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Title: I’m beginning to think McCain will be less dangerous to my freedom than Obama
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Published: May 8, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-05-08 07:57:19 by Jethro Tull
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As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama. Obama, like McCain, offers endless war, so their foreign policy is a draw. In fact I give points to McCain for his honest 100 year comment. Obama’s nutty obsession to hunt down al Qaeda, a creation of the US government, was all I needed to know about his foreign policy. His speech to AIPAC was the cap stone. On the domestic front, both are awful, but Obama is much worse on guns. His dalliance with Black Theology is equally bad news. One look at the over animated Jeremiah Wright should be enough to convince white America that an influence like him will bring us additional layers of affirmative action, political correctness and slavery reparations. And did I mention Michelle Obama? She reeks of nasty and racism. The only plus Obama would bring is a potential white backlash, which is long over due. There's lots more, but this is a starting point. Let the discussion begin.
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#79. To: Peppa (#73)
That's the lawyer training, and as he's been lauded with the most excellent of honors, we can be sure he's one of the best at it.
Exactly!!! And some laud his magnificent prowess! Gush gush slobber ~~kerplunk~~ !!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
For the same reason Nixon could go to China, Obama could end affirmative action as president. If you want affirmative action to end, maybe you should want Obama to win.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Yes, but it's not unreasonable. It's possible, but it doesn't necessarily follow. "Social Justice" could just as easily imply 2nd Amendment rights for all instead of a select few. Assigning very, very narrow radioactive interpretations to a very, very broad and poorly defined term is little more than a stock propaganda tactic.
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For the same reason Carter COULDN'T go to China, Obama couldn't initiate an amnesty program. The GOP would crucify him for doing so. McCain on the other hand would be supported by the GOP in his amnesty efforts. He would be supported in exactly the same way that the GOP supported Bush - have Rush and the rest of the goob foolers tell the bitter rubes that the GOP opposed amnesty while the GOP prepares the bill and votes it in. And there isn't any doubt about what McCain's amnesty stance is. For those who arn't sure, google "McCain - Kennedy".
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I don't think I'll ever see Obama say whites, who never owned a slave, or supported the slave trade, or knowingly discriminated against any African American have a right to be angry when affirmative action favors someone of a different race.
Actually, I think he said in his racism speech that their resentment is understandable.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You don't have any material to work with, and I'm sure Bill Clinton feels your pain because of this.
Would it be better if he had failed at everything he had done on his own and instead rode up on the coattails of his relatives - like Bush and McCain? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the academy? Why wasn't McCain booted out of flight school? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the service after the Forrestal? Does having two admirals looking out for you have anything to do with it? Personally, I prefer a leader who has a record of accomplishing difficult tasks using his own resources.
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Why wasn't McCain booted out of the academy? Why wasn't McCain booted out of flight school? Why wasn't McCain booted out of the service after the Forrestal? Does having two admirals looking out for you have anything to do with it? Personally, I prefer a leader who has a record of accomplishing difficult tasks using his own resources. So would I. Let's find us one. How about Ron Paul?
That is true. And it's also true that getting a foot in the door doesn't get you the grades. Bush is a good example of this. Bush wasn't qualified to go to Yale, but he got white guy affirmative action because four generations of his family were big benefactors and Prescot was a trustee. Bush failed miserably while he was there. McCain also got white guy affirmative action in that he had two admirals in his family. Like Bush, McCain failed miserably when he got his foot in the door. And it's entirely possible that Obama got into Havard with black guy affirmative action, but in contrast to Bush and McCain, Obama excelled and made law review.
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He sounds good to me.
How about Jesus himself? And now, back to reality ........
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Sleepy Senator John McCain Yep. If a Democrat does it, the Republican talking heads will call it amnesty (which it is), but if one of there own does it, they'll call it sound conservative policy. Like I said before, Obama + GOP Congress would be the best way for there not to be any trouble.
That would be a welcome change, if you ever started doing this.
And I'm not saying that Obama is better on the amnesty issue, I am only saying that Obama can't get away with it - and McCain can.
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McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley. He may not have much of a mind, but the old guy sure has made sure he has treated his penis better then women who stood by him while he was a POW.
It probably won't stop the old fraud from talking about "family values." Why should it, if being one of the Keating Five hasn't stopped him from talking about corrupt campaign financing.
You know, I'm going to have to change my vote to McCain. Ron Paul, it was nice supporting you, but the rubber meets the road when we're facing another Robert Mugabe trying to take over America and turn it into a turd-world-no-electricity wasteland. This white man will not bow down before ANY black oppressor. Bring it on, Obama!!!! ;-) "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
See? Another Bot, coming out of the closet. :))))
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You're welcome, feel free to light a cigarette.... ;-)
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
What X-15 does in his spare time.
New data often times leads to new conclusions.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
Mandel Rule, you lose.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Actually no, you yourself celebrate your racism daily. I don't need to accuse you of it. If there were no real affirmation of racism by you and I accused you of it as a one size fits all way to win an argument or lively discussion with you, I would indeed be in violation of the Mandel rule. Making fun of what you already relish about yourself is very much fair game here. ;-D
He may not have much of a mind, but the old guy sure has made sure he has treated his penis better then women who stood by him while he was a POW. I need to google up some old GOP quotes about how extramarital affairs disqualified you for the office of President. If I recall correctly, Newt had some beauties.
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Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
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Here's another beaut. I find it hilarious!!
Liberal myth, please drive through...
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Liberal myth, please drive through... You don't spend a lot of time in South Louisiana. Huh?
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Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white. AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left.
Arator, wake up. Obama would make Bush look like a saint. Please step away from the TV and come back to reality.
God is always good!
AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left. Of course it is reverse racism, and as such it is just as bad as the class discrimination practiced by the Republican elites. Who knows how some well qualified white middle class kid might have performed if McCain or Bush's wealthy and influential families had not leveraged these two flunkies into the middle class kid's rightful position - rightful meaning merit based. Every time an unqualified rich kid gets in on daddy's coat tails, a well qualified kid without the blue blood connections gets bumped. And not only did a qualified white, middle class kid get bumped by Bush and McCain, but these two worthless clowns didn't even value the position they took from the qualified kid. Bush and McCain spent their time getting drunk and basically failed when the opportunity was offered to them. They took the opportunity away from a more qualified person and then wasted the opportunity.
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Agree. Lets bag racial set asides, legacy seats and a dual standard of entrance for the haves and have nots.
AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left. While there was justification for Affirmative Action in its initial years in order to break down the barriers to equal opportunity its continuation has become nothing more than another "racial spoils" system. It is my firm belief that its continuation is hurting black Americans by tainting the accomplishments of those who have achieved through ability and merit. All that is now required, and would be the most beneficial for black Americans, would be a strict enforcement of EQUAL Opportunity and the prevention of racial discrimination. All Affirmative Action is doing now is fueling resentment against black Americans. As well Welfare has been one of the biggest crimes committed against black Americans.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
It is. As an example, if given the choice of choosing between an unknown black or white doctor/lawyer, I'll opt for the white doctor/lawyer. AA puts doubt in my mind, and this is unfortunate but reasonable given the unintended consequences of AA. Sorry for the brutal honesty, but I know I'm not alone in my thinking.
Obama is a freakin' politician. Do you really believe everything he says? You sound like one of those "true believers" but you used to know--at least I thought you did--that you couldn't trust politicians. There was only one decent guy running and that wasn't Obama. But then Ron Paul is a statesman, not a politician.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yep. I don't like him either. Despite the rhetoric from his supporters I don't think there is a hill of beans difference in any of the three.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIt's that the language he uses, is to mask it's meaning.
#80. To: angle (#79)
That's the lawyer training, and as he's been lauded with the most excellent of honors, we can be sure he's one of the best at it.
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
#82. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
#83. To: Tauzero (#76)
Your "reparations" could be a subset of "social justice" but it doesn't necessarily follow.
#84. To: aristeides (#82)
For the same reason Nixon could go to China, Obama could end affirmative action as president.
#85. To: aristeides (#82)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
#87. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#88. To: Peppa (#80)
And some laud his magnificent prowess!
#89. To: ... (#88)
Would it be better if he had failed at everything he had done on his own and instead rode up on the coattails of his relatives - like Bush and McCain?
#90. To: ghostdogtxn (#81)
I'm not saying a person of color can't get an advantage in ADMISSION to Harvard because of race, but getting in the door ain't gonna get you on Law Review. No flippin' way.
#91. To: Peppa (#89)
How about Ron Paul?
#92. To: Peppa (#89)
How about Ron Paul?
#93. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#94. To: ... (#84)
McCain on the other hand would be supported by the GOP in his amnesty efforts.
#95. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"Title: I’m beginning to think..."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#96. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#94)
Yep. If a Democrat does it, the Republican talking heads will call it amnesty (which it is), but if one of there own does it, they'll call it sound conservative policy.
#97. To: ... (#90)
According to Wikipedia:
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#98. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
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McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley.
#99. To: Jethro Tull, All (#0)
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#100. To: X-15, Christine (#99)
You know, I'm going to have to change my vote to McCain.
#101. To: X-15 (#99)
#102. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#100)
#103. To: ghostdogtxn (#101)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#104. To: aristeides (#47)
long history of reversing his positions
#105. To: Ferret Mike (#103)
#106. To: X-15 (#105)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#107. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley.
#108. To: X-15 (#99)
This white man will not bow down before ANY black oppressor.
#109. To: Ferret Mike, X-15, Illegal Mexican Trap, Burkeman1 (#103)
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#110. To: ... (#108)
Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
#111. To: X-15 (#110)
Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
#112. To: ... (#90)
And it's also true that getting a foot in the door doesn't get you the grades.
#113. To: Arator (#32)
You're actually an active promoter of rapacious corporate criminality, freedom-extinguishing police-state thuggery and mass murder for fun and profit?
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
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Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white.
#115. To: ... (#114)
#116. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white.
#117. To: Original_Intent (#116)
It is my firm belief that its continuation is hurting black Americans by tainting the accomplishments of those who have achieved through ability and merit.
#118. To: Arator (#32)
Obama has promised
Obama has emphasized talking
Obama has decried
Lord Acton
#119. To: IndieTX (#44)
I will continue to say all possible to pursuade others never to vote the marxist gun-hating, war on drugs continuing, world- taxing, affirmative action loving, amnesty giving, reparation-loving, Farrakhan hugging, give your money to the rest of the world, white-hating, black panther forgiving, he'll close Gitmo but leave in place and expand other police state legislation so people love him on one issue, married a racist bitch, amoral Obama anywhere near the presidency.
Lord Acton
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