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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
Views: 11572
Comments: 328

He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.

One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens.

Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^)

Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there?

Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?


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#37. To: Peppa (#27)

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".

Vladimir Lenin

noone222  posted on  2008-05-07   20:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: aristeides (#35)

Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.

Iraq is done. He's pro-war in Iran and Pakistan. Name one thing he has uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers? You won't be able to produce one contrary comment. Instead, he has nominated a major Rockefeller intellectual toady, Zbigniew Brzezinski, to his staff.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeye (#38)

Name one thing JFK uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers before he became President in 1961.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#30)

Wouldn't that be better than having the nation die from aggressive war?

You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?

Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map.

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company?

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-07   20:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: RickyJ (#14)

You are delusional if you think Obama would kill the GOP. Heck, he would make it the dominant party for a very long time.

Amen! That’s what I, and the “Old Right” is counting on.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-07   20:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#40) (Edited)

Israel as our #1 ally in the ME is the current baseline. It's a statement of fact not a forward-looking statement.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Pissed Off Janitor, aristeides (#40)

You think someone who considers Israel our #1 ME priority and Iran one of the greatest threats to world peace is going to stop the slaughter?

Obama loves nation building and has a long list of reasons as to why US 'peace keepers' must be shot to pieces in the name of global stability in places most Americans can't find on a map.

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for? The company?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#40)

What do you think he wants another 60,000 Army and 30,000 Marines for?

Personally, as a retired military officer, I want the Army and the Marines expanded. They are presently overstretched.

That does not prevent me from opposing further wars.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: noone222 (#33)

LOL!!! Someone remembered!!

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Arator (#0)

Arator, you are being duped by a big central government, liberal fascist. He is anti-American, and I predict his 1st Executive Order will be to ensure speech, such as mine, will be a crime. Please look beyond the nice guy smile and promises and learn about his political belief system.

SEN. OBAMA ISSUES STATEMENT ON HOUSE-SENATE FAILURE TO STRENGTHEN HATE CRIMES LAWS, GUARANTEE EQUALITY

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The office of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., issued the following statement:

U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) today released the following statement after House and Senate Conferees failed to include the Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act. Obama is an original cosponsor of the legislation, which would strengthen the federal government's ability to assist local authorities in the investigation and prosecution of crimes motivated by hate and which would provide additional funds to states to develop hate crime prevention programs. The Act would have also expanded the definition of a hate crime to include those crimes perpetrated because of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity and disability. The amendment originally passed the Senate in September.

The text of the statement is below:

"The Senate took an important step forward in strengthening current law and fulfilling our nation's founding principle of equality by passing the Hate Crimes Prevention Act in September. While it is imperative that the Congress move this Defense Authorization bill, I am extremely disappointed that House and Senate negotiators failed to include this important provision in the bill being sent to the President.

"Hate crimes are unacceptable. All Americans deserve to live their lives without fear of hate driven attacks. Those who commit such heinous crimes should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, no matter whether those crimes are committed on account of race, gender, gender identity, religion, disability, or sexual orientation.

"Almost 40 years after Congress first enacted a federal hate crimes law, it is our moral obligation to continue striving for equality, and ensure that the federal government, along with state and local jurisdictions, have the tools necessary to effectively prosecute these crimes. Given the rise in hate crimes nationally, failure to pass this vital legislation is truly unacceptable."Contact: Amy Brundage, 202/228-5511.

The Matthew Shepard Act (officially, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007


Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 4/12/2007)      Cosponsors (44)


Related Bills: H.R.1592
Latest Major Action: 4/12/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.


COSPONSORS(44), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Sen Akaka, Daniel K. [HI] - 4/12/2007Sen Bayh, Evan [IN] - 4/12/2007
Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [DE] - 4/12/2007Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] - 4/12/2007
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 4/12/2007Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] - 4/12/2007
Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] - 4/12/2007Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD] - 4/12/2007
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] - 4/12/2007Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] - 4/12/2007
Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] - 4/12/2007Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 4/12/2007Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 4/12/2007Sen Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] - 4/12/2007
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] - 4/12/2007Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 4/12/2007Sen Landrieu, Mary L. [LA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 4/12/2007Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Levin, Carl [MI] - 4/12/2007Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] - 4/12/2007
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] - 4/12/2007Sen McCaskill, Claire [MO] - 4/12/2007
Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ] - 4/12/2007Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 4/12/2007
Sen Murray, Patty [WA] - 4/12/2007Sen Nelson, Bill [FL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin [NE] - 4/12/2007Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 4/12/2007Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV [WV] - 4/12/2007
Sen Salazar, Ken [CO] - 4/12/2007Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] - 4/23/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 4/12/2007Sen Smith, Gordon H. [OR] - 4/12/2007
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. [ME] - 4/12/2007Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 4/12/2007
Sen Stabenow, Debbie [MI] - 4/12/2007Sen Webb, Jim [VA] - 9/25/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI] - 4/12/2007Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] - 4/16/2007

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   20:41:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: aristeides (#39)

Name one thing JFK uttered against the Federal Reserve, Zionism, or the Rockefellers before he became President in 1961.

Irrelevant, even if he had. Did JFK accomplish anything? No. Presidents have been mere puppets for generations. You need to deal with that conundrum first. Obama has never indicated any willingness to fight the puppet masters, nor has he indicated any ability to fight them. JFK certainly had no ability to resist their power.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeye (#47)

Did JFK accomplish anything?

He did bang Marilyn, didn't he? That's no small thing in my book.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeye (#47)

If Obama will be as effective a president as JFK, I'll settle for that. I take it you won't. I think most Americans would agree with me, not you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: noone222 (#28) (Edited)

Should Obama get elected, (and I don't think he will) whom will be his step and fetchit V.P. ?

I'm hoping that he picks Senator Jim Webb. Webb would have strong appeal with Reagan Democrats, disgusted ex-GOPers and (in general) the Scots-Irish cultural fulcrum upon which America often turns. Where we Scots-Irish go, so goes the nation (see Webb's outstanding book, Born Fighting)!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeye (#38)

Zbigniew Brzezinski on Iraq Chess Piece: We're Done Here. Next? www.take overworld.info/Br...i_on_Iraq_Chess_Piece.mht

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: aristeides (#49)

You'll settle for the continued destruction of our country. And yes, most Americans are brainwashed by the TV. You're suffering from a simple lack of intestinal fortitude. A 68er, no doubt.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#29)

that is SO dumb. we're Paulites at heart and you know that.

The browbeating will continue till morale improves.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#46)

I predict his 1st Executive Order will be to ensure speech, such as mine, will be a crime.

If it isn't, will you admit that you were wrong?

(By the way, I can't think of a single executive order that criminalized any actions.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Arator (#50)

Webb: a former secretary of the Navy and a Viet vet?

Was he one of Kerry's merry swiftboaters?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Arator (#50)

I'm hoping that he picks Senator Jim Webb.

See my #46. Webb if four square for Hate crime legislation. Stop with these frauds.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   20:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

These 68ers WANT hate crime legislation. They crave it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeye (#52)

You'll settle for the continued destruction of our country.

JFK destroyed our country, how?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

He reminds of a cartoon where a character created advertising for a product that had yet to be created. Soon the whole town wanted it. What did they want, they didn't know. All they knew was they wanted it right then and there.

Just like Obama's supporters. When they bend down and grab their ankles he will give it to them, hard and fast.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-07   20:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: aristeides (#58)

That's not what I said, is it?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Arator (#50)

I'm hoping for Jim Webb as well.

I got my naval commission while he was SecNav.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-07   20:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeye (#57)

These 68ers WANT hate crime legislation. They crave it.

And they'll get it with the blessing of former fighters for liberty.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeye (#13)

Dreamers do tend to be touchy.

I usually meditate after my run with scissors day.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: aristeides (#35)

Because, like JFK, Obama belongs to a previously discriminated-against group, he has the potential of thinking beyond what the puppetmasters want.

I have the same feeling about him. He certainly is familiar with radical critiques of American power from far outside elite circles (ala Rev. Wright). That gives him a big headstart towards a JFK-like turn towards independence, IMO.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   20:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

See my #46. Webb if four square for Hate crime legislation. Stop with these frauds.

LePen is going to the slammer for saying a certain event was yes, a point in history.

That was ruled a crime, and off to the gulag he goes.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Peppa, Jethro Tull (#65)

Americans who refuse to kowtow are NEXT. And many of these pro-Obama people will be pleased.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   20:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: noone222 (#37)

What talent! I have to admit, I don't like the pants. I'd rather see Hammerpants. It's an art to wear drapery and pull of the moves.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   20:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeye (#66)

Americans who refuse to kowtow are NEXT. And many of these pro-Obama people will be pleased.

Then it will be their turn.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   21:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Peppa, Buckeye (#65)

LePen is going to the slammer for saying a certain event was yes, a point in history.

And the Os would initially cheer our incarceration or worse, but in time their color, thoughts, religion, or general lack of conformity will also ensnare them. On the bright side, an Obama presidency will make JFKs tenure seem like a lifetime, IMO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   21:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

I think he'll make two terms, and in 2016, people will ask why they voted for Obama seeking a change from the Bush days.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-07   21:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

And the Os would initially cheer our incarceration or worse, but in time their color, thoughts, religion, or general lack of conformity will also ensnare them.

Divide and conquer.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-07   21:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Peppa (#71)

After two months of this argument I'm convinced the idolization of this man is cult-like. No insult to their independence or freedom matters. It's pure Marshall Applegate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-07   21:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Arator (#50)

I call him James Webb.

He'd make the wunder ticket.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-07   21:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Fred Mertz (#73) (Edited)

He'd make the wunder ticket.

Yep, long time foes at the bottom of America's class structure, blacks and hillbilly Scots-Irish whites, united to gut the WASP elites that have screwed us all over so royally.

It's enough to bring a tear to your eye. ;^)

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-07   21:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Arator, jethro tull, rickyj (#0)

Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah

Damn. When I saw the headlie, I thought the scumbag had dropped out of the race. Too bad.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-05-07   21:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#72)

After two months of this argument I'm convinced the idolization of this man is cult-like.

And the CULT is taking over the 4UM. Limiting bozos isn't going to save it.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-05-07   21:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Christine, All (#68)

To: christine, ALL Subject: Re: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah! There was a time when discourse on such a thread as this would have been very limited. It is, however, very clear that few who participate here understand what dire straits this country is in.

For those too young to remember what freedoms we have enjoyed in the past, start paying attention to what choices you have on your ballots. You think we, "the American people", chose those self-serving, ill-intending three to be the last remaining candidates looking to run for President? Hell no, we didn't choose them.

You think we have a two party system in this republic? Hell no, just look at our choices. All three will take us down the same path, at breakneck speed, and in response to their masters' bidding, to either dictatorship or WWIII.

About the only freedoms we possess today is the freedom to die in wars we do not want and the freedom to pay ungodly taxes. Oh, yes, and we have the freedom to vote for those chosen by the powerbrokers. However, tomorrow you may well lose that freedom, too, and be forced to vote for whom you are told.

I suggest all you silly sheep get busy and start using your own brain to ascertain what is happening to this country. AND ... do so before you turn to mutton!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2008-05-07   21:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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