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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
Views: 11573
Comments: 328

He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.

One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens.

Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^)

Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there?

Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?


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I love a good schismatic forum fight....only without the schism. ;^)

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#14. To: Arator (#0)

Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Just overlook the fact that he is a Marxist, racist, and a friend of a real terrorists. If he can get the evil GOP it is all worth it to you. You are delusional if you think Obama would kill the GOP. Heck, he would make it the dominant party for a very long time.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-07   20:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye (#11)

It's more likely that he'll be telling them to vote for Holy Joe and McCain.

You could be right, but I know that come October Rush'll tell them to vote for McCain and whoever. I just think it would be hilarious if "whoever" turned out to be the Clintons.

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...  posted on  2008-05-07   20:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ... (#15)

I predict that Clinton won't cross party lines, and McCain doesn't have to now.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Arator (#0)

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Peace Piss on Obama and all the statist whores like him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-07   20:15:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#16)

Yeah, I wasn't really expecting it. I just wanted to read FR the day after Rush came out the with order.

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...  posted on  2008-05-07   20:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ... (#18)

If the GOP asked him to support Clinton, he would.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeye (#1)

Meet the new Rockefeller puppet, same as the old one.

Yeah, and anyone who is older than about 25 or 30 and who still doesn't know that, well, all I can say is they haven't been paying attention.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-07   20:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeye (#13)

Dreamers do tend to be touchy.

They also hate it when the real world intrudes.

Obama is the perfect President for a 21st century America. All style and no substance. A media creation.

He reminds of a cartoon where a character created advertising for a product that had yet to be created. Soon the whole town wanted it. What did they want, they didn't know. All they knew was they wanted it right then and there.

Heck, I'll make my 2016 prediction right now. Obama will be elected. He'll screw the nation over as has been par for the course. His followers will scream Bush era talking points like "holding is feet to the fire." It won't work. Obama will be re-elected on the requirement that he needs more "D"s in congress to get anything done. Nothing will get done. He'll leave office.

And around 2014 or so we'll see the next media creation empty suit pop up from no-where who is going to save us all. The sheep will latch onto the no name wonder and the process begins again.

Repeat steps until this nation dies from stupidity.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-07   20:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pissed Off Janitor, christine, robin (#21)

My prediction, as well.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Knowing their lust for power, she just might collude with McKooK to defeat Obama, and then seek the throne in '12.

A reasonable person might regard that possibility as a good reason to support Obama this year.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

Obama is the perfect President for a 21st century America. All style and no substance. A media creation.

Sounds like a description of that 20th century president JFK.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Arator (#0)

Barak...McCain...Hillary....

Arguing about any of them or their fitness for office is like arguing about kind of whetstone to use to sharpen a sponge.

--- “The only real failure in life is not to be true to the best one knows.” ---

JiminyC  posted on  2008-05-07   20:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

Obama, the 'Milli Vanilli' candidate!

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Arator (#0)

Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".

Vladimir Lenin

noone222  posted on  2008-05-07   20:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)

It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart

that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

christine  posted on  2008-05-07   20:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

Repeat steps until this nation dies from stupidity.

Wouldn't that be better than having the nation die from aggressive war?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: noone222 (#28) (Edited)

Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?

A very white White man, preferably an albino.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull, Arator, ALL (#3)

The game goes on, with (some) of us pawns never catching on.

Sad but true.

Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all part of the same agenda.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   20:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Peppa (#27)

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".

Vladimir Lenin

noone222  posted on  2008-05-07   20:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

Obama has many qualities, of which his best is his not being a Clinton or a freaking Bush. He is intelligent, he seems to be a gentleman and he is not evil. We should always prefer non-evil people to the evil ones.

Great observation. I agree. Obama's upside potential is HUGE. He may prove to be just another puppet, but it wouldn't surprise me if, like Pinnochio, this puppet turned into a real live boy. ;^)

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Arator (#34)

Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#29) (Edited)

It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart

that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

You know, I was just reviewing one of my boys' reading comprehension tests and... speaking of which... I said "It would be interesting to count how many of the current Obamophobes continue to be Bushbots at heart". I didn't call anyone 'a Marxist' or 'a Bushbot' or 'a homo-loving socialist/statist'. I only expressed curiosity, directed at no one in particular. Oh, and if my statement wasn't sufficiently clear, when I wonder 'how many', I clearly imply that not ALL phobes are Bushbots at heart. It doesn't even imply that the majority are so.

I do maintain that anyone who keeps claiming that "there's no difference between 'the three'" is most likely intellectually lazy or at least tired, incurious and unimaginative - these are not moral deficiencies and are shortcomings that can be overcome with awareness and some effort.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Peppa (#27)

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".

Vladimir Lenin

noone222  posted on  2008-05-07   20:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: aristeides (#35)

Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.

Iraq is done. He's pro-war in Iran and Pakistan. Name one thing he has uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers? You won't be able to produce one contrary comment. Instead, he has nominated a major Rockefeller intellectual toady, Zbigniew Brzezinski, to his staff.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeye (#38)

Name one thing JFK uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers before he became President in 1961.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#30)

Wouldn't that be better than having the nation die from aggressive war?

You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?

Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map.

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company?

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-07   20:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: RickyJ (#14)

You are delusional if you think Obama would kill the GOP. Heck, he would make it the dominant party for a very long time.

Amen! That’s what I, and the “Old Right” is counting on.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-07   20:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#40) (Edited)

Israel as our #1 ally in the ME is the current baseline. It's a statement of fact not a forward-looking statement.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Pissed Off Janitor, aristeides (#40)

You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?

Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map.

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#40)

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for?

Personally, as a retired military officer, I want the Army and the Marines expanded. They are presently overstretched.

That does not prevent me from opposing further wars.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: noone222 (#33)

LOL!!! Someone remembered!!

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Arator (#0)

Arator, you are being duped by a big central government, liberal fascist. He is anti-American, and I predict his 1st Executive Order will be to ensure speech, such as mine, will be a crime. Please look beyond the nice guy smile and promises and learn about his political belief system.

SEN. OBAMA ISSUES STATEMENT ON HOUSE-SENATE FAILURE TO STRENGTHEN HATE CRIMES LAWS, GUARANTEE EQUALITY

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The office of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., issued the following statement:

U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) today released the following statement after House and Senate Conferees failed to include the Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act. Obama is an original cosponsor of the legislation, which would strengthen the federal government's ability to assist local authorities in the investigation and prosecution of crimes motivated by hate and which would provide additional funds to states to develop hate crime prevention programs. The Act would have also expanded the definition of a hate crime to include those crimes perpetrated because of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity and disability. The amendment originally passed the Senate in September.

The text of the statement is below:

"The Senate took an important step forward in strengthening current law and fulfilling our nation's founding principle of equality by passing the Hate Crimes Prevention Act in September. While it is imperative that the Congress move this Defense Authorization bill, I am extremely disappointed that House and Senate negotiators failed to include this important provision in the bill being sent to the President.

"Hate crimes are unacceptable. All Americans deserve to live their lives without fear of hate driven attacks. Those who commit such heinous crimes should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, no matter whether those crimes are committed on account of race, gender, gender identity, religion, disability, or sexual orientation.

"Almost 40 years after Congress first enacted a federal hate crimes law, it is our moral obligation to continue striving for equality, and ensure that the federal government, along with state and local jurisdictions, have the tools necessary to effectively prosecute these crimes. Given the rise in hate crimes nationally, failure to pass this vital legislation is truly unacceptable."Contact: Amy Brundage, 202/228-5511.

The Matthew Shepard Act (officially, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007


Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 4/12/2007)      Cosponsors (44)


Related Bills: H.R.1592
Latest Major Action: 4/12/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.


COSPONSORS(44), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Sen Akaka, Daniel K. [HI] - 4/12/2007Sen Bayh, Evan [IN] - 4/12/2007
Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [DE] - 4/12/2007Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] - 4/12/2007
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 4/12/2007Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] - 4/12/2007
Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] - 4/12/2007Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD] - 4/12/2007
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] - 4/12/2007Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] - 4/12/2007
Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] - 4/12/2007Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 4/12/2007Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 4/12/2007Sen Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] - 4/12/2007
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] - 4/12/2007Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 4/12/2007Sen Landrieu, Mary L. [LA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 4/12/2007Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Levin, Carl [MI] - 4/12/2007Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] - 4/12/2007Sen McCaskill, Claire [MO] - 4/12/2007
Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ] - 4/12/2007Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 4/12/2007
Sen Murray, Patty [WA] - 4/12/2007Sen Nelson, Bill [FL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin [NE] - 4/12/2007Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 4/12/2007Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV [WV] - 4/12/2007
Sen Salazar, Ken [CO] - 4/12/2007Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] - 4/23/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 4/12/2007Sen Smith, Gordon H. [OR] - 4/12/2007
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. [ME] - 4/12/2007Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Stabenow, Debbie [MI] - 4/12/2007Sen Webb, Jim [VA] - 9/25/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI] - 4/12/2007Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] - 4/16/2007

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   20:41:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: aristeides (#39)

Name one thing JFK uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers before he became President in 1961.

Irrelevant, even if he had. Did JFK accomplish anything? No. Presidents have been mere puppets for generations. You need to deal with that conundrum first. Obama has never indicated any willingness to fight the puppet masters, nor has he indicated any ability to fight them. JFK certainly had no ability to resist their power.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeye (#47)

Did JFK accomplish anything?

He did bang Marilyn, didn't he? That's no small thing in my book.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeye (#47)

If Obama will be as effective a president as JFK, I'll settle for that. I take it you won't. I think most Americans would agree with me, not you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: noone222 (#28) (Edited)

Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?

I'm hoping that he picks Senator Jim Webb. Webb would have strong appeal with Reagan Democrats, disgusted ex-GOPers and (in general) the Scots-Irish cultural fulcrum upon which America often turns. Where we Scots-Irish go, so goes the nation (see Webb's outstanding book, Born Fighting)!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeye (#38)

Zbigniew Brzezinski on Iraq Chess Piece: We're Done Here. Next? www.take overworld.info/Br...i_on_Iraq_Chess_Piece.mht

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: aristeides (#49)

You'll settle for the continued destruction of our country. And yes, most Americans are brainwashed by the TV. You're suffering from a simple lack of intestinal fortitude. A 68er, no doubt.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#29)

that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

The browbeating will continue till morale improves.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#46)

I predict his 1st Executive Order will be to ensure speech, such as mine, will be a crime.

If it isn't, will you admit that you were wrong?

(By the way, I can't think of a single executive order that criminalized any actions.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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