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Title: Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=1992
Published: May 10, 2008
Author: FourWinds 10
Post Date: 2008-05-10 05:42:39 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 3757
Comments: 195

This is just in from Sen. Coburn’s office. Obama has authored a bill, and it is now in the Senate, to give the UN .7% of our GNP to be used to feed hungry 3rd worlders, AND to use UN force to disarm you and me and all gun owners. No one in the media has brought this to the attention of the general sheeple out here.

Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Obama’s bill S2433 passed the committee and going to the Senate

Senator Coburn is blocking this bill.

Patrick Guinn

Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for "food" to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.

The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.

The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.

http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_2433.html

Detailed Summary

Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.

Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports.

Defines specified terms.

Status of the Legislation

Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008: Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 718.

http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-on-barack-obama-s2433-global.html

More on Barack Obama’s S.2433 : Global Poverty Act

We know for a fact that this bill will cost America $845 billion above and beyond what America already spends on global aid in the next thirteen years. America will be locked in to giving .7 percent of the U.S. gross national product. That in itself is scary enough, but there is way more to Obama’s bill. It also locks us into United Nations Millennium Summit. Cliff Kincaid from Accuracy in Media is all over this bill. He writes-(Underlined by me)

The bill institutes the United Nations Millennium Summit goals as the benchmarks for U.S. spending.

"It is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day," a statement issued by supporters, including Obama, said.

Specifically, it would "declare" that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is "required" to "develop and implement" a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be "specific and measurable."

Kincaid said that after cutting through all of the honorable-sounding goals in the plan, the bottom line is that the legislation would mandate the 0.7 percent of the U.S. GNP as "official development assistance."

"In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning ’small arms and light weapons’ and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," he said.

Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims.

Kincaid also reported Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the "Millennium Project," confirms a U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP would add about $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already donates overseas.

And the only way to raise that funding, Sachs confirms, "is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels," Kincaid writes.

On the forum run by Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, one writer reported estimates of taxes from 35 cents to $1 dollar a gallon on gasoline would be needed.(LINK)

This ladies and gentleman is the Barack Obama vision for America . WND called Obama’s office and the others who support this bill….No comments.

See Obama’s Global Tax Bill (S.2433)

Change Obama can believe in: Socialism?

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#155. To: buckeye (#154)

But the streets of Russia ran red with the blood of their enemies. The oppression here is just beginning. We have only seen a faint glimmering of what they have in mind for us. The HR 1955 style legislation is child's play compared to what they believe is necessary to protect them.

I hear you.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-10   14:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Peppa (#155)
(Edited)

Certain Solzhenitsyn materials have not been published in English, such as his Two Hundred Years Together history of Jewish-Russian relations. One would hope that an enterprising citizen would correct that deficiency one day soon.

Apparently some of it has been published now in The Solzhenitsyn Reader: New and Essential Writings, 1947-2005. Why not all? Why not more publicity.

Gate keepers.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   14:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)

"Let him have the last word and then lead by example and ignore him forever."

Nice post, I will consider your words.My better half and I are going to be heading off to a Pow Wow on campus and then will off in a remote area sweating and doing other fun stuff in rural Lane County tonight, so you are getting a break from this. And she hates my tack here as much as you do, so who knows? I might take your suggestion.

(She is part Cherokee, and originally from Houston,Texas.) ;-D


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-10   15:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)

I don't see any point in answering the repeated insults from FOH because I don't care if he sees my point of view. He seems undeterred by reason and he enjoys your obviously distressed replies.

I think you're probably right. FOH is just doing an ALS/yukon/Mudboy thing to keep the discussion off subjects he can't refute. I'd be curious to know the total percentage of posts here that are now going to his vapid sloganeering or silly attacks.

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...  posted on  2008-05-10   15:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Ferret Mike (#157)

I did a sweat lodge ceremony with some Indians in California. Years ago. I was surprised at how sweating like that really does get your skin cleaned out. Felt great afterward.

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...  posted on  2008-05-10   15:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#137)

Gotta keep the Hegelian dialectic active ya know LOL.

Just say none of the above, BiaM. These figureheads have no real power. What's more, Obama can be convinced of the same extremism Bush and McCain have followed in the same way. When the next terror attack hits, his advisers will lie and say that everything possible was done to prevent it, and so more adventurism and tyranny will be required.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   16:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: buckeye (#160)


Tool Lyrics


Maybe someone besides you and I will figure it out...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   16:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: FOH (#161)

My complaint against Tool is their penchant for symbols of sadistic anarchy as some sort of escape valve. It's our rulers who are sadistic anarchists, refusing to concede Natural Law, and refusing to respect or even acknowledge individual free will. Tool is trapped in its own rebellion, emulating that which enslaves many.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   16:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: buckeye (#162)

Of course, but this is what THEY understand...this is THEIR language.

This is HOW they view things. They just happened to put it to some rockin' muzak !

Very informative imo...instructional how NeoCommies/NeoCons have worked to develop and studiously, with cultish determination, maintain their symbiotic relationship which by it's nature destroys their host.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   17:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: FOH (#163)

Building global consensus for establishing the state of Israel, then driving Jews to move there or support it, and now to fight global wars to defend its interests are significant factors in this.

Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to retain their own Anglo-Saxon culture. Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to defend their own borders. Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to practice their own religion in public settings. Meanwhile, Americans traditions are forced to succumb to massive levels of immigration.

Symbiotic? I would call it parasitic. The host is dying.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   17:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: buckeye (#164)

Symbiotic? I would call it parasitic. The host is dying.

Yes, the NeoCons and NeoCommies have united under the flag of Globalism and YES, it is a parasitic relationship because the host (our nation) is dying...;)


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   17:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)

I appreciate the reality check and will respect the peer imput.

I normally don't do so, but I will just put him on bozo and be done with him.

When you argue with an idiot too long, people lose track of who is who anyway.

Hope your weekend is going well and thank you for the kind words. I hear you.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-10   17:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Ferret Mike, HOUNDDAWG (#166)

You two make a cute couple...you both like to hear yourselves so much, though, that I fear it might not last.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   17:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Ferret Mike (#166)

Woo HOO !

You put me back up to 13 filters...I know I'm short a couple 'Philes but I'm gainin' !!


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   17:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: FOH (#168)

goof.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2008-05-10   17:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Morgana le Fay (#169)

goof.

reprobate.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   17:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: FOH (#170)

ass hat!

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2008-05-10   17:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: buckeye (#160)

I can't argue with that. I just want to make sure the neocons no longer fool people with their communitarian/Hegelian dialectic propaganda. As long as they can turn Americans against each other using some BS they will be able to further destroy our economy, our freedom, liberty and the future of our country. I just wish some of these others would either wake up and see what is happening or go over and join LP where they believe all this crap.

It's time we realize it is Americans for America and run these elitist pukes into the sea and tell them to swim for Europe or some other place. I see Israel is again pushing for an attack on Iran. I'm beginning to think allowing the Zionists to create the state of Israel was the biggest mistake in the past 100 years.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-10   18:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#172)

It's time we realize it is Americans for America and run these elitist pukes into the sea and tell them to swim for Europe or some other place.

Sign me up. I want some of that...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   18:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: bush_is_a_moonie, FOH (#172)

I'm beginning to think allowing the Zionists to create the state of Israel was the biggest mistake in the past 100 years.

Israel has absolutely nothing to do with our future, our liberty, our prosperity. The daily news and disinfotainment media say otherwise, incessantly. Americans are committed to a world of every man for himself, until banks that are too big to fail do, and Israel (or the ADL) announces that a Jew has been criticized.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   18:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: buckeye (#174)

Israel has absolutely nothing to do with our future, our liberty, our prosperity.

Yeah, but EVERYONE it seems wants the focus "Over there" on "them"...take your pick what 'over there' and who 'them' includes.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   19:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: All (#175)

The problem is right here, amongst us on 4um even...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   19:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: FOH, scrapper2 (#175)

Listen to former Guantanmo prisoner and UK citizen Mozzam Begg talking about the use of torture to obtain 9/11 confessions, which he claims were used to justify the war in Iraq. We know that Saddam was sympathetic to Islamism, but it also threatened his regime. Bush, Powell, Rice, and other NeoCons lied about the linkage between Islamism and Iraq to get us into a war that would implement the clean break policy of expanding Israeli hegemony.

Israel controls Washington DC, much more than Saudi Arabia, China, or the "former" Soviet union. The RIIA, the CFR, and the Bilderberg group are Zionist and globalist. They fit together like a cold hand in a steel glove.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   19:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: buckeye (#177)

Israel controls Washington DC, much more than Saudi Arabia, China, or the "former" Soviet union. The RIIA, the CFR, and the Bilderberg group are Zionist and globalist. They fit together like a cold hand in a steel glove.

Isn't the heart of the beast in Europe, predating current Israel?


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   19:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: FOH (#178) (Edited)

Creating the state of Israel was immediately on their agenda, from what I understand. The JBS feels a certain pressure not to discuss this aspect of the RIIA and CFR. But the CFR created the UN, and one of the first orders of business of the UN was to implement the Zionist aspect of the Balfour agreement.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   19:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: buckeye (#177)

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-10   20:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: buckeye (#179)

Creating the state of Israel was immediately on their agenda, from what I understand. The JBS feels a certain pressure not to discuss this aspect of the RIIA and CFR. But the CFR created the UN, and one of the first orders of business of the UN was to implement the Zionist aspect of the Balfour agreement.

Basically the same 'people' that created Iraq out of whole cloth ?


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-10   20:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: bush_is_a_moonie, FOH (#180)

Franz Kafka: The Trial.

But the hands of one of the gentleman were laid on K.'s throat, while the other pushed the knife deep into his heart and twisted it there, twice. As his eyesight failed, K. saw the two gentlemen cheek by cheek, close in front of his face, watching the result. "Like a dog!" he said, it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.
This is America today.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-10   20:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: christine (#0)

Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans

In that case ... fuck him !

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation".

Vladimir Lenin

noone222  posted on  2008-05-10   20:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: buckeye (#67)

I could care less about these ratings.

In other words, you can't find an unfavorable rating for Hagel from a gun organization.

And Hagel is signed on as a cosponsor of Obama's bill.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-11   10:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: aristeides (#184)

You're off topic. Would you care to discuss the merits of redistributing American wealth and funding the United Nations and its Millennium Declaration? Is that what you want? I don't want it. I want the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. Hegel simply proves his allegiance to the CFR's one-world government agenda by supporting Obama in this travesty.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   15:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: buckeye (#174) (Edited)

This is interesting....

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Bringing the UPF Vision to a Druze Annual Gathering

by Hod Ben Zvi, Secretary General, UPF-Israel Friday, April 25, 2008 The Druze celebration in honor of the prophet Shu’eib on April 25, 2008 offered an opportunity to promote the interfaith vision of this year’s Global Peace Festival in Israel.

Nebi [prophet] Shu'eib is identified with the biblical Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses. He is revered as the chief Druze prophets, and his tomb near Tiberias overlooking the Sea of Galilee is the site of an annual gathering of many of the approximately 120,000 Druze living in Israel.

In planning the gathering, we held several consultations with Ambassador for Peace Sheik Ali Birani and other key Druze leaders: Sheik Taufik Salame, Mr. Yakub Salame, and Sheik Samih Natur.

On April 25, about 10,000 people gathered in front of the main stage, and throughout the entire period about 30,000 people passed through the area to pay their respects. Our delegation from Jerusalem included the UPF Regional Chair Dr. Sang Jin Lee and UPF-Israel Chair Dr. Masatoshi Abe. Key Muslim and Christian leaders were present to honor the occasion.

Upon arriving at Nebi Shu’eib’s tomb we offered our prayers and right after that met several of the Druze leaders. We were warmly welcomed by Sheik Taufik Salame, who prepared an extraordinary meal for us. Many of the senior sheiks gathered around us, and we had an inspiring discussion about the Global Peace Festival as a celebration of life promoting strong families, service to others, and interreligious harmony. We explored some of the similarities between the Druze tradition and what the UPF is trying to accomplish. I talked about the vision of spiritual leaders playing significant roles in promoting peace and good governance.

At the podium, various political and religious speakers offered greetings. Dr. Masatoshi Abe offered greetings on behalf of Father and Mother Moon and a prayer of blessing for those assembled. Then the spiritual leader of the Druze, Sheik Moafak Tarif, gave the main holiday address, followed by greetings from the president of Israel, Mr. Shimon Peres.

After the public gathering, we met with several Knesset members, one government minister, and Israel’s president introducing ourselves and the work of UPF.

A grand feast featured delicious foods from the different villages from around the country. Each village and family sent homemade foods which were very unique and colorful. People shared happily with one another.

We were able to meet many of the Druze sheiks who attended the International Leadership Conference in Tiberias in October 2007. They expressed their desire to continue the interaction and further explore spiritual and family values. We then went to Sheik Ali Birani’s home at Daliat El Carmel and spent time reflecting about the event.

WhatHaveWe Here?

Throughout more than fifty years, the Reverend and Mrs. Sun Myung Moon have devoted themselves to the pursuit of peace, and they have established numerous organizations and foundations whose main focus has been world peace.

These include the Professors World Peace Academy, the Women's Federation for World Peace, the Youth Federation for World Peace, the Inter-Religious Federation for World Peace, the World Media Association, the International Conference on the Unity of the Sciences, the Summit Council for World Peace, the Universal Peace Federation, and others.

AndHere?

A Providential View of the Pacific Rim Era in Light of God's Will: The United States and the Future Direction of the United Nations and the World

Rev. Dr. Sun Myung Moon, Founder, Universal Peace Federation New York, United States, September 23, 2007

Among the 6.5 billion people on the earth today, almost five billion are our neighbors, relatives, and brothers and sisters belonging to the Pacific Rim region. Many of us share the same roots in the sphere of the Mongolian peoples. There is nothing we cannot do if we receive the Marriage Blessing and pull together centering on God's ideal for peace! The future of humanity is in our hands.

God's providence has now spread from the North American continent and has blossomed as an island civilization, the Japanese archipelago, which is in a position similar to that previously held by the United Kingdom. It is now about to fulfill its destiny by coming to fruition on the Korean peninsula, the homeland of the True Parents who have emerged on the earth as the Savior of humanity and the returning Messiah.

The Korean peninsula, which stands in a similar position to that of Rome in Jesus' time, is regarded as an area of conflict between the sphere of the religions and the sphere of politics, which have the mission of resolving the world's problems. From a geo-political point of view, the Korean peninsula is still an arena of intense confrontation despite the ongoing work to secure world peace.

The principles of restoration through indemnity dictate that civilization must bear fruit in the Pacific Rim region, centered on the Korean peninsula. Fortunately, during the Korean War, the UN forces, centering on the United States, were mobilized to protect the peninsula. Yet, they did not recover the homeland and hometown of God's desire as they should have according to God's will, and they left the job half done. As a result, global conflict and strife continued during "the Cold War." People were deprived of their possessions and displaced, leading them to search for God.

IsThatRight?

upf.org/index2.php?option...true&width=480&height=360

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-11   17:22:26 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#186)

Bizarre.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   18:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: buckeye, bush_is_a_moonie (#187)

A Providential View of the Pacific Rim Era in Light of God's Will: The United States and the Future Direction of the United Nations and the World

Yeah, the cesspool aka the UN is antithetical to God, nice try mooner. These guys make it up as they go, to fit their power trip, end sovereignty and take the World's throne.

I'm personally excited to believe that God's spirit might be on the move...it's about time for a revival if the planet is going to survive much longer, putting off what I believe is inevitable.

I believe the Bible and do believe in spite of my massive imperfections, and the Revelator shares with us God's message for days like these...global governance (obvious as the elephant in the room I guess), demonic "King" - antiChrist, misery, death, destruction, etc.

Doesn't mean I'm not supposed to fight the evil of our times nor in any way am I to conform to it...I obey lawfully constituted authority and disregard, circumnavigate and otherwise avoid the evil as much as I can...which is not necessarily simple...Hucklebee the "Christian" World Socialist sucked the moonies in to keep Ron Paul out, jmo


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: buckeye (#187)

Looks like the Zionists are definitely part of the Moonie one world religion NWO bunch.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-11   19:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: FOH (#188)

I'm personally excited to believe that God's spirit might be on the move...it's about time for a revival if the planet is going to survive much longer, putting off what I believe is inevitable.

Let's not rush this along here, and let's not assume that modern day Israel has anything to do with it at all, when it does come.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   19:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: PSUSA (#12)

For some reason, people believe him when he talks about "change". Every other candidate from time immemorial has promised change. No one ever delivered, except changes for the worst.

What's that definition of insanity? Something about doing the same things over and over again, while expecting a different result each time?

Obama supporters are insane. So are Klintons and McNuts supporters.

That is a bullseye.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   19:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#189)

Looks like the Zionists are definitely part of the Moonie one world religion NWO bunch.

There are plenty of cultural motifs for them to evoke in westerners' minds.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   19:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: buckeye (#187)

False Messiahs of Today

José Luis De Jesús Miranda

Puerto Rican preacher José Luis De Jesús Miranda says a wondrous thing happened to him in 1976 when he was living in Massachusetts. He claims that two heavenly beings took him to a marble hall where an apparition merged with his body and began to speak inside of him. De Jesus believes that he and Jesus Christ became one and the same in that instant. He now has a following of 100,000 plus.

Moon

Moon is a South Korean citizen and the founder and leader of the Unification Church, a world-wide occult organization that believes Moon to be the "Messiah" sent by God to complete the earthly mission of Jesus. His followers number in the millions.

Raelians

An atheist religion led by Claude Vorilhon, who calls himself Rael - the last four letters of "Israel". The group claims a membership of at least 55,000 followers worldwide. "Raelians" believe that scientists from another planet created the human race, and that monotheism should be totally replaced by science.

Maitreya

He has been expected for generations by all of the world's major religions.

A alot more at the link.

www.falsemessiahs.com/index.html

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-11   21:26:29 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#193)

Any chance that one or more of these were lab experiments?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   21:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: buckeye (#194)

And when they combined them all together they ended up with gw bush.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-05-11   21:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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