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Title: As Obama's star rises, fears for his safety Memories of 1968 assassinations evoked
Source: International Herald Tribune
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Published: Feb 26, 2008
Author: International Herald Tribune
Post Date: 2008-05-09 15:09:50 by Jethro Tull
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As Obama's star rises, fears for his safety Memories of 1968 assassinations evoked

From:
International Herald Tribune
Date:
February 26, 2008
Author:
Jeff Zeleny The New York Times Media Group
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International Herald Tribune

02-26-2008

As Obama's star rises, fears for his safety Memories of 1968 assassinations evoked
Byline: Jeff Zeleny The New York Times Media Group
Edition: 1
Section: NEWS

DALLAS --

There is a hushed worry on the minds of many supporters of Senator Barack Obama, echoing in conversations from state to state, rally to rally: Will he be safe?

In Colorado, two sisters say they pray daily for his safety. In New Mexico, a daughter says she persuaded her mother to still vote for Obama, even though the mother feared that winning would put him in danger. And at a rally here, a woman expressed worries that a message of hope and change, in addition to his race, made him more vulnerable to violence.
"I've got the best protection in the world," Obama, of Illinois, said in an interview, reprising a line he tells supporters who raise the issue with him. "So stop worrying."

Yet worry they do, with the spring of 1968 seared into their memories, when the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. and Senator Robert Kennedy were assassinated in a span of two months.

Obama was 6 at the time, and like many of his admirers, he has only read about the violence that traumatized and polarized the nation. But those recollections and images are often invoked by older voters, who watch his candidacy with fascination, as well as an uneasy air of apprehension, as Democrats inch closer to selecting their nominee.

Obama has had Secret Service agents surrounding him since May 3, the earliest a candidate has ever been provided protection. (He reluctantly gave in to the insistent urging of Senator Richard Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, and others in Congress.) As his rallies have swelled in size, his security has increased, close to rivaling that given to a sitting president.

His wife, Michelle Obama, voiced concerns about his safety before he was elected to the Senate. Three years ago, she said she dreaded the day her husband received Secret Service protection, because it would mean serious threats had been made against him.

Among friends and advisers, danger is something Obama rarely mentions.

"It's not something that I'm spending time thinking about day to day," said Obama, who has been given the Secret Service nickname Renegade, a way for agents to quickly identify him. "I made a decision to get into this race. I think anybody who decides to run for president recognizes that there are some risks involved, just like there are risks in anything."

Not long ago, his advisers worried that some black voters might not support his candidacy out of a fierce desire to protect him. It was a particular concern in South Carolina, but Obama said he believed the worry was also rooted in "a fear of failure."

Now that he has won a string of primaries and caucuses in all corners of the country and built a coalition of black and white voters, failure would seem to be less of an issue. The fears, however, remain.

Representative Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat and chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, raised concerns in a letter in January to officials who oversee the Secret Service. Obama was already receiving protection, but Thompson said the intense interest in the election had prompted him to make sure that Obama and the other candidates were offered adequate security.

"The national and international profile of Sen. Barack Obama gives rise to unique challenges that merit special concern," Thompson wrote. "As an African-American who was witness to some of this nation's most shameful days during the civil rights movement, I know personally that the hatred of some of our fellow citizens can lead to heinous acts of violence. We need only to look to the assassinations of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and 1968 presidential candidate Robert Kennedy as examples."

In an interview, Thompson declined to elaborate on any specific threats that had come to the attention of his committee or the authorities. He said he wrote the letter to the Homeland Security Department without discussing it with Obama, whom he has endorsed.

"His candidacy is so unique to this country and so important that the last thing you would want is for him not to have the opportunity to fulfill the role of a potential presidential nominee," Thompson said. "It's out of an abundance of caution that I wrote the letter, rather than keep our fingers crossed and pray."

Before Obama decided to run for president, he discussed his safety with his family. His campaign employed a team of private security guards before he was placed under Secret Service protection. Since then, he has grown fond of the agents who surround him, inviting them to watch the Super Bowl at his home in Chicago and playing basketball with them on the days he awaits the results of an election.

Obama was reluctant to speak about his security or the period in American history that is often raised, without prompting, by voters who are interviewed at his campaign events. Mentions of the fate that befell President John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy only increased after Obama was joined on the campaign trail by Caroline Kennedy and Senator Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

"I'm pretty familiar with the history," Obama said. "Obviously, it was an incredible national trauma, but neither Bobby Kennedy nor Martin Luther King had Secret Service protection."

Indeed, the assassination of Kennedy in 1968 prompted Congress to pass a law authorizing protection of major presidential and vice presidential candidates. In this campaign, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has had Secret Service protection from the beginning because she is a former first lady. None of the other candidates accepted it during their primary campaigns.

Gerald Posner, author of books on the assassinations of John Kennedy and King, said he did not believe that Obama was under a significantly higher risk than President George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton. The fears are more openly discussed, he said, because he is the first black candidate to come this close to winning a major party's presidential nomination.

"Barack scares those of us who think of the possibility of an assassination in a different way," Posner said. "He represents so much hope and change. That is exactly what was taken away from us in the 1960s."


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#107. To: Jethro Tull (#104)

I mean it isn't like I'm the one comparing O to JFK.

Is Lloyd Bensen still around? We could get Barack and Dan Quayle up on stage at the same time, let someone who knew JFK tell me who I should vote for.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-09   20:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Dakmar (#106)

Your only way out of the mess you're in is to petition your city council to rename the largest avenue in your area, Martin Luther King Boulevard.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Jethro Tull (#104)

Sirhan?!?

Should the big O get elected, maybe Olmert will pardon Sirhan in time for the inauguration.

But, of course, this all assumes Obama isn't a major league Israel ass kisser (which he is). As long as he obeys Israel, he'll be safe.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-05-09   20:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Dakmar (#105)

On the other hand, inner city rioting would certainly put what's left of the middle class ill at ease.

Although there would certainly be massive rioting, I think a large number of American blacks would immediately think at Israel.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-05-09   20:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

My doorknob keeps on turning, there must be spooks around my bed.

Robert Johnson- Malted Milk

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-09   20:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: wbales (#109)

How Barack Obama learned to love Israel
Ali Abunimah, The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007

(EI Illustration)


I first met Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama almost ten years ago when, as my representative in the Illinois state senate, he came to speak at the University of Chicago. He impressed me as progressive, intelligent and charismatic. I distinctly remember thinking 'if only a man of this calibre could become president one day.'

On Friday Obama gave a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Chicago. It had been much anticipated in American Jewish political circles which buzzed about his intensive efforts to woo wealthy pro-Israel campaign donors who up to now have generally leaned towards his main rival Senator Hillary Clinton.

Reviewing the speech, Ha'aretz Washington correspondent Shmuel Rosner concluded that Obama "sounded as strong as Clinton, as supportive as Bush, as friendly as Giuliani. At least rhetorically, Obama passed any test anyone might have wanted him to pass. So, he is pro-Israel. Period."

Israel is "our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy," Obama said, assuring his audience that "we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs." Such advanced multi-billion dollar systems he asserted, would help Israel "deter missile attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza." As if the starved, besieged and traumatized population of Gaza are about to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Obama offered not a single word of criticism of Israel, of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians.

There was no comfort for the hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza who live in the dark, or the patients who cannot get dialysis, because of what Israeli human rights group B'Tselem termed "one cold, calculated decision, made by Israel's prime minister, defense minister, and IDF chief of staff" last summer to bomb the only power plant in Gaza," a decision that "had nothing to do with the attempts to achieve [the] release [of a captured soldier] nor any other military need." It was a gratuitous war crime, one of many condemned by human rights organizations, against an occupied civilian population who under the Fourth Geneva Convention Israel is obligated to protect.

From left to right, Michelle Obama, then Illinois state senator Barack Obama, Columbia University Professor Edward Said and Mariam Said at a May 1998 Arab community event in Chicago at which Edward Said gave the keynote speech. (Image from archives of Ali Abunimah)


While constantly emphasizing his concern about the threat Israelis face from Palestinians, Obama said nothing about the exponentially more lethal threat Israelis present to Palestinians. In 2006, according to B'Tselem, Israeli occupation forces killed 660 Palestinians of whom 141 were children -- triple the death toll for 2005. In the same period, 23 Israelis were killed by Palestinians, half the number of 2005 (by contrast, 500 Israelis die each year in road accidents).

But Obama was not entirely insensitive to ordinary lives. He recalled a January 2006 visit to the Israeli town of Kiryat Shmona that resembled an ordinary American suburb where he could imagine the sounds of Israeli children at "joyful play just like my own daughters." He saw a home the Israelis told him was damaged by a Hizbullah rocket (no one had been hurt in the incident).

Six months later, Obama said, "Hizbullah launched four thousand rocket attacks just like the one that destroyed the home in Kiryat Shmona, and kidnapped Israeli service members."

Obama's phrasing suggests that Hizbullah launched thousands of rockets in an unprovoked attack, but it's a complete distortion. Throughout his speech he showed a worrying propensity to present discredited propaganda as fact. As anyone who checks the chronology of last summer's Lebanon war will easily discover, Hizbullah only launched lethal barrages of rockets against Israeli towns and cities after Israel had heavily bombed civilian neighborhoods in Lebanon killing hundreds of civilians, many fleeing the Israeli onslaught.

Obama excoriated Hizbullah for using "innocent people as shields." Indeed, after dozens of civilians were massacred in an Israeli air attack on Qana on July 30, Israel "initially claimed that the military targeted the house because Hezbollah fighters had fired rockets from the area," according to an August 2 statement from Human Rights Watch.

The statement added: "Human Rights Watch researchers who visited Qana on July 31, the day after the attack, did not find any destroyed military equipment in or near the home. Similarly, none of the dozens of international journalists, rescue workers and international observers who visited Qana on July 30 and 31 reported seeing any evidence of Hezbollah military presence in or around the home. Rescue workers recovered no bodies of apparent Hezbollah fighters from inside or near the building." The Israelis subsequently changed their story, and neither in Qana, nor anywhere else did Israel ever present, or international investigators ever find evidence to support the claim Hizbullah had a policy of using civilians as human shields.

In total, forty-three Israeli civilians were killed by Hizbullah rockets during the thirty-four day war. For every Israeli civilian who died, over twenty-five Lebanese civilians were killed by indiscriminate Israeli bombing -- over one thousand in total, a third of them children. Even the Bush administration recently criticized Israel's use of cluster bombs against Lebanese civilians. But Obama defended Israel's assault on Lebanon as an exercise of its "legitimate right to defend itself."

There was absolutely nothing in Obama's speech that deviated from the hardline consensus underpinning US policy in the region. Echoing the sort of exaggeration and alarmism that got the United States into the Iraq war, he called Iran "one of the greatest threats to the United States, to Israel, and world peace." While advocating "tough" diplomacy with Iran he confirmed that "we should take no option, including military action, off the table." He opposed a Palestinian unity government between Hamas and Fatah and insisted "we must maintain the isolation of Hamas" until it meets the Quartet's one-sided conditions. He said Hizbullah, which represents millions of Lebanon's disenfranchised and excluded, "threatened the fledgling movement for democracy" and blamed it for "engulf[ing] that entire nation in violence and conflict."

Over the years since I first saw Obama speak I met him about half a dozen times, often at Palestinian and Arab-American community events in Chicago including a May 1998 community fundraiser at which Edward Said was the keynote speaker. In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.

As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front." He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, "Keep up the good work!"

But Obama's gradual shift into the AIPAC camp had begun as early as 2002 as he planned his move from small time Illinois politics to the national scene. In 2003, Forward reported on how he had "been courting the pro-Israel constituency." He co-sponsored an amendment to the Illinois Pension Code allowing the state of Illinois to lend money to the Israeli government. Among his early backers was Penny Pritzker -- now his national campaign finance chair -- scion of the liberal but staunchly Zionist family that owns the Hyatt hotel chain. (The Hyatt Regency hotel on Mount Scopus was built on land forcibly expropriated from Palestinian owners after Israel occupied East Jerusalem in 1967). He has also appointed several prominent pro-Israel advisors.

Michelle Obama and Barack Obama listen to Professor Edward Said give the keynote address at an Arab community event in Chicago, May 1998. (Photo: Ali Abunimah)


Obama has also been close to some prominent Arab Americans, and has received their best advice. His decisive trajectory reinforces a lesson that politically weak constituencies have learned many times: access to people with power alone does not translate into influence over policy. Money and votes, but especially money, channelled through sophisticated and coordinated networks that can "bundle" small donations into million dollar chunks are what buy influence on policy. Currently, advocates of Palestinian rights are very far from having such networks at their disposal. Unless they go out and do the hard work to build them, or to support meaningful campaign finance reform, whispering in the ears of politicians will have little impact. (For what it's worth, I did my part. I recently met with Obama's legislative aide, and wrote to Obama urging a more balanced policy towards Palestine.)

If disappointing, given his historically close relations to Palestinian- Americans, Obama's about-face is not surprising. He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power. Palestinian-Americans are in the same position as civil libertarians who watched with dismay as Obama voted to reauthorize the USA Patriot Act, or immigrant rights advocates who were horrified as he voted in favor of a Republican bill to authorize the construction of a 700-mile fence on the border with Mexico.

Only if enough people know what Obama and his competitors stand for, and organize to compel them to pay attention to their concerns can there be any hope of altering the disastrous course of US policy in the Middle East. It is at best a very long-term project that cannot substitute for support for the growing campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions needed to hold Israel accountable for its escalating violence and solidifying apartheid.

Ali Abunimah is the co-founder of The Electronic Intifada and author of One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli-Palestinian Impasse


Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:37:58 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

There is a hushed worry on the minds of many supporters of Senator Barack Obama, echoing in conversations from state to state, rally to rally: Will he be safe?

Hot steaming pile.

This supporter has no such fears.

The Bush administration has converted you to a FEAR haunted sheep, JT.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-09   20:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: iconoclast (#113)

Meet Os VP

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Jethro Tull (#114)

You're doing a yeowman's job of keeping commie panties in a bunch lately. Nice.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-05-09   20:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: iconoclast (#113)

The Bush administration has converted you to a FEAR haunted sheep, JT.

I report, you decide.....ho.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Critter (#115)

T/y Critter.

Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#83)

NOBEL Prize winner Doris Lessing caused uproar last night by predictingthe assassination of Barack Obama if he becomes the first black U.S. president.

The 88- year-old novelists remarks came as the Democratic candidate toasted themost successful day in his White House campaign.

Doris Lessing?

For crysakes is there no limit to your reach for Obama nonsense?

You're making a fool of yourself, JT.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-09   20:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#117)

Choose a job you love...

You're a better man than me when it comes to that. I can only stomach so much before I have to go puke and take a nap. :)

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-05-09   20:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: iconoclast (#118)

And her thoughts regarding our new JFK are flawed???

Why?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Critter (#119)

To be honest, I'd like to be 15 again and going to a party in someone's finished basement.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: aristeides, cristine (#66)

Whereas the people who are hinting broadly here about the idea of assassinating a leading candidate for the presidency are real true Americans.

Can this 4um get any crazier or more racist?

And not a word from cristine.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-09   20:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: iconoclast (#122)

What? Where? How?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-09   20:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#99)

We're still fascinated by the details of assassination, but it ought to impress the nuts among us that assassins never change the course of history, and they all wind up ignominiously dead.

They do change the course of history. JFK was going to get rid of the Federal Reserve until a bullet to his head stopped that. Obama was never meant to win, he was meant to cause racial unrest and martial law. The fool can't see he is being set up becasue he actually thinks he is smart. Liberal education did nothing for Obama. I almost feel bad for the guy.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-09   21:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: aristeides (#66) (Edited)

Whereas the people who are hinting broadly here about the idea of assassinating a leading candidate for the presidency are real true Americans.

Hinting? The article isn't hinting any such thing, it is explicitly saying that many are worried Obama will bite the dust. Where did you get the "hint" from? LOL!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-09   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: iconoclast (#122)

Can this 4um get any crazier or more racist?

With Obama supporters posting here it can.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-09   21:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: iconoclast (#122)

Can this 4um get any crazier or more racist?

Hell yes!!

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the white community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the white community first and foremost."<-- I bastardized Michelle Obama's quote ;-)

X-15  posted on  2008-05-09   21:28:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#114)

Meet Os VP

More racist crap.

If you disappear after Obama's elected, we'll all assume you cut your filth spewing throat.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-09   21:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: X-15, iconoclast (#127)

Can this 4um get any crazier or more racist?

Hell yes!!

Porch Monkeys?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-09   21:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Dakmar (#129)

HAHAHAHA!!! "...but my grandmother did refer to a broken beer bottle once as a nigger-knife."

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the white community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the white community first and foremost."<-- I bastardized Michelle Obama's quote ;-)

X-15  posted on  2008-05-09   21:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: iconoclast (#122) (Edited)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

christine  posted on  2008-05-09   22:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: christine (#131)

Thanks for your efforts, it has been rough lately and prolly isn't going to get better as the cycle goes on to the election.

I think you're doing great, its a few others that I question, but I don't have to respond to their non sense.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-05-09   22:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: christine (#131)

I don't like dogs very much.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-05-09   22:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: tom007 (#132)

thank you, tom.

christine  posted on  2008-05-09   22:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: who knows what evil (#133)

i love dogs, but i love cats more.

christine  posted on  2008-05-09   22:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: christine, who knows what evil (#135)

I hate dandelions and especially those weeds we call plantains. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-09   23:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Dakmar (#136)

my pleasure, dak. ;P

christine  posted on  2008-05-09   23:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: iconoclast (#122)

cristine

Try spelling the 4um owner's name/handle right...?


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-09   23:24:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: RickyJ (#126)

Can this 4um get any crazier or more racist?

With Obama supporters posting here it can.

The 4um almost tanked because of the racist-Establishment-Progressive/Marxist/Commie/RAT/Socialist Ophiles...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-09   23:27:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: iconoclast (#128)

If you disappear after Obama's elected, we'll all assume you cut your filth spewing throat.

Better hit the bunkers when TSHTF then, you Marxist-racist-Establishment tool...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-09   23:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: christine (#131)

What a great 4um.

Even America-hating, thieving, racist, Marxist, Establishment knob-polishers get a voice...!


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-09   23:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FOH (#141)

Even America-hating, thieving, racist, Marxist, Establishment knob-polishers get a voice...!

Having a hard time dealing with their arguments?

Oh well, you can always call them names. That's what immature wingnuts do isn't it?

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...  posted on  2008-05-10   0:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: ... (#142)

I believe you're my very first stalker...I feel special !!


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   0:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: ... (#142)

Even America-hating, thieving, racist, Marxist, Establishment knob-polishers get a voice...!

Having a hard time dealing with their arguments?

Oh well, you can always call them names. That's what immature wingnuts do isn't it?

This one is just for you, trip dots. The photo was shot at Che Obama's Texas HQ in Houston:


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   0:52:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: FOH (#144)

This one is just for you, trip dots. The photo was shot at Che Obama's Texas HQ in Houston:

You trust Fox News to give you an honest image?

You're as dumb as the people getting suckered into buying big SUVs these days.

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...  posted on  2008-05-10   0:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: FOH (#144) (Edited)

How do you say "Wasting money like a conservative" when you are speaking on tongues?

And why are you guys so bad with managing money? Bush and Reagan were as sloppy as you are.

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...  posted on  2008-05-10   0:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: ... (#145)

You trust Fox News to give you an honest image?

You're as dumb as the people getting suckered into buying big SUVs these days.

I love my big SUV, thanks for noticing ;)

Here's what I trust 99.99%...I trust that you're one stupid racist Marxist America-hating Establishment knob-polisher... if you're approaching thirty years old or passed it, you need to call in the warranty. Major defective. Otherwise we'll just have to chalk it up to youth...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   1:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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