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Title: I’m beginning to think McCain will be less dangerous to my freedom than Obama
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Published: May 8, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-05-08 07:57:19 by Jethro Tull
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As a realist I know either McCain or Obama will be the next president, and although I won’t be voting, I’m coming to the conclusion that McCain will be less of a train wreck to my personal freedom than Obama. Obama, like McCain, offers endless war, so their foreign policy is a draw. In fact I give points to McCain for his honest 100 year comment. Obama’s nutty obsession to hunt down al Qaeda, a creation of the US government, was all I needed to know about his foreign policy. His speech to AIPAC was the cap stone. On the domestic front, both are awful, but Obama is much worse on guns. His dalliance with Black Theology is equally bad news. One look at the over animated Jeremiah Wright should be enough to convince white America that an influence like him will bring us additional layers of affirmative action, political correctness and slavery reparations. And did I mention Michelle Obama? She reeks of nasty and racism. The only plus Obama would bring is a potential white backlash, which is long over due. There's lots more, but this is a starting point. Let the discussion begin.
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#91. To: Peppa (#89)
He sounds good to me.
How about Jesus himself? And now, back to reality ........
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Sleepy Senator John McCain Yep. If a Democrat does it, the Republican talking heads will call it amnesty (which it is), but if one of there own does it, they'll call it sound conservative policy. Like I said before, Obama + GOP Congress would be the best way for there not to be any trouble.
That would be a welcome change, if you ever started doing this.
And I'm not saying that Obama is better on the amnesty issue, I am only saying that Obama can't get away with it - and McCain can.
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McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley. He may not have much of a mind, but the old guy sure has made sure he has treated his penis better then women who stood by him while he was a POW.
It probably won't stop the old fraud from talking about "family values." Why should it, if being one of the Keating Five hasn't stopped him from talking about corrupt campaign financing.
You know, I'm going to have to change my vote to McCain. Ron Paul, it was nice supporting you, but the rubber meets the road when we're facing another Robert Mugabe trying to take over America and turn it into a turd-world-no-electricity wasteland. This white man will not bow down before ANY black oppressor. Bring it on, Obama!!!! ;-) "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
See? Another Bot, coming out of the closet. :))))
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You're welcome, feel free to light a cigarette.... ;-)
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
What X-15 does in his spare time.
New data often times leads to new conclusions.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
Mandel Rule, you lose.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Actually no, you yourself celebrate your racism daily. I don't need to accuse you of it. If there were no real affirmation of racism by you and I accused you of it as a one size fits all way to win an argument or lively discussion with you, I would indeed be in violation of the Mandel rule. Making fun of what you already relish about yourself is very much fair game here. ;-D
He may not have much of a mind, but the old guy sure has made sure he has treated his penis better then women who stood by him while he was a POW. I need to google up some old GOP quotes about how extramarital affairs disqualified you for the office of President. If I recall correctly, Newt had some beauties.
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Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
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Here's another beaut. I find it hilarious!!
Liberal myth, please drive through...
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson
Liberal myth, please drive through... You don't spend a lot of time in South Louisiana. Huh?
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Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white. AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left.
Arator, wake up. Obama would make Bush look like a saint. Please step away from the TV and come back to reality.
God is always good!
AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left. Of course it is reverse racism, and as such it is just as bad as the class discrimination practiced by the Republican elites. Who knows how some well qualified white middle class kid might have performed if McCain or Bush's wealthy and influential families had not leveraged these two flunkies into the middle class kid's rightful position - rightful meaning merit based. Every time an unqualified rich kid gets in on daddy's coat tails, a well qualified kid without the blue blood connections gets bumped. And not only did a qualified white, middle class kid get bumped by Bush and McCain, but these two worthless clowns didn't even value the position they took from the qualified kid. Bush and McCain spent their time getting drunk and basically failed when the opportunity was offered to them. They took the opportunity away from a more qualified person and then wasted the opportunity.
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Agree. Lets bag racial set asides, legacy seats and a dual standard of entrance for the haves and have nots.
AA is reverse racism and it's practitioners social engineers for the political left. While there was justification for Affirmative Action in its initial years in order to break down the barriers to equal opportunity its continuation has become nothing more than another "racial spoils" system. It is my firm belief that its continuation is hurting black Americans by tainting the accomplishments of those who have achieved through ability and merit. All that is now required, and would be the most beneficial for black Americans, would be a strict enforcement of EQUAL Opportunity and the prevention of racial discrimination. All Affirmative Action is doing now is fueling resentment against black Americans. As well Welfare has been one of the biggest crimes committed against black Americans.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
It is. As an example, if given the choice of choosing between an unknown black or white doctor/lawyer, I'll opt for the white doctor/lawyer. AA puts doubt in my mind, and this is unfortunate but reasonable given the unintended consequences of AA. Sorry for the brutal honesty, but I know I'm not alone in my thinking.
Obama is a freakin' politician. Do you really believe everything he says? You sound like one of those "true believers" but you used to know--at least I thought you did--that you couldn't trust politicians. There was only one decent guy running and that wasn't Obama. But then Ron Paul is a statesman, not a politician.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yep. I don't like him either. Despite the rhetoric from his supporters I don't think there is a hill of beans difference in any of the three.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It's not just him either. That harpy/shrew he is married to hates whitey with a passion.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. My opinion is that McCain is every bit as destructive as Obama is, but he tends to hide it a little better. But don't misunderstand me, please. I don't blame McCain or Obama for "seizing" power. They are in the positions they enjoy because of many generations of manipulation this country has endured, abuse that is accelerating.
Ah, the audacity of hope. ;^) McCain, on the other hand, promises globe-wide conflagration, which is no hope at all. When faced with such a choice, I'll choose hope everytime. You know better, but his race alone is the reason, IMO, that you have looked past his 9-11 beliefs, his promise of an expanded WOT against al CIAda, and his love of large central government (read socialism). "Expanding the WOT against alCIAda" is really shrinking it, since it will be coupled with a massive withdrawal from Iraq. I suspect the former is only to provide Obama with political cover for the latter, and prevent the GOP jackboots from painting him as weak on "national security". It's a tactical manuever to facility a strategic withdrawal. That's a wise move, IMO. As for love of central government, both parties share it. The difference is this: under McCain trillions stolen from taxpayers will end up accumulating offshore (ie. in the accounts of no-bid defense contractors HQ'd in Dubai), whereas under Obama they might actually get spent and earned by real flesh and blood Americans here in "the homeland." If we have to stomach big government either way, I prefer the kind that spends our tax money on Americans living in America, not overseas corporate pirates. Obama's race has nothing to do with it. If a white Dem (like say, Jim Webb) were running with the same anti-war platform, I'd be supporting him as well. I think you would too. So, why not Obama?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Except you can't very well argue that Obama is anti-war. He's got Zbigniew Brzezinski on his team, and he's already said what he would do in Pakistan, Iran, and elsewhere to keep up the good work of the Zionists. He's been to AIPAC and oathed his fealty to the Jews. He's just less aggressive about being pro-war than the others have been, more or less. But the audacity of hope is endless, I know. Do you know anything at all about Brzezinski?
just coming late to this thread and have only read 1/3 so far. not feeling well and been sleeping. just want to throw this in the mix for discussion. Ron Paul is black.
It’s funny you mention “The Audacity of Hope," because his book doesn't offer hope. He calls for a "revised foreign policy that matches the “boldness and scope of Truman's post-World War II policies” -- “one that addresses both the challenges and the opportunities of a new millennium, one that guides our use of force and expresses our deepest concerns.” Hello?? WTF does that mean? Obama's campaign should carry a warning: Danger! Foreign policy under construction * Obama has suggested that bombing Iran to stop its nuclear program would be an option in his presidency. * He’d shuffle *combat troops* (leaving other troops behind) from Iraq to Afghanistan to hunt bin Laden and al Qaeda * He warned Pakistan's president, Musharraf, that if he didn't take out terrorists in his midst, President Obama would. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will" * Israel is “sacrosanct” and will be defended from all foes. * He’s called al Qaeda on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border’ a bigger threat than in Iraq. These 'terrorists' go in an Obama administration. Add all this together and you have in Obama McKook on steroids. So tell me again why this domestic socialist is a foreign policy saviour?
This wouldn't bother me at all, but I don't understand why you make this assertion just now. Please explain?
hehehehe..... You sound like me after 6 Coronas :)
what i'm asserting is that it's not Obama's race/color for most (if not all) here, but his leftist radical politics and adherence to the Black Liberation Theology. switch Ron Paul and his politics for Obama and Obama and his politics for Ron Paul and i believe we'd all still be getting along here.
Basically your lefty 68er friends just wanted to get high and dodge the draft. There are excellent, principled reasons for dodging the draft and making drugs legal, but those are the motivations here.
I get it. Yes, blacks on the political right (constitutional side) are shunned by the MSM. If Obama weren't a domestic socialist and foreign policy interventionist, he'd be a non candidate.
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#92. To: Peppa (#89)
How about Ron Paul?
#93. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#94. To: ... (#84)
McCain on the other hand would be supported by the GOP in his amnesty efforts.
#95. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"Title: I’m beginning to think..."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#96. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#94)
Yep. If a Democrat does it, the Republican talking heads will call it amnesty (which it is), but if one of there own does it, they'll call it sound conservative policy.
#97. To: ... (#90)
According to Wikipedia:
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#98. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
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McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley.
#99. To: Jethro Tull, All (#0)
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#100. To: X-15, Christine (#99)
You know, I'm going to have to change my vote to McCain.
#101. To: X-15 (#99)
#102. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#100)
#103. To: ghostdogtxn (#101)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#104. To: aristeides (#47)
long history of reversing his positions
#105. To: Ferret Mike (#103)
#106. To: X-15 (#105)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#107. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam. While he was in Vietnam, his wife Carol had been severely injured in a car accident. Due to the accident, she had become 4 inches shorter, gained weight, and had to use crutches to walk. Soon after his return in 1973, McCain began engaging in extramarital affairs. In 1979, he met and began an affair with 25-year-old Cindy Hensley. A year later, McCain sought a divorce from Carol and a month after that, he married Hensley.
#108. To: X-15 (#99)
This white man will not bow down before ANY black oppressor.
#109. To: Ferret Mike, X-15, Illegal Mexican Trap, Burkeman1 (#103)
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#110. To: ... (#108)
Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
#111. To: X-15 (#110)
Lots of people from the South have been touched by the tar brush somewhere back in the family tree. Do you ask to see their passbook before dealing with them?
#112. To: ... (#90)
And it's also true that getting a foot in the door doesn't get you the grades.
#113. To: Arator (#32)
You're actually an active promoter of rapacious corporate criminality, freedom-extinguishing police-state thuggery and mass murder for fun and profit?
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
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Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white.
#115. To: ... (#114)
#116. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
Of course not, but AA uses color as a factor in the selection process, and with that comes unintended consequences. We'll never know what contributions to society were never realized b/c a black was given preference over a more qualified white.
#117. To: Original_Intent (#116)
It is my firm belief that its continuation is hurting black Americans by tainting the accomplishments of those who have achieved through ability and merit.
#118. To: Arator (#32)
Obama has promised
Obama has emphasized talking
Obama has decried
Lord Acton
#119. To: IndieTX (#44)
I will continue to say all possible to pursuade others never to vote the marxist gun-hating, war on drugs continuing, world- taxing, affirmative action loving, amnesty giving, reparation-loving, Farrakhan hugging, give your money to the rest of the world, white-hating, black panther forgiving, he'll close Gitmo but leave in place and expand other police state legislation so people love him on one issue, married a racist bitch, amoral Obama anywhere near the presidency.
Lord Acton
#120. To: Peppa (#55)
This is an angry man. A lot of hatred wrapped up in one man.
Lord Acton
#121. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#122. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
Arator, personal attack aside, your points above are based on promises and hope offered by a politician.
#123. To: Arator (#122)
#124. To: ALL, Arator, Jethro Tull, angle, a vast rightwing conspirator (#123)
#125. To: Arator (#122)
#126. To: christine (#124)
Ron Paul is black.
#127. To: christine (#124)
Ron Paul is black.
#128. To: buckeye (#126)
#129. To: christine (#128)
#130. To: christine (#128)
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