
. I don't think the national Dem party is gonna attempt to impose an urban ethos on rural America ever again. They know it is political suicide. They have wised up
#138. To: FOH (#133)
#139. To: Arator (#134)
In the last election, the Dems got smart and ran pro-2nd amendment candidates in red states...and they won. I don't think the national Dem party is gonna attempt to impose an urban ethos on rural America ever again. They know it is political suicide. They have wised up (while the GOP has dramatically dumbed down).
#140. To: Peppa (#137)
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spin cycle!
#141. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#138)
Contents
Preamble
I. Bourgeois and Proletarians
II. Proletarians and Communists
10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
III. Socialist and Communist Literature
IV. Position of the Communists in Relation to the Various Existing Opposition Parties
#142. To: X-15 (#139)
"Obama's Web site says: "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law- abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis ours).
#143. To: X-15, Peppa (#140)
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spin cycle!
#144. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
#145. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
#146. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
Did you even READ what I wrote before replying to it? Did you THINK about about what I wrote? Have you MEDITATED and ANALYZED the deep wisdom emanating from my writing.
#147. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)
It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart.
#148. To: FOH, buckeye (#146)
#149. To: FOH (#147)
#150. To: TwentyTwelve (#32)
Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all part of the same agenda.
#151. To: X-15, buckeye (#148)
Buckeye was very polite to wait 57 seconds to call BS ;-)
#152. To: X-15 (#149)
With all the mexicons using Bush's throat for prison-style target practice it'll take a large pretzel to close up that gaping hole...
#153. To: Arator (#0)
"Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters)."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#154. To: Arator (#34)
Great observation. I agree. Obama's upside potential is HUGE. He may prove to be just another puppet, but it wouldn't surprise me if, like Pinnochio, this puppet turned into a real live boy. ;^)
#155. To: buckeye (#38)
Iraq is done. He's pro-war in Iran and Pakistan.
#156. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#40)
You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?
#157. To: X-15 (#140)
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spin cycle! Spin cycle + Koolaid = one fucked up voter
#158. To: FOH (#141)
According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage[5]).
#159. To: Fred Mertz (#73)
"I call him James Webb. He'd make the wunder ticket."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#160. To: aristeides (#44)
Personally, as a retired military officer, I want the Army and the Marines expanded. They are presently overstretched.
#161. To: buckeye (#38)
Instead, he has nominated a major Rockefeller intellectual toady, Zbigniew Brzezinski, to his staff.
#162. To: Peppa (#158)
According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage[5]).
#163. To: Arator (#34)
"Obama's upside potential is HUGE."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#164. To: Jethro Tull (#46)
Obama is an original cosponsor of the legislation, which would strengthen the federal government's ability to assist local authorities in the investigation and prosecution of crimes motivated by hate and which would provide additional funds to states to develop hate crime prevention programs. The Act would have also expanded the definition of a hate crime to include those crimes perpetrated because of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity and disability. The amendment originally passed the Senate in September.
#165. To: Peppa (#161)
#166. To: FOH (#162)
#167. To: Peppa (#161)
#168. To: FOH (#167)
#169. To: Mudboy Slim (#163)
Sure, like Senator Clinton, Senator Obama can look forward to lengthy terms in the Senate.
#170. To: Arator (#0)
"He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#171. To: FOH (#162)
we're not dealing with intellectually honest people here.
#172. To: TwentyTwelve (#165)
Webster Tarpley:Zbignew Brzienzki leading Obama campaign
#173. To: Mudboy Slim (#163)
"Neither will EVER be POTUS...MUD"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#174. To: Peppa (#171)
Agreed.
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