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Title: I’m beginning to think McCain will be less dangerous to my freedom than Obama
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Published: May 8, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-05-08 07:57:19 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 12702
Comments: 195

As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama.

Obama, like McCain, offers endless war, so their foreign policy is a draw. In fact I give points to McCain for his honest 100 year comment. Obama’s nutty obsession to hunt down al Qaeda, a creation of the US government, was all I needed to know about his foreign policy. His speech to AIPAC was the cap stone.

On the domestic front, both are awful, but Obama is much worse on guns. His dalliance with Black Theology is equally bad news. One look at the over animated Jeremiah Wright should be enough to convince white America that an influence like him will bring us additional layers of affirmative action, political correctness and slavery reparations. And did I mention Michelle Obama? She reeks of nasty and racism. The only plus Obama would bring is a potential white backlash, which is long over due.

There's lots more, but this is a starting point.

Let the discussion begin.

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#32. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama.

So, you're not just a purist non-voter? You're actually an active promoter of rapacious corporate criminality, freedom-extinguishing police-state thuggery and mass murder for fun and profit?

JT, you've gone over the bend, my friend. Have you had too many years of beating darkies down for the man in NYC to overcome your apparent auto-gag- reflex towards the prospect of a black president? I can't figure out any other reason why you could possibly support the continuation of the current criminal/fascist regime.

As for your "analysis", it's fantastical.

1) Obama has promised to get our troops out of Iraq within his first 16 months in office. This sets him apart from the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. He has taken heat from the warmongering media over this, but he has not backed away. Score 1 for Obama.

2) Under Obama, the war is less likely to expand. Unlike the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly, Obama has emphasized talking with rather than obliterating Iran. Score 1 for Obama (and humanity).

3) Obama has decried the police state fascism of the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. Under Obama, Gitmo (and the black site torture centers) are more likely to be closed, and fundamental rights restored. Score 1 for Obama.

These three reasons alone are enough to make Obama far superior to the fascist freakshow that is the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. But you want more of the same? I guess fascist tyranny is OK for you just so long as the darkies are kept down (along with everyone else) in the process.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-08   9:01:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: Arator, Jethro Tull, peppa, cynicom, christine (#32)

...you're not just a purist non-voter?

You're actually an active promoter of rapacious corporate criminality, freedom-extinguishing police-state thuggery, and mass murder for fun and profit?

Looks that way.

angle  posted on  2008-05-08 09:08:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Arator (#32)

1) Obama has promised to get our troops out of Iraq within his first 16 months in office. This sets him apart from the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. He has taken heat from the warmongering media over this, but he has not backed away. Score 1 for Obama.

2) Under Obama, the war is less likely to expand. Unlike the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly, Obama has emphasized talking with rather than obliterating Iran. Score 1 for Obama (and humanity).

3) Obama has decried the police state fascism of the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. Under Obama, Gitmo (and the black site torture centers) are more likely to be closed, and fundamental rights restored. Score 1 for Obama.

Arator, personal attack aside, your points above are based on promises and hope offered by a politician. You know better, but his race alone is the reason, IMO, that you have looked past his 9-11 beliefs, his promise of an expanded WOT against al CIAda, and his love of large central government (read socialism)

Shelby Steele might assuage your guilt, but then again, some of us are lost to the System.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-08 09:22:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Arator (#32)

3) Obama has decried the police state fascism of the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. Under Obama, Gitmo (and the black site torture centers) are more likely to be closed, and fundamental rights restored. Score 1 for Obama.

thats a very good point. I understand Obama recently sponsored legislation that would bring some positive changes in Guantanamo. But hasn't Obama voted for other police-state legislation? Patriot Act? Military Commissions Act? I mean if he voted agaisnt Military Commissions Act, then that would speak positively of him.

But as the others say Obama speaks very enthusiastically about tracking down terrorists and expanding the Afghan war. he's not on our side.

Here's another angle to look at Obama. He doesn't really have strong blood ties to our country. His mother was American. But his father was not. I know that Hilary & McCain are both disloyal to our country. But with Obama being weak on his blood ties to our country, that speaks negatively of him. When electing a president, we should not elect someone without the blood ties.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-08 09:49:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Arator (#32)

I guess fascist tyranny is OK for you just so long as the darkies are kept down (along with everyone else) in the process.

A western country can survive fascism. It can't survive darkies.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-05-08 11:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Arator (#32)

1) Obama has promised to get our troops out of Iraq within his first 16 months in office. This sets him apart from the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. He has taken heat from the warmongering media over this, but he has not backed away. Score 1 for Obama.

2) Under Obama, the war is less likely to expand. Unlike the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly, Obama has emphasized talking with rather than obliterating Iran. Score 1 for Obama (and humanity).

3) Obama has decried the police state fascism of the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. Under Obama, Gitmo (and the black site torture centers) are more likely to be closed, and fundamental rights restored. Score 1 for Obama.

But this is negated by two factors: (1) Obama doesn't have an (R) after his name, and (2) Obama is a coloured guy.

I think that these two points are what is important to a lot of people.

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#113. To: Arator (#32)

You're actually an active promoter of rapacious corporate criminality, freedom-extinguishing police-state thuggery and mass murder for fun and profit?

Arator, wake up. Obama would make Bush look like a saint. Please step away from the TV and come back to reality.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-08 14:18:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Arator (#32)

Obama has promised
Obama has emphasized talking
Obama has decried

Obama is a freakin' politician. Do you really believe everything he says? You sound like one of those "true believers" but you used to know--at least I thought you did--that you couldn't trust politicians. There was only one decent guy running and that wasn't Obama. But then Ron Paul is a statesman, not a politician.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-08 15:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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