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Title: Three Cheers for Barak Obama! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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Published: May 7, 2008
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2008-05-07 19:38:37 by Arator
Keywords: Obama, Beats, BushClinton
Views: 11388
Comments: 328

He's done what no one expected or thought possible - he's driven a stake through the heart of the Clinton machine.

One crime family down, one to go. Bush-family proxy and crazed neocon Armageddonist, Senator John McCain, should be easy pickens.

Now, what's this I've heard about RP+Obama supporters no longer being entirely welcome by some 4um posters? Say it ain't so! ;^)

Tactical differences should not divide freedom-lovers. We share the same goals. So what if we disagree on how to get there?

Purist non-voters like JT and chrissy would never vote for Obama, even if their abstention results in the neo-fascist GOP remaining unpunished and in power.

Others (like me), find Obama to be an acceptable instrument for unleashing destructive wrath on the contemptable GOP (and their ranks of McCainiacal neo-con apocolypse-lusters).

Such disagreements shouldn't split this good forum. What unites us is far greater than what divides us, right?


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I love a good schismatic forum fight....only without the schism. ;^)

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More Obama WOT stuff....... http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html#4

Campaign Issues

 U.S. Policy toward Africa

Sen. Obama (D-IL), whose father was Kenyan, has been particularly vocal in the Senate on U.S. Africa policy. He has been especially outspoken regarding policy toward Darfur, traveling to the region with Sen. Brownback. He calls for a no-fly zone over Darfur. In 2005, Obama cosponsored the Darfur Peace and Accountability Act. He says he has divested (AP) about $180,000 of his personal financial holdings from Sudan-related stock.

In March 2007, Obama introduced a resolution condemning the government of Zimbabwe for its violence against the opposition. That resolution passed.

With Dodd, Obama cosponsored the March 2007 bill to amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to bolster public health efforts in sub-Saharan Africa. That bill has not yet been voted on. Obama told Vanity Fair that as president, he plans to expand PEPFAR 60;by providing at least $1 billion a year in new money.61;

In February 2008, Obama  called the power-sharing agreement reached between Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki and opposition leader Raila Odinga "a vital step forward," but urged coalition members to "make an enduring commitment to democracy, cooperation and national unity."

Maj. Gen. J. Scott Gration, CEO of Millennium Villages, a project aimed at fighting poverty in Africa, is a national security adviser to Obama's campaign.

 U.S. Policy toward India

The Obama campaign57;s June 2007 memo exposing Clinton57;s ties to India sparked an outcry from the Indian- American community. USINPAC denounced Obama57;s memo as 60;the worst kind of anti Indian American stereotyping.61; Sen. Obama (D-IL) apologized for the memo, which referred to Clinton as 60;Clinton (D-Punjab) 61; (Rediff.com).

Obama voted in favor of the United States-India Energy Security Cooperation Act of 2006.

South Asians for Obama published this list (PDF) of Obama57;s stances on issues of interest to the South Asian community in the United States.

 Military Tribunals and Guantanamo Bay

Sen. Obama (D-IL) says Guantanamo should be closed and habeas corpus (AP) should be restored for the detainees. He says the United States should have 60;developed a real military system of justice that would sort out the suspected terrorists from the accidentally accused.61;

In February 2008, Obama criticized the prosecution of six Guantanamo detainees charged with involvement in the 9/11 attacks. He said the trials are "too important to be held in a flawed military commission system that has failed to convict anyone of a terrorist act since the 9/11 attacks and that has been embroiled in legal challenges" (SFChron). Instead, Obama said, the men should be tried in a U.S. criminal court or by a military court- martial.

Obama voted against the Military Commissions Act.

 Domestic Intelligence

Sen. Obama57;s response to the NSA spying controversy was mixed. On one hand, he opposed the nomination of former NSA chief Michael Hayden to the position of CIA director because of his role in the warrantless wiretapping program and said that he disapproved of Bush57;s avoidance of FISA oversight in the NSA eavesdropping efforts. But on the other hand, like Clinton, Dodd, and Biden, he did not join in Sen. Feingold57;s efforts to censure Bush over the warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens.

Obama opposes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperated in warrantless wiretapping of Americans. "No one should get a free pass to violate the basic civil liberties of the American people," he said in January 2008.Obama did not vote on the FISA Amendments Act in February 2008.

Obama has said he will make the Director of National Intelligence into a position with a fixed term limit " to foster consistency and integrity." (WashPost)

 War on Terror

Sen. Obama (D- IL), like his fellow Democratic candidates, has been critical of the Bush administration57;s policies relating to the war on terror. In a recent Foreign Affairs article, Obama called the Bush57;s response to 9/11 60;conventional thinking of the past, largely viewing problems as state-based and principally amenable to military solutions.61; As a result of the actions taken under the auspices of the war on terror, Obama says, 60;the world has lost trust in our purposes and our principles.61;

Instead, Obama says, U.S. efforts in the Middle East should focus on empowering 60;forces of moderation61; by increasing 60;access to education and health care, trade and investment61; and support for civil society. Like Clinton, Obama says the government57;s priority should be preventing terrorist groups from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

In a August 1 speech, Obama called for a greater counterterrorism focus on Afghanistan and the tribal region of Pakistan. With regards to Pakistan, he indicated that under his leadership, 60;if we have actionable intelligence about high-value targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.61;

 Democracy Promotion in the Arab World

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has said the United States benefits from "the expansion of democracy," and said democratic countries are "our best trading partners, our most valuable allies and the nations with which we share our deepest values." In a March 2008 Washington Post interview, Obama said the United States should work to advance democracy by setting an example and banning torture, extraordinary rendition and by closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay.

Obama has said he would "significantly increase" funding for the National Endowment for Democracy "and other nongovernmental organizations to support civic activists in repressive societies." He also said he plans to start a "Rapid Response Fund for young democracies and post-conflict societies that will provide foreign aid, debt relief, technical assistance and investment packages that show the people of newly hopeful countries that democracy and peace deliver, and the United States stands by them."

Obama favors democracy promotion as a principle of foreign policy (he introduced the DRC Relief, Security and Democracy Promotion Act in 2005). Still, he has generally not framed his rhetoric about the Middle East in terms of democracy promotion. Obama cosponsored the ADVANCE Democracy Act of 2005, which sought to reinforce the U.S. commitment to promoting democracy around the world. That bill would have established 60;Regional Democracy Hubs61; around the world meant to develop and implement strategies to help bring about democratic transitions in non-democratic countries. The bill never passed.

In the summer 2007 issue of Foreign Affairs, Obama said democratic states are better equipped to fight terrorism, stop the spread of weapons, and deal with public health crises. To this end, Obama said as president he would increase foreign aid funding to $50 billion by 2012 and demand reform of corrupt governments. He also said he would 60;capitalize a $2 billion Global Education Fund61; to ensure educated citizens that can contribute to the solidifying of democracy around the world.

 Energy Policy

Speaking in 2006, Obama crit icized (AP) President Bush's energy policy: 60;Saying that America is addicted to oil without following a real plan for energy independence is like admitting alcoholism and then skipping out on the twelve-step program.61; Obama says he will attempt to reduce oil consumption by 7.64 million barrels a day by 2025 from current levels. Obama co-authored the Fuel Economy Reform Act with Biden, among other senators. The act, which has not been passed yet, would make all automobiles manufactured for 2012 meet the fuel economy standard of 27.5 miles per gallon. Obama has also said that he supports tax breaks and loan guarantees for users of clean energy sources like ethanol and blended fuel E85. More controversially, Obama supports the coal-to-liquid (CTL) fuel legislation under consideration in the Senate and the House, even though some experts say CTLs might cause even more carbon dioxide pollution than gasoline. He explained his support for CTLs, saying they 60;will create jobs and lessen our dependence on foreign oil.61; Obama broke ranks from many of his fellow Democratic senators voting for the 2005 Energy Policy Act. he believes that a 60;strong carbon cap61; (Grist) is better than a freeze on development on a particular type of energy.

Obama did not attend the vote on the Renewable Fuels, Consumer Protection, and Energy Efficiency Act of 2007. That bill passed. At a debate on January 15, 2008, Obama said he would support more nuclear power if it could be made cost-efficient and safe, and the waste stored effectively. He noted, if that can be done, "then we should pursue it because what we don't want is to produce more greenhouse gases."

Obama says he would invest $150 billion over 10 years (PDF) toward new alternative energy technology, and to "accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial scale renewable energy, invest in low emissions coal plants, and begin transition to a new digital electricity grid." Obama's energy plan can be viewed here.

 Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has taken a strongly pro-Israel tone in addressing the conflict. In a speech before AIPAC in March 2007, Obama said the United States must 60;strengthen the hands of Palestinian moderates61; and isolate Hamas. Haaretz U.S. correspondent Shmuel Rosner said that before AIPAC, Obama 60;sounded as strong as Clinton, as supportive as Bush, as friendly as Giuliani.61;  

In April 2008, Barack Obama's campaign said he disapproved (ABC News) of former President Jimmy Carter's decision to meet with Hamas officials. Obama "does not support negotiations with Hamas until they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel's right to exist and abide by past agreements," Obama's campaign said. Despite his pledge to hold diplomatic talks with U.S. adversaries without preconditions, Obama called Carter's meeting with Hamas leaders "a bad idea." (Reuters) His campaign statement also indicated that Obama would negotiate directly with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

Obama cosponsored the Palestinian Anti- Terrorism Act of 2006 and, like most of his fellow candidates, has called on the Palestinian leadership to 60;recognize Israel, to renounce violence, and to get serious about negotiating peace and security for the region.61;  

If elected, Obama says he would 60;insist on fully funding military assistance to Israel61; (JPost) and continue to cooperate with Israel on the development of the Arrow missile defense system.

 North Korea Policy

In the July/August 2007 issue of Foreign Affairs, Sen. Obama (D-IL) advocates for developing an 60;international coalition61; to handle nuclear North Korea, calls the Six-Party Talks 60;ad hoc,61; and says he supports 60;sustained, direct, and aggressive diplomacy.61;

Within weeks of Pyongyang57;s nuclear test, Obama appeared on Meet the Press and said the United States had no leverage over North Korea because of Washington57;s refusal to hold bilateral negotiations. He also clarified a passage from his book Audacity of Hope (in which he posed the question 60;Why invade Iraq and not North Korea or Burma?61;) and said he did not consider invading the communist country an option to resolving the nuclear issue.

In May 2005, Obama named North Korea as one of the "biggest proliferation challenges we currently face." Obama has called for the strengthening of the Nuclear Non- Proliferation Treaty so that countries like North Korea "that break the rules will automatically face strong international sanctions."

 Cuba Policy

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has broken with the status quo on U.S. policy toward Cuba. In August 2007, he called for travel and remittance restrictions on Cuban-Americans to be lifted. In an op-ed in the Miami Herald, Obama also said he would engage in bilateral talks with Cuba to send the message that the United States is willing to normalize relations with Cuba upon evidence of a democratic opening there.

In February 2008, Obama called Fidel Castro's resignation "the end of a dark era in Cuba57;s history," and called for a democratic transition there. He said the United States should prepare to "begin taking steps to normalize relations and to ease the embargo of the last five decades." He also urged the "prompt release of all political prisoners" in Cuba.

He has voted twice to cut off TV Marti funding (WashPost).

 U.S. Policy toward China

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has expressed interest in cooperation with China, although he sees the country as a major competitor to the United States. At the April 2007 debate among Democratic candidates, Obama said China is 60;neither our enemy nor our friend. They're competitors. But we have to make sure that we have enough military-to-military contact and forge enough of a relationship with them that we can stabilize the region.61;

In an April 2007 speech before the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Obama said that if elected president, he would 60;forge a more effective regional framework in Asia,61; building on 60;our strong bilateral relations and informal arrangements like the Six-Party Talks61; on North Korea.

Obama has noted the problems with China57;s revaluation of the yuan. He has said that although the United States should maintain a cooperative relationship with China, it should 60;never hesitate to be clear and consistent with China where we disagree52;whether on protection of intellectual property rights, the manipulation of its currency, human rights, or the right stance on Sudan and Iran.61; Obama will cosponsor a bill with Clinton to impose high duties on Chinese goods, intended to pressure China into revaluing its currency (FT).

In March 2008, Obama condemned China's crackdown on protests by Tibetan Buddhist monks. He called on China to respect Tibet's religion and culture, and said China should grant Tibet "genuine and meaningful autonomy." Obama also said the Dalai Lama should be invited to visit China, "as part of a process leading to his return." Obama sent a letter in March 2008 calling on President Bush to urge China to "make significant progress in resolving the Tibet issue." Obama said Bush should press Chinese President Hu Jintao to negotiate with the Dalai Lama about his return to Tibet, to guarantee religious freedom for Tibetans, and to grant Tibet "genuine autonomy." In April 2008, Obama said President Bush should keep the option of boycotting the opening ceremony of the Olympics "firmly on the table." He said President Bush should decide to attend based on whether China takes "steps to help stop the genocide in Darfur and to respect the dignity, security, and human rights of the Tibetan people."

Obama has expressed support for the "one China" policy. In March 2008, Obama congratulated Taiwanese President-elect Ma Ying-jeou on his electoral victory, and said the government of China should respond to the election "in a positive, constructive, and forward-leaning way." He also said China should "demonstrate to the people of Taiwan that the practical and non-confrontational approach that President-elect Ma promises to take toward the Mainland will be met with good faith and progress." He called on China to build confidence with Taiwan by reducing its military deployment in southeast China, and to "allow Taiwan greater international space" in the World Health Organization. 

Former Ambassador Jeffrey Bader, the Clinton administration's National Security Council Asia specialist, is a national security adviser to Obama's campaign. Bader is now the head of Brookings's John L. Thornton China center.

 Defense Policy

In a speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs in April 2007, Sen. Obama (D-IL) advocated the expansion of the military to include an additional sixty-five thousand army soldiers and twenty-seven thousand marines. He also called for an increase in the number of Arabic speakers in the military.

In Obama57;s 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream, he wrote, 60;It's time we acknowledge that a defense budget and force structure built principally around the prospect of World War III makes little strategic sense.61;
As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama introduced the Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006. That act, which was incorporated into the Department of State Authorities Act of 2006 and signed into law, allows for the destruction of surplus and unsecured weapons, which Obama said 60;make attractive targets for terrorists.61;

In October 2007, Obama said private security contractors like Blackwater USA should not be "rogue militia, roaming the country shooting without justification and without consequences." He called for increased accountability for contractors and wrote in an op-ed in the Chicago Sun- Times. that U.S. "national interests are threatened when these companies act on the country's behalf without having to answer to Americans. Instead of winning the hearts and minds of Iraqis, we've made them angry and possibly fueled support for the counterinsurgency that is keeping us stuck in Iraq."

As Obama was elected in 2004, he does not have a voting record on military operations in the Gulf War, Kosovo, or in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. He has been critical of the war in Iraq, but was not yet in office at the time that the Iraq War resolution was passed.

 Iraq

Sen. Obama (D-IL) writes in Foreign Affairs that the United States needs to move beyond Iraq and 60;refocus our attention on the broader Middle East.61; One of the few presidential candidates who opposed the war (PDF) from the start, he says there is 60;no military solution61; to the situation in Iraq. In January 2007, Obama proposed the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007, which would reverse the troop surge and redeploy U.S. troops to Afghanistan and other locations in phases. He favors more funds for U.S. military equipment like night-vision goggles and reinforced Humvees, though his recent refusal to sign a war funding bill came under criticism from presidential aspirant John McCain (R-AZ), who, among other things, accused the senator of misspelling "flak jacket." Under Obama's plan, there may be a residual troop presence (NYT) in Iraq for security and training purposes. His bill has not yet been voted on.

In September 2007, Obama released his plan (PDF) to "responsibly end the war in Iraq," calling for a complete redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2009, starting immediately. He also advocates a UN-led Iraqi constitutional convention in order to forge national reconciliation and to reach compromises on federalism, oil revenue sharing, and "de-Ba'athification." As president, Obama says he would establish an "international working group" to solve the Iraqi refugee crisis.

Obama opposes the establishment of permanent U.S. military bases (USA Today) in Iraq.

Obama opposes Defense Secretary Robert Gates' plan to "pause" U.S. troop withdrawal (CNN) from Iraq in July 2008. In February 2008, Obama said he "strongly" disagrees with Gates' proposal, and warned against waging "war without end in Iraq while ignoring mounting costs to our troops and their families, our security and our economy."

 Trade

Sen. Obama (D-IL) generally supports free trade policies, though like many of his fellow Democratic candidates, he has expressed concern about free trade agreements that do not include labor and environmental protections. In a February 2008 speech at the General Motors plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, Obama said he "will not sign another trade agreement unless it has protections for our environment and protections for American workers."

Obama has called NAFTA a "bad" trade deal. In an August 2007 Democratic debate, Obama said he would meet with the Canadian and Mexican heads of state to 60;try to amend NAFTA,61; saying the agreement 60;should reflect the principle that our trade should not just be good for Wall Street, but should also be good for Main Street61; (see video).

In a February 2008 Democratic debate, Obama said he would "make sure that we renegotiate" NAFTA and use "the hammer of a potential opt-out" of NAFTA as leverage to ensure enforceable labor and environmental protections.

Still, in February 2008, Obama said he does not think "it's realistic for us to repeal NAFTA," because that could lead to "more job loss ... than job gains." (ABC)

Obama voted to approve the 2006 FTA with Oman. He opposed CAFTA, however, explaining in 2005, 60;It does less to protect labor than previous trade agreements, and does little to address enforcement of basic environmental standards in the Central American countries and the Dominican Republic.61; Obama did not vote on the 2007 Peru FTA, but expressed support for the deal (AP).

In a March 2008 speech, Obama said he would oppose a free trade agreement with Columbia, because "the violence against unions in Colombia would make a mockery of the very labor protections that we have insisted be included in these kinds of agreements." Obama has also criticized the U.S.-South Korea FTA, which he said is "bad for American workers."

Obama has criticized China for manipulating its currency, and in June 2007 urged Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to take action against China. "At least partially as a result of the Administration57;s failure to address Chinese currency manipulation, the U.S. imported more than $232 billion in goods from China than we sold to it last year," he wrote.

In March 2008, Obama praised the passage of the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) Reform Act, which requires that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) examine the CPSC's monitoring of goods imported to the United States, and make recommendations to improve safety and regulation. "We must ensure that the CPSC has every tool available to effectively regulate imported products in today's global marketplace and protect our most vulnerable citizens from dangerous products," Obama said.

 Homeland Security

Obama, who sits on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, has been a critic of how federal homeland security funding has been handled. He has also been critical of the Patriot Act, but he voted to adopt a conference report to reauthorize it in 2006.

Obama cosponsored the SAFE Act of 2005.

In February 2007, Obama cosponsored the Risk-Based Homeland Security Grants Act and has been a steady advocate of risk-based funding for homeland security. In a 2006 podcast, Obama criticized the Homeland Security Appropriations bill, saying, 60;you would want to give more protection to the Empire State Building or the Golden Gate Bridge than you would want to provide to a Home Depot somewhere in downstate Illinois that is probably not on any terrorist hit list. Unfortunately, what we57;re seeing is that Congress is more focused on political handouts than strategic funding.61; In March 2006, Obama cosponsored the Chemical Security and Safety Act, which sought to increase chemical plant security. Also in 2006, Obama voted for the FEMA Amendment, which failed.

In April 2008, Obama sent a letter asking the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Assistant Secretary Kip Hawley to "address recent reports of possible security vulnerabilities" at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. Obama expressed particular concern about the possibility that terrorists could impersonate law officers by obtaining TSA uniforms.

 Iran

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has expressed support for 60;opening dialogue61;with Iran, in part to ask for its assistance in 60;playing a more constructive role in Iraq.61; Obama has said Iran's nuclear ambitions represent a "serious threat to the United States, to our ally Israel and to international security."

Obama said in a March 2007 speech before AIPAC that he supports 60;tough sanctions61; on Iran to compel it to stop its uranium enrichment program. In the same speech, he said that he 60;does not believe that the use of military force towards Iran should be ruled out (Chicago Sun-Times). Still, in an April 2007 presidential debate, Obama said, 60;I think it would be a profound mistake (NYT) for us to initiate a war with Iran.61; The Senator hardened his position on this point following the NIE release. During a debate in Iowa on December 4 Obama accused President Bush of not letting 60;facts get in the way of his ideology61; in dealing with Iran, and said the Bush administration57;s saber-rattling and threats of war 60;should have never started61; (NPR).

Obama has repeatedly said he would engage Iran in "tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions." In a February 2008 Democratic debate, Obama said it is "important for the United States not just to talk to its friends but also to talk to its enemies," including Iran. Obama has also said the United States should consider offering the incentive of World Trade Organization membership for Iran if it abandons its nuclear program. 

In March 2008, Obama praised the UN Security Council's resolution to up pressure on Iran for its nuclear program. Still, Obama said, the resolution "represents a lowest common denominator because Russia and China did not agree to tougher sanctions."

In May 2007, Obama sponsored the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act, which would authorize state and local governments to divest from Iran's petroleum sector, protecting fund managers who divest from lawsuits. That bill has not reached a vote.

 U.S. Policy toward Russia

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has said Russia is 60;neither our enemy nor close ally,61; and said the United States 60;shouldn57;t shy away from pushing for more democracy, transparency, and accountability61; there. He has focused much of his discussion of Russia on diminishing the possibility of nuclear weapons use. In a July 2007 Foreign Affairs article, Obama said the United States and Russia should collaborate to 60;update and scale back our dangerously outdated Cold War nuclear postures and de-emphasize the role of nuclear weapons.61; In an October 2007 speech in Chicago, Obama said if elected he would work to 60;take U.S. and Russian ballistic missiles off hair-trigger alert, and to dramatically reduce the stockpiles of our nuclear weapons and material.61; He said he would seek a 60;global ban on the production of fissile material for weapons61; and an expansion of 60;the U.S.-Russian ban on intermediate-range missiles.61;

In 2005, Obama traveled with Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) to nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. Obama and Lugar then introduced legislation to eliminate nuclear stockpiles throughout the former Soviet Union. That law was enacted in 2007.

Obama has called Russia's April 2008 move to seek closer ties with Georgian the secessionist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia "deeply troubling and contrary to Russia's obligations as a permanent member of the UN Security Council."

 Climate Change

Obama views climate change as an "epochal, man- made threat to the planet" (Foreign Affairs) and vows to lead an international coalition to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Obama has said he will try to ensure (PDF) "that our nation's environmental laws and policies balance America's need
for a healthy, sustainable environment with economic growth."

Obama has called for a market- based cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions. He has said that if he is elected he would invest $150 billion over ten years to advance clean energy technology. He has also said he would doubly increase fuel economy standards within 18 years by providing tax credits and loan guarantees for U.S. auto plants and parts manufacturers for building more fuel efficient cars.

Obama cosponsored the Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act of 2007, which would establish a 60;Climate Change Credit Corporation61; to manage tradeable allowances and stimulate the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. That bill has not yet been voted on. With Hillary Clinton, Obama recently signed on as a cosponsor of the Global Warming Pollution Reduction Act. Obama's proposals for climate change can be viewed here.

 Immigration

Sen. Obama (D- IL), the son of a Kenyan immigrant, has spoken out on immigration and voted on numerous immigration bills since taking office in January 2005. Obama, whose Illinois constituents include a high percentage of Mexican immigrants, voted against the English as a National Language Amendment in 2006. Obama proposed three amendments that were included in the Senate Immigration Reform Bill last year, including one that mandates that jobs be offered to American workers at a 60;prevailing wage61; before they are offered to guest workers. Another of these amendments makes it a requirement that employers are able to prove that their workers are all legally permitted to work in the United States. His third amendment grants the FBI $3 million a year to improve efficie ncy for background checks on immigrants applying for citizenship. Obama has also called for sweeping amnesty for illegal immigrants. However, he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

Obama opposed an amendment to the Senate immigration reform bill of June 2007 that would prevent immigrants with a criminal record from gain ing legal status (AP).

Obama supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, and has called it a "public safety concern."

 United Nations

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has repeatedly said that the United Nations should play a key role in managing crises like Darfur. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama voted against the Bolton nomination. His comments during those hearings provide a sense of his stance on the United Nations, including the need for reform: 60;Countries such as Zimbabwe and Burma, and others that do not want to see reform take place at the UN, are going to be able to dismiss our efforts at reform by saying: Mr. Bolton is a UN basher, someone who is ideologically opposed to the existence of the UN52;thereby using Mr. Bolton's own words and lack of credibility as a shield to prevent the very reforms that need to take place.61;

 U.S. Policy toward Pakistan

Pakistan first achieved notoriety in the presidential campaign in summer 2007 when Obama said he believed the United States should hunt al- Qaeda forces in Pakistan. 60;If we have actionable intelligence about high- value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will,61; he said at the time. During his 2004 Senate campaign, Obama also said he would consider military action in Pakistan to destroy nuclear weapons there should Musharraf be overthrown in a coup d57;état.

In November 2007, Obama cosponsored a resolution condemning Musharraf57;s imposition of a state of emergency, and calling for an investigation into a prior assassination attempt on Bhutto.

 Nuclear Nonproliferation

Sen. Obama (D-IL) has said the United States should seek 60;a world in which there are no nuclear weapons.61; But he said in an October 2007 speech he does not believe the United States should pursue unilateral nuclear disarmament. 60;As long as nuclear weapons exist, we57;ll retain a strong nuclear deterrent,61; he said. If elected, he says he will seek 60;a global ban on the production of fissile material for weapons,61; as well as an expansion of the U.S.- Russian intermediate-range missile ban. He also says he will 60;strengthen the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty so that nations that don't comply will automatically face strong international sanctions.61;

Obama says if elected he will make ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty a priority. Though he says the United States should 60;lead the international effort to deemphasize the role of nuclear weapons around the world,61; he has stopped short of opposing the building of a new Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW). Instead, he said he is against (PDF) a 60;premature61; decision to build an RRW .

In August 2005, Obama traveled with Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) to nuclear and biological weapons destruction facilities in the former Soviet Union, where they urged the destruction of conventional weapons stockpiles. With Lugar, Obama introduced the Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act, which passed as part of the Department of State Authorities Act of 2006.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Jethro Tull (#287)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: ghostdogtxn (#290)

LOL. You are SO twisting in the wind right now.

:P

Lightweight.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Jethro Tull (#289)

Sen. Obama (D-IL) says Guantanamo should be closed and habeas corpus (AP) should be restored for the detainees. He says the United States should have 60;developed a real military system of justice that would sort out the suspected terrorists from the accidentally accused.61

A 'real military system of justice that would sort out the suspected terrorists from the accidentally accused.'

Hmmm.. wonder what that means.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-08   16:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: Jethro Tull (#291)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: ghostdogtxn (#290)

Maybe his beating around the bushbots like you instead of bushbotwhacking.

This is for you, from the god of lyrical dances:

On Preston platform
do your soft shoe shuffle dance.
Brush away the cigarette ash that's
falling down your pants.
And you sadly wonder
does the nurse treat your old man
the way she should.
She made you tea,
asked for your autograph
what a laugh.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-08   16:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: ghostdogtxn (#293)

Hell, I love this stuff. Even tho the point on your head is sharper than your wit, the activity is good for the forum.......so.......continue please..... (cheese eater)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: Jethro Tull (#295)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, aristeides, ..., angle, Lodwick, all... (#294)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: ghostdogtxn (#296)

That's hitting below the belt

No, no, no......the cheese you munch has nothing to do with the wonderful state of Wisconsin.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Jethro Tull (#298)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: ghostdogtxn (#297)

Go ahead, chief, by all means make your case.

Well... you can be all you can be, if you catch my meaning. And all you can be is either a bushbot or an oxymoronic perv. Which want would you rather be?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-08   16:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#300)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: Jethro Tull (#271) (Edited)

If Obama were white, his support here would be ZERO

Since we have some McCain supporters here too, I don't think that's quite true. Obama's race is actually the LEAST of his problems, as far as I'm concerned.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-08   16:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#302)

Since we have some McCain supporters here too

Point well taken.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: ghostdogtxn (#299)

Yeah, those pesky Badgers. I dread that team in the Fall. Not because of the unexpected, but b/c they are always the same; big, mean and usually good. We're at Madison for a night game this October and I won't be betting with my heart.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   16:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: Jethro Tull (#304)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-08   16:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Old Friend (#256)

s it true that those druids and wiccans have orgies and weird sex? That they sacrifice babies and drip the blood over everyone in the orgy?

I just saw the Christian Loon Party thread. Now I understand where you are coming from.

No, these people were not fundies like you, so like Catholics, Methodists, Unitarians, Hindus and Buddhists, they all worship Satan - or at least as far as you're concerned they do.

(And people wonder why the founding fathers put the First Amendment, which erects a wall between fundie Christian lunacy the state, as the first and most important amendment. Jefferson saw you guys coming.)

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   17:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Mudboy Slim (#262)

When is the last time you voted for a WINNER in a Presidential election, James?

A very, very long time ago. And if I had it to do over I would have written someone in rather than voting for that "winner."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-08   18:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: ghostdogtxn, the thread (#299)

One thing I noticed about all these picturesque Wisconsin small towns was how CLEAN they all were. Like postcard clean, amazingly clean. I've been lots and lots of places around the US and I never saw anything like it anywhere else.

My generalized observation is that there is a very direct correlation between COLD and clean...with a few notable exceptions.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-08   18:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Mudboy Slim (#262) (Edited)

If voting for a winner is the be all and end all, why didn't you just go ahead and vote for Clinton in 1992 and 1996? You must have known that the odds were in his favor.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-08   18:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: James Deffenbach (#307)

A very, very long time ago. And if I had it to do over I would have written someone in rather than voting for that "winner."

The Dick?

Lod  posted on  2008-05-08   18:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: lodwick (#310)

Mine was The Dick, but my heart was with Wallace.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08   18:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: Jethro Tull. the thread (#311)

We all know what happened to George, once his campaign started gaining traction with the people...it's sad what has happened to our country.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-08   18:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: lodwick (#310)

The Dick?

Yeah. Didn't much care for the guy and have never voted for any establishment clown since then.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-08   18:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: James Deffenbach (#313)

Didn't much care for the guy and have never voted for any establishment clown since then.

Like many of us here, I'll cop to pulling the lever for smirk '00.

What a fool.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-08   19:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: lodwick (#314)

Like many of us here, I'll cop to pulling the lever for smirk '00.

What a fool.

He fooled a lot of people. The important thing is that you woke up. I don't think there are nearly enough to elect him for a third term (if the Constitution allowed it), but there are probably 15 or 20% of the people who would give that cs another term. And that is sad.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-08   19:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: James Deffenbach (#315)

...but there are probably 15 or 20% of the people who would give that cs another term. And that is sad.

Jesus told us that the poor would be with us alway, I just wish that he'd spelled out more clearly the rapture monkey/ziocon/nutters in more detail for us. Clearly (to me) these people are not of the Lord, or His calling.

Stay safe, and armed.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-08   21:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: ... (#306)

which erects a wall between fundie Christian lunacy the state

The first amendment does no such thing.

The first amendment forbids CONGRESS from having a state religion. There is no such prohibition for the states to do such. In fact there were state religions in the past. Back when better people ran this country.

Having said that. I wouldn't want any church to run the government. To many churches get to many things wrong. Besides you can't and shouldn't force Jesus on anyone. You should tell people but you can't force them to accept the truth.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-08   21:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Old Friend (#317) (Edited)

The first amendment does no such thing.

Thomas Jefferson said it did, and so did the Supreme Court.

And you don't have to take my word for it. Google "wall between church and state" and the first two links give your the Jefferson letter and the relevant Supreme Court ruling.

But thank you for sharing your opinion.

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   21:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: ... (#318)

Ok lets make it simple. I will post it.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It says Congress not states. It says congress also can't prohibit free exercise of it. NOTICE THE "OR". So it is in the same context as abridging free speech or of the press, peacably assemble or petition the government.

Tell me where the authority in the constitution is for the Supreme court to change the meaning of the constitution?

Thomas Jefferson was our best president in my opinion. However Thomas Jeffersons opinions are not the constitution. And what you attribute as his opinion is in error.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-08   21:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: Old Friend (#319)

It says Congress not states. It says congress also can't prohibit free exercise of it.

Marberry-vs-Madison.

Read it before you try to fob off this very old, and very discredited spin that your pastor has apparently fobbed off on you guys.

And don't tell me that it isn't right because you disagree with it. If you don't respect the American system, then move to Afghanistan where religious kooks operate outside the law.

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   21:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: ... (#320)

Marberry vs Madison was a power grab. The supreme court can't give themselves power legitimately.

Nice try. lol

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-08   21:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: Old Friend (#321) (Edited)

Marberry vs Madison was a power grab. The supreme court can't give themselves power legitimately.

Nice try. lol

Now that you've read preliminary case, and you see how the Supreme Court has the power to do what it did, read these:

Establishment of Religion: Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947).

Free Exercise of Religion: Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940)

Your "Feds Don't Control the States" argument doesn't fly. But I think you already know that. You just don't want us to know that.

And again, your hatred and disrespect for our American system doesn't negate the fact that this is the law of the land. And we are talking about what the law is, not what you. some other fundie kook or some Taliban thinks it ought to be.

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...  posted on  2008-05-08   22:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: ... (#322)

And again, your hatred and disrespect for our American system doesn't negate the fact that this is the law of the land.

That's the dumbest thing I have heard all day. You get the stupid award for the day.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-09   0:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: lodwick (#316)

Jesus told us that the poor would be with us alway, I just wish that he'd spelled out more clearly the rapture monkey/ziocon/nutters in more detail for us. Clearly (to me) these people are not of the Lord, or His calling.

Stay safe, and armed.

Well gosh, I guess you got me there. I believe there will be a rapture but I don't believe that makes me nuts (but I don't argue about religion either and don't set any dates for it). I do agree with you that many of the people who claim they are messengers of God are not and when you hear people call for the destruction of the innocent or teach that we should go to war without justifiable reasons, they are not God's messengers. Human nature being what it is, some of them are in it for the money. But you can be sure that God knows who his messengers are and who are not and will deal with them accordingly.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-09   8:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: James Deffenbach (#324)

Human nature being what it is, some of them are in it for the money. But you can be sure that God knows who his messengers are and who are not and will deal with them accordingly.

The last thing that we were told was to go and preach, not to go and kill.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-09   9:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: Old Friend (#317)

I wouldn't want any church to run the government. To many churches get to many things wrong. Besides you can't and shouldn't force Jesus on anyone. You should tell people but you can't force them to accept the truth.

Well said, Old Friend.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-09   9:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: lodwick (#325)

The last thing that we were told was to go and preach, not to go and kill.

Yes. Mark 16:15

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-09   9:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: Mudboy Slim (#264)

F.O.H.

Friend of Hillary.

Wrong NAUbot, it's Felipe Othello Hartnet...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-09   10:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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