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Title: I’m beginning to think McCain will be less dangerous to my freedom than Obama
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Published: May 8, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-05-08 07:57:19 by Jethro Tull
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As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama. Obama, like McCain, offers endless war, so their foreign policy is a draw. In fact I give points to McCain for his honest 100 year comment. Obama’s nutty obsession to hunt down al Qaeda, a creation of the US government, was all I needed to know about his foreign policy. His speech to AIPAC was the cap stone. On the domestic front, both are awful, but Obama is much worse on guns. His dalliance with Black Theology is equally bad news. One look at the over animated Jeremiah Wright should be enough to convince white America that an influence like him will bring us additional layers of affirmative action, political correctness and slavery reparations. And did I mention Michelle Obama? She reeks of nasty and racism. The only plus Obama would bring is a potential white backlash, which is long over due. There's lots more, but this is a starting point. Let the discussion begin.
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#53. To: ghostdogtxn (#52)
I didn't even make the law review at Yale Law School, even though I had very high grades.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Yes, and another reason why the Obama's Global Tax is outrageous! It subsidizes governments like Mugabe's. IOW Genocide. Obama: Fought the ban on Partial Birth Abortion. Believes in social justice, which is jargon for reparations. This is an angry man. A lot of hatred wrapped up in one man.
Calling the Bushes, or any gang of crooked politicians "public servants" reminds me of how Subway calls its employees "Sandwich Artists."
Obama wants to expand operations in Afghanistan, which is a stupid idea, but it won't be nearly as costly in money and lives as an all-out invasion of Iran. Plus Mad Mac is chomping at the bit to start a war with Russia or China. So on foreign policy, McCain is the worst of the lot, hands down, with Hillary the runner-up. You might be right that he'll cause less damage at home, but I'm not even sure about that. McCain and Obama are on the same page when it comes to immigration, affirmative action, and just about everything else. Not voting for either is the only right move that I can see.
I don't know, the logic seems shaky to me: 1. McCain clearly states that he will do A, B and C. 2. A, B and C are bad for us. 3. Obama is a politician, so I "know" he will do the same, even though he's shown no inclination towards it so far. 4. Therefore we are better off with McCain. Obama hasn't danced around and promised to "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" or stated that he's willing to fight in Iraq for 100 years. So at this point I am inclined to take the unknown over the certain problem.
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Isn't that sort of like saying that "Believes in religion" is jargon for "worships Satan"? Both terms can have connotations beyond the radioactive smear.
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Both terms can have connotations beyond the radioactive smear. I don't know, is that what you think of religion? A religion that preaches hatred has lost it's way. And I'd think its a great idea to call BS on all that do. So, have at it.
You may be right. But blackface is an unfairly denigrated theatrical tradition.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
I think he's talking about you, JT.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
Good point. He doesn't clarify if the eeeeeeevil terrorists are domestic or foreign. And with his support for hate laws, that would definitely endanger me....or you....or in time, all of us.
A western country can survive fascism. It can't survive darkies.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
But can it survive neoconservatism?
As you know, I don't think that. And as you also know, the point is that you've used an overly broad category to make a baseless accusation. Sort of like saying that "Obama favors law and order so therefore he wants to imprison us all in concentration camps". Your "reparations" could be a subset of "social justice" but it doesn't necessarily follow. But implying that it necessarily does follow makes for a nice radioactive smear.
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2) Under Obama, the war is less likely to expand. Unlike the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly, Obama has emphasized talking with rather than obliterating Iran. Score 1 for Obama (and humanity). 3) Obama has decried the police state fascism of the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. Under Obama, Gitmo (and the black site torture centers) are more likely to be closed, and fundamental rights restored. Score 1 for Obama. But this is negated by two factors: (1) Obama doesn't have an (R) after his name, and (2) Obama is a coloured guy. I think that these two points are what is important to a lot of people.
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A most wonderful rant. Bravo!
Not only those reasons, but because whitey's a pussy. Those guys can say things about blacks we can't. (Keyes is kinda nuts tho'. Powerful orator; I always liked him, and never understood why he never won. That is, until he ran for senator in Illinois.) As much as I like Ward Connerly, it is pathetic that he's the front man.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
This isn't true. On guns and taxes Obama is abysmal. McCain is better on both, as per their voting records. Foreign policy is a wash as Obama seems hell bent on searching the globe for the fictitious (or dead) bin Laden and warring on the CIA created entity, Al Qaeda.
Click the image for "A History of the Gollywogg Doll". A doll inspired by 19th century Minstrels. Essentially a parody of a parody: .
I can't argue with that one bit.
And as you also know, the point is that you've used an overly broad category to make a baseless accusation. Sort of like saying that "Obama favors law and order so therefore he wants to imprison us all in concentration camps". Your "reparations" could be a subset of "social justice" but it doesn't necessarily follow. But implying that it necessarily does follow makes for a nice radioactive smear. If you listened to his speeches, it's there. What the words mean, translate to how he sees his ability to bring it forth. It's that the language he uses, is to mask it's meaning. And no, I don't know what you think of relgion, that's why I asked the question. Point is, its not you that's running for President. If you were, I'd want to study your voting record, your speeches, your influences, your past, everything. If you happen to interpret things differently so be it. Some see the phrase 'comprehensive immigration reform', and know that really means amnesty. That's how they keep the sheep asleep.
Thanks for the Gollywogg Doll. No wonder they're in a perpetual state of anger.
To the extent neoconsrvatism embraces darkie, no. By definition.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
Yes, but it's not unreasonable.
Jazmyn Singleton, a black Duke senior agrees. After living in a predominantly white dorm freshman year, she lives with five African-American women in an all-black dormitory. “Both communities tend to be very judgmental,” says Ms. Singleton, ruefully. “There is pressure to be black. The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are ‘black’ because you can’t count blacks who hang out with white people.”
The evil of AA is that a more qualified white, who might have performed just as well, or better than Obama, might have been passed over because of his/her color. AA is reverse racism and needs to go. Agree?
I don't know who "these" people are unless you mean the Obamaphiles. On another thread you made a blatantly false accusation along with insult and diatribe directed at me. I responded in a civil manner asking where you were coming from. You filtered or ignored me. Today, your rants / feelings have a lot less credibility in my eyes.
That's the lawyer training, and as he's been lauded with the most excellent of honors, we can be sure he's one of the best at it.
Exactly!!! And some laud his magnificent prowess! Gush gush slobber ~~kerplunk~~ !!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
For the same reason Nixon could go to China, Obama could end affirmative action as president. If you want affirmative action to end, maybe you should want Obama to win.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Yes, but it's not unreasonable. It's possible, but it doesn't necessarily follow. "Social Justice" could just as easily imply 2nd Amendment rights for all instead of a select few. Assigning very, very narrow radioactive interpretations to a very, very broad and poorly defined term is little more than a stock propaganda tactic.
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For the same reason Carter COULDN'T go to China, Obama couldn't initiate an amnesty program. The GOP would crucify him for doing so. McCain on the other hand would be supported by the GOP in his amnesty efforts. He would be supported in exactly the same way that the GOP supported Bush - have Rush and the rest of the goob foolers tell the bitter rubes that the GOP opposed amnesty while the GOP prepares the bill and votes it in. And there isn't any doubt about what McCain's amnesty stance is. For those who arn't sure, google "McCain - Kennedy".
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I don't think I'll ever see Obama say whites, who never owned a slave, or supported the slave trade, or knowingly discriminated against any African American have a right to be angry when affirmative action favors someone of a different race.
Actually, I think he said in his racism speech that their resentment is understandable.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You don't have any material to work with, and I'm sure Bill Clinton feels your pain because of this.
Would it be better if he had failed at everything he had done on his own and instead rode up on the coattails of his relatives - like Bush and McCain? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the academy? Why wasn't McCain booted out of flight school? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the service after the Forrestal? Does having two admirals looking out for you have anything to do with it? Personally, I prefer a leader who has a record of accomplishing difficult tasks using his own resources.
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Why wasn't McCain booted out of the academy? Why wasn't McCain booted out of flight school? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the service after the Forrestal? Does having two admirals looking out for you have anything to do with it? Personally, I prefer a leader who has a record of accomplishing difficult tasks using his own resources. So would I. Let's find us one. How about Ron Paul?
That is true. And it's also true that getting a foot in the door doesn't get you the grades. Bush is a good example of this. Bush wasn't qualified to go to Yale, but he got white guy affirmative action because four generations of his family were big benefactors and Prescot was a trustee. Bush failed miserably while he was there. McCain also got white guy affirmative action in that he had two admirals in his family. Like Bush, McCain failed miserably when he got his foot in the door. And it's entirely possible that Obama got into Havard with black guy affirmative action, but in contrast to Bush and McCain, Obama excelled and made law review.
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He sounds good to me.
How about Jesus himself? And now, back to reality ........
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Sleepy Senator John McCain
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#54. To: aristeides (#53)
#55. To: IndieTX (#51)
That is the domestic game plan -- to wipe out an entire segment of society Exactly what the commie ANC is doing in S Africa.
Supports Abortion.
Supports genocidal governments
Funds foreign wars.
Promotes social gospel, which is evangelizing about blaming whitey and ensure the flock understands their victimhood and their oppressors.
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
dedicate their lives to "public service."
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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Obama, like McCain, offers endless war, so their foreign policy is a draw. In fact I give points to McCain for his honest 100 year comment. Obama’s nutty obsession to hunt down al Qaeda, a creation of the US government, was all I needed to know about his foreign policy. His speech to AIPAC was the cap stone.
#58. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
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I don't believe Obama will restore jack. He's a politician, therefore he lies. It's what they do.
#59. To: Peppa (#55)
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Believes in social justice, which is jargon for reparations.
#60. To: ... (#59)
Believes in social justice, which is jargon for reparations. Isn't that sort of like saying that "religion" is jargon for "worship of Satan"?
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Nobody will work harder to go after those terrorists who will do the American people harm
#63. To: Tauzero (#62)
I think he's talking about you, JT.
#64. To: Arator (#32)
I guess fascist tyranny is OK for you just so long as the darkies are kept down (along with everyone else) in the process.
#65. To: Tauzero (#64)
A western country can survive fascism.
#66. To: Peppa (#60)
I don't know, is that what you think of religion?
#67. To: Arator (#32)
1) Obama has promised to get our troops out of Iraq within his first 16 months in office. This sets him apart from the McCain/Hillary Bush/Clinton duopoly. He has taken heat from the warmongering media over this, but he has not backed away. Score 1 for Obama.
#68. To: IndieTX (#44)
But I will continue to say all possible to pursuade others never to vote the marxist gun-hating, war on drugs continuing, world- taxing, affirmative action loving, amnesty giving, reparation-loving, Farrakhan hugging, give your money to the rest of the world, white-hating, black panther forgiving, he'll close Gitmo but leave in place and expand other police state legislation so people love him on one issue, married a racist bitch, amoral Obama anywhere near the presidency.
#69. To: IndieTX (#44)
An Alan Keyes or a Dr. Walter Williams (had they chosen to run as R's) would have received votes because of their character, their leadership and their supreme intelligence.
#70. To: ... (#58)
3. Obama is a politician, so I "know" he will do the same, even though he's shown no inclination towards it so far.
#71. To: Tauzero (#61)
You may be right. But blackface is an unfairly denigrated theatrical tradition.
#72. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#57)
Not voting for either is the only right move that I can see.
#73. To: ... (#66)
As you know, I don't think that.
#74. To: ... (#71)
#75. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#65)
But can it survive neoconservatism?
#76. To: ... (#66)
Your "reparations" could be a subset of "social justice" but it doesn't necessarily follow.
#77. To: ghostdogtxn (#52)
Whatever his political beliefs and campaign experience may be, he's hardly an affirmative action beneficiary.
#78. To: IndieTX (#44)
I will make my feelings known on this 4um, but I will no longer respond to these people individually (so don't waste your time; you'll be filtered or ignored).
#79. To: Peppa (#73)
It's that the language he uses, is to mask it's meaning.
#80. To: angle (#79)
That's the lawyer training, and as he's been lauded with the most excellent of honors, we can be sure he's one of the best at it.
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
#82. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
#83. To: Tauzero (#76)
Your "reparations" could be a subset of "social justice" but it doesn't necessarily follow.
#84. To: aristeides (#82)
For the same reason Nixon could go to China, Obama could end affirmative action as president.
#85. To: aristeides (#82)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
#87. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#88. To: Peppa (#80)
And some laud his magnificent prowess!
#89. To: ... (#88)
Would it be better if he had failed at everything he had done on his own and instead rode up on the coattails of his relatives - like Bush and McCain?
#90. To: ghostdogtxn (#81)
I'm not saying a person of color can't get an advantage in ADMISSION to Harvard because of race, but getting in the door ain't gonna get you on Law Review. No flippin' way.
#91. To: Peppa (#89)
How about Ron Paul?
#92. To: Peppa (#89)
How about Ron Paul?
#93. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
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