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Title: Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=1992
Published: May 10, 2008
Author: FourWinds 10
Post Date: 2008-05-10 05:42:39 by christine
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This is just in from Sen. Coburn’s office. Obama has authored a bill, and it is now in the Senate, to give the UN .7% of our GNP to be used to feed hungry 3rd worlders, AND to use UN force to disarm you and me and all gun owners. No one in the media has brought this to the attention of the general sheeple out here. Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Obama’s bill S2433 passed the committee and going to the Senate Senator Coburn is blocking this bill. Patrick Guinn Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for "food" to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations. The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation. The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol. http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_2433.html Detailed Summary Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs. Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports. Defines specified terms. Status of the Legislation Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008: Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 718. http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-on-barack-obama-s2433-global.html More on Barack Obama’s S.2433 : Global Poverty Act We know for a fact that this bill will cost America $845 billion above and beyond what America already spends on global aid in the next thirteen years. America will be locked in to giving .7 percent of the U.S. gross national product. That in itself is scary enough, but there is way more to Obama’s bill. It also locks us into United Nations Millennium Summit. Cliff Kincaid from Accuracy in Media is all over this bill. He writes-(Underlined by me) The bill institutes the United Nations Millennium Summit goals as the benchmarks for U.S. spending. "It is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day," a statement issued by supporters, including Obama, said. Specifically, it would "declare" that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is "required" to "develop and implement" a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be "specific and measurable." Kincaid said that after cutting through all of the honorable-sounding goals in the plan, the bottom line is that the legislation would mandate the 0.7 percent of the U.S. GNP as "official development assistance." "In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning ’small arms and light weapons’ and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," he said. Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims. Kincaid also reported Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the "Millennium Project," confirms a U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP would add about $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already donates overseas. And the only way to raise that funding, Sachs confirms, "is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels," Kincaid writes. On the forum run by Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, one writer reported estimates of taxes from 35 cents to $1 dollar a gallon on gasoline would be needed.(LINK) This ladies and gentleman is the Barack Obama vision for America . WND called Obama’s office and the others who support this bill….No comments. See Obama’s Global Tax Bill (S.2433) Change Obama can believe in: Socialism?
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#1. To: christine, All, *SHTF - Survival* (#0)
But, what about Obamas' ass .... I mean boot lickers on this forum? Do they support this "lesser of 3 evils"? Are they willing to sell me (us) out? You're damn right they are. Obamas' cheerleaders can't bend over fast enough. Good luck with your plans, fella. I really hope you try. I am not getting any younger, and I dont want the kids to have to do it.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. ------- http://policestateusa.net/
"If you don't support Obaba, you're supporting the killing of innocents." - boot licker
Well, here we go. This must be Obasmic for the commies.
The PILES will find a way to rationalize this, after all he is the color of mocha, therefore pure of heart.
I need to buy another bag of UN blue balloons for interactive target practice.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
B-b-but all of Obama's supporters on here said he wasn't a communist. Now I feel like they may have been mislead (or something).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Or trying to mislead.
The irony being that much of the aid given to the third world is used to buy guns.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
S. 2433 (whose 15 cosponsors include 4 Republicans, Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel) would do no such thing. All that it would require the executive branch to do is to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide , between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day, and to file a report on the strategy with Congress. Everything else in the bill (which makes no mention of Kyoto, the ICC, or firearms, as far as I can see) is hortatory, without legal effect. If it were so controversial, do you think Lugar would have signed on as a cosponsor?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I stayed up all night, sick over the thought of the Myanmar junta not allowing humanitarian aid into their country. Maybe we can divert it to New Orleans?
Why don't you read the bill before you go off half-cocked?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That is their "logic" in a nutshell. False choice. For some reason, people believe him when he talks about "change". Every other candidate from time immemorial has promised change. No one ever delivered, except changes for the worst. What's that definition of insanity? Something about doing the same things over and over again, while expecting a different result each time? Obama supporters are insane. So are Klintons and McNuts supporters.
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Does Alex Jones still get wild eyed and spittle dripping about Bush having Bin Laden frozen in some meat locker? I haven't listened to the guy for a while.
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I heard this morning that food aid was in fact being diverted to meet other government contractual obligations. Some of the food boxes distributed were given to various Generals to distribute as they saw fit, as there is an election or referendum going on.
Jones has become incoherent of late. Once one knows the govt is rotten, minor details become less important, to me at least.
I'm guessing population control. Nothing new under the sun.
Minor details like inaccurate quotations from Michelle Obama's senior thesis?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm not sure how this works. I should believe the claim above, but disregard the one about Bush having Bin Laden frozen? How do I tell which of his stories are real and which are just loony?
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That's putting it mildly.
Selective population control. Those who do are not starved to death, will vote for the right General.
What I do is take in all info, and do my own research.
She appears to be an angry racist, so I want to read her thesis for myself.
yeah, it's controversial, but not for the globalist treasonous anti-america establishment politicians Rs and Ds. in case i haven't stressed this to you enough, i see them as the same. it's controversial alright, for WE THE PEOPLE.
These programs never work. Instead of reducing poverty all they achieve is increasing population.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Might have something to do with Lugar being a puppet of big agriculture.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
OK. I prefer to go off fully cocked. So lets read the bill. (ii) An evaluation, to the extent possible, both proportionate and absolute, of the contributions provided by the United States and other national and international actors in achieving the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. This worthless platitude was prominent in several places in this bill. So, we make it possible for them to live on $2 per day and declare "mission accomplished", with banners? Perhaps W could land in Darfur in a F18, flight suit and all, and the people there will be so grateful to have their income doubled. Our own war on poverty has been a great resounding sucess. Perhaps they can use it as a template for further efforts. Throw $$$ at them, that will solve it. Everything .gov touches turns to gold. Want to end poverty? Get rid of the corrupt governments that use OUR money, food and medicine as weapons. But we cannot do that, because they are some of our very best allies.
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Your title says the bill is to "disarm Americans." I see nothing like that in the bill. And the fact that it has 4 Republican cosponsors confirms that there's nothing like that in it.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The bill may well be a boondoggle, but the article here presents it as something much worse than that.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
He's also a senator from a state with voters who would not appreciate being disarmed.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Section three: We HAVE NO CHOICE but to politically oppose every one of these candidates.
To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons. Now what does that mean? Could mean anything, they don't specify.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Perhaps. There are 2 topics here; foreign aid and small arms. I dont know how they got their numbers relating to foreign aid. I'd need to look more closely at it, to decide. AJ does, imo, have a tendency to exaggerate sometimes. There have been times that he said something, and I check it out, and I have no idea how he reached his conclusion. Other times, most times, he is right. About small arms: Treaties take precedence over the Constitution. This is dangerous. That small arms treaty, while supposedly trying to stem violence in other developing countries, will be used to disarm us here.
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For their unabashed "goals" to be achieved, it must be done, and it shall be done one small step at a time, one way or another. These "goals" are not new. They've always been the same. The American people were once free. But they have to be completely dominated and emasculated before the global government machine can swing into unfettered action.
Obama's bill mentions the Millennium Development Goals, but nowhere does it give them the force of law. It directs the executive branch to take account of certain named goals among those Millennium Development Goals in developing and implementing the strategy it mandates, but nothing about disarmament measures or making arms transfers more transparent is among the goals that it names.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Ignoring your fantasy of legal interpretation (as if that matters in Congress anymore) it's what Obama wants that indicates his unacceptability as a candidate any freedom-loving citizen should support. That goes for the others, too. Maybe this concept is too harsh for you.
This article is about how scary Obama's bill allegedly is. I point out that it's not scary. So you tell me it doesn't matter what Obama's bill says.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I agree. It has been going on for years. I am "only" in my 40s and it's a different country from what I grew up in. I talked to my dad not too long ago and I asked him if he has ever seen things this bad. He hasn't. The only thing he said was that he had trouble finding work in the early 60s after he left the service. But on the whole, he hasnt seen it this bad before. The "men" in this country have already, imo, been emasculated and dominated. There aren't that many real men out there. They can act against us at any time.
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That's what you said, not I.
You are using the disarmament issue as a red herring. At the core of the issue is that Obama (and Lugar) feel it is the proper role of the US government to aid those in the third world, with multinational corporations taking a healthy cut along the way, at the expense of US citizens. It was meddling by western governments and corporations that caused most of the problems to begin with, how is more of the same going to help?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
I agree. Thank you for the illustrating the code.
Ari is too brain-damaged and addled to recognize that we're moving past another point of no return here.
Now what does that mean? Could mean anything, they don't specify. I was just reading about SKorea's efforts to work with NKorea with respect to disarmament for food. That might fit in the 'regional disarmament' category... I think I saw it on 'Newsvine'.
Is the title of the article about disarming Americans, or is it not?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You call this debate? Weak.
Fine, you argue with the author of the title and I'll continue protesting against being taxed by the UN.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Lugar has always been a leading New World Order/One World Government proponent in Congress.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
And the fact that it has 4 Republican cosponsors confirms that there's nothing like that in it. Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
SKorea to Review NKorea Aid Projects www.newsvine.com/_news/20...rea-to-review-nkorea-aid- projects South Korea's incoming president has raised the possibility of canceling aid projects promised to North Korea by his liberal predecessor if they fail to make economic sense and are not in line with the communist country's nuclear disarmament. SKorean Rice Diverted to NKorean Army www.newsvine.com/_news/20...skorean-rice-diverted-to- nkorean-army Haiti government, U.N. to seek to disarm gangs Program to use money, food, job training as lure for all but gang leaders www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14671719/ FOOD FOR PEACE www.wfp.org/newsroom/benetton /peace/ World Hunger FactSheet (interesting) www.wfp.org/newsroom/bene...lobal_hunger/global_hunge r-E-2003.pdf BTW, John Edwards was on MSNBC Friday morning discussing his involvement in: A National Goal: End Poverty Within 30 Years www.johnedwards.com/issues/pov erty/ Of course, we knows who pays.
And the fact that it has 4 Republican cosponsors confirms that there's nothing like that in it. Virtually every Republican voted for the so called Assault Weapons and Extended Magazine ban. And, Bush would have renewed it (as he promised as candidate Bush) had it not sunset before the last election when he was hedging all bets. In fact, every bad gun law that has ever passed did so with the support of Republicans. So called gun friendly Republicans think it's okay for civilians to own diamond-crusted Elmer Fudd Commemorative Model Double Barreled Wabbit Guns like the expensive Perazzi that a drunken Dick Cheney used to hose that lawyer. But when it comes to the weapons that are suitable for militia use, the Pubs are as afraid of them as the most snivelingly liberal anti gun Democrat. It makes perfect sense that some neocons would love to allow the blue helmets to attempt to disarm the people. Then the Pubs could hunker down while the blue helmets do the dirty work while the Pubs are blaming the UN and international law. But, they have no intention of surrendering the nukes with which they intend to control the UN and the rest of the world. In short, the belief that the Republican Party is staunchly pro gun is a myth. In the past The Pubs opposed Democrat-sponsored gun control efforts, but they'd cheerfully vote for the exact same legislation today if Bush proposed it. Not one Republican will stand up and say, "The 2nd amendment is intended to serve as the final check and balance against an all tyrannical government." And, they fear those "ugly black guns" such as semi auto versions of the military M-16 and M4 as much as the Dems, because both "parties" (actually, orgies is a more accurate term) are equally culpable in the systematic destruction of the Bill Of Rights and America as we know it. The assertion that Republican signatories is a guarantee that the bill contains no anti gun language is thinking from a bygone era, and it certainly doesn't reflect the reality of the past 40 years since the passage (with bi-partisan support) of the 1968 GCA.
Perhaps you can point to the anti-gun provision in Obama's bill. I don't see it.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA !! Good one O'ari. With World Communist (L.O.S.T.-NAU anyone?) pubbies like THAT...who needs World Communists RATS ? Funny how you point to the RINO-CFR members/types to say give it that 'bi'partisan flavor.
Lugar is CFR. I learned all I needed to know about him when I read in a Rothschild publication that Lugar was an intelligent right winger. I remember when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed one senator after another said that this bill would not become a quota system. And we have been unable to rid ourselves of affirmative action 44 years.
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Lugar is CFR. I learned all I needed to know about him when I read in a Rothschild publication that Lugar was an intelligent right winger. I remember when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed one senator after another said that this bill would not become a quota system. And we have been unable to rid ourselves of affirmative action 44 years. Chuck Hagel sure is CFR. Olympia Snowe sure is CFR. Lugar...Top World Class quisling.
Really? Perhaps you can show me one gun control bill any of those four voted against.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
You have to be ignorant or intellectually dishonest to support McHillObama, the CFR's Dream Team of bottom feeding puppets...no one on 4um can claim the former.
As is coming soon to Amerika, only the Police State class/UP will be assured of having their/families' needs met in the artificially-induced chaos and misery that's been charted for US...
yeah, it's controversial, but not for the globalist treasonous anti-america establishment politicians Rs and Ds. in case i haven't stressed this to you enough, i see them as the same. it's controversial alright, for WE THE PEOPLE. A bump and a TY for another great thread...
Hagel scores A by NRA on pro-gun rights policies. You can read about Hagel's record on gun bills here: Chuck Hagel on Gun Control. That record includes: Stands to reason for a Republican senator from Nebraska.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
We've seen it all. It's disgusting. The only relief I get is by looking at the TOSses to see just how much more deep into the chaos they have fallen than 4. Pro-McCain commentary is akin to our pro-Obama commentary.
You think the NRA has credibility as a pro-gun organization? You're a sad, sad excuse for a liberty activist.
We HAVE NO CHOICE but to politically oppose every one of these candidates. I don't recall ever having 3 (THREE) such CFR-One World Monopolists selections as this...people right here on this 4um are moles working to these ends right in front of our eyes.
If you bothered to read the NRA site you so much dislike, perhaps you would see that it provides an answer to your question.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
They're just weak-minded. This is the result of the demoralization that Bezmenov talks about in the video I just posted. It's plain to see. These people live in kaleidescope world of self-made morals, artificial rules of physics, and twisted treatment of human language -- letting words mean whatever they want.
Of course, if some other gun organization of which you approve has also rated Hagel, nothing is preventing you from giving the rest of us a link to such a rating.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Thank all that is good for Christine and 4um...I say. Anything pro-CFR puppet is anti-American.
I could care less about these ratings. The important thing here is that you're stumping for a gun control proponent. We won't be distracted by that. You condone gun control by doing so. It's very clear.
Yes. And some are very STRONG minded, working tirelessly their whole lives for a moment like this...an opening where under cover of "You're a racist!" they can pass off their most despicable creatures yet. They are Global-Liberal Utopians...Progressives/Socialists/Communists that love such things as the United luciferian Nations and utterly hate what made America great...especially God, they really hate Him.
It's not strong minded to be a useful idiot.
Well, the bill makes many references to the United Nations Millennium Declaration and incorporates it in the intent of the bill in multiple sections. And, the United Nations Millennium Declaration reads as follows: "• To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons." Now, the language appears to limit any gun grabs to illicit weapons, but it doesn't say that and no such limitation would exist upon adoption of this bill. It is very clear that the presence of some illegal guns (in our inner cities for instance) could be used to not only seize those weapons, but to attempt to close off the source of those guns, the law abiding suburbanites and gun dealers who legally purchased them and had them stolen from us or purchased through straw man transactions then supplied to criminals. We gun owners are well aware that the 2nd amendment is the final obstacle to their global banker govt, and, just as govt lawyers can "reinterpret" language including the bill of rights to mean something entirely contrary to its original intent, this type of ambiguous language would be elevated to "The Word Of The Almighty" in the wrong hands, while similar language regarding nuclear treaty/monitoring/disarmament would be ignored just as it is in Israel and the US today. Even though this is a report from Alex Jones (a profiteering scare monger) it has been interpreted and reported by other more reliable sources as a back door threat to our liberties and the means to protect them. When in doubt all bills should be suspect. We know that all proposed legislation should be viewed in its worst possible light, because history has taught us that this is the likely outcome.
You can read about Hagel's record on gun bills here: Chuck Hagel on Gun Control. That record includes: Stands to reason for a Republican senator from Nebraska. Nebraska is slipping into the stew quickly now but still there are enough patriots there that when push comes to shove they will kick your ass to the curb if you mess with the 'basics'...Hagel's certainly no dummy. A bright and strongly deluded quisling, yes. Dummy, no.
O-K !! lolol Some of these ARE long term lefty activists/moles here on 4um...
"Hi, I'm Chuckie The Cheese Baldwhine and FOH sucks my rod as well as my little son Timothy did when he was teething as a baby. I let this studmuffin sport my picture in his posts to show my gratitude and thanks because of this dedication by head bobbing he has done so many times for me." I am Chuckie the Cheeze Baldwhine and I approved this message.
Now what does that mean? Could mean anything, they don't specify. The North American regional disarmament has been well underway for some time...
Gun control is pretty much 95% effective now. Next it's word control. What will Chuck Hegel do with Senate Bill 1959?
Keep up the good work, O'turd. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you and what remains of your credibility on the Internet goes up in smoke... They reveal their inspirations with the filth they spew.
H.R. 1955...Senate version? Why, of course it is. You wascally 'domestic terrorist' you...
Another Jewish Protection Racket.
They've been pretty well outed on 4um now though...it won't be long.
The quisling class has covered every single base possible on the way to finishing US off with North American (EU-like) integration...you will like it, shut up or be dealt with. It's the LAW !
Most of these 4 leftists were supporting Ron Paul because they thought he would be friendly to same-sex marriage and illegal immigration.
Of course you like it, you like it a lot in fact. If you're an American, you're a traitor of the highest odor. But then we knew that already, didn't we O'ari...?
You stay on message and I'll stay on message about your homosexuality, sport. So far all you have done is slander me or do baitings about abortion inferring my anti-abortion stand is a lie. Keep calling me a commie, I know that you do it to promote the homosexual agenda you and your boy Baldie enjoy so much. As long as you are secretly sucking the dick and loosing the Kingdom, I will be here exposing this sorry game you play as a conspiratorial butt pirate. You assed for it, snuggles, you got it.
This you call "freedom." It's no wonder we're enslaved.
...and decrim. IMO Hey, smoke'm if ya got'em ! Although as we can see some people are not chemically/emotionally positioned to be able to cope with use/abuse of THC. The 60's clowns 'have come home to roost !' lolol
My work with you is done. And before long, you on 4um will be done. Keep up the good work.
Paul is rather tough on immigration, and I support Ron Paul because of his core integrity as a Constitutionalist, in spite of where we disagree. I appreciate an honest candidate with courage who will stand up for the Constitution. ;-D
This country is being destroyed by 68er intellectual vacuity.
Seems like the UN-types (Progressive/Socialist/Communist) could be partly described as 'metros'...
And you keep it up when you are poking it up Baldwhine's fat hairy white ass boy, my work with you is not done. As long as a homosexual mole like you is around, I will expose you to the light of day, gayboy. ;-D
I get a kick out of the bass turds saying "I supported Ron Paul because he was a Constitutionalist, except for where we disagreed" and now they support the Marxist racist Gun Grabbing baby infanticidal maniac Establishment candidate...heheheh
YEEHAW, got ya good there Corn Flake L-I-A-R. Calculate THAT and spin it !!! Better light up another one, the effects seem to be wearing off...
It's unclear. He's tougher than the top three candidates, but he steadfastly refused to admit that conservative politics, first having been infiltrated by Zionists, are now being completely undermined by the pro-immigration lobby.
I respectfully disagree. He/she/it knows it and has been working for this day for a LONG long time...Marxist revolutionary mole.
You fuck bass up the ass too? Do you do this as part of your perverted foreplay with Baldie the penis gulper when the two of you fish? What a sick lifestyle the two of you enjoy together. Let me guess, you do it for the kids, because you two did it to Baldie's kids when they were toddlers. What a sick faggot fuck you and he are boy, you are truly disgusting.
He's out in the open in that regard. He's addled to think it's not transparent. But one has to be in a mentally weakened state to adopt and maintain Marxist ideologies, by definition.
Keep in mind that the American people make up the largest standing army in the world. So, these shadow masters wouldn't dare try to take our guns by brute force. They keep trying to sell the people on different measures that they hope we'll swallow, and in the process they keep pushing toward international treaties that pre-empt our constitution. It is their fond hope that they can sneak some language through that the American people will feel is binding on us, or at least that enough people will accept to divide and demoralize us. Then the news media will show blue helmets and local police swarming on some enclave of drug dealers, and the years of conditioning to accept anything that bears the appearance of lawful conduct will hopefully result in mass resignation and acceptance that the war is indeed lost. Remember, we were told after the WACO hearings that the ATF would never again pull a SWAT-style raid, and the agency came very close to being abolished by congress. (But none of the other federal agencies would agree to hire the disgraced ATF agents) But, as we've seen the ATF is well on their way to recovery, and the enemies of the 2nd amendment have time on their side.... We have to win every battle, but they only have to win once. My friend Red Beckman said that it's a race between the collapse of the economy and the grabbing of the guns, and which comes first will determine who controls America. I wouldn't worry too much about a gun grab. I believe that the federal reserve will go tits up first, and then we'll have to settle other issues such as what land is ours and what type of govt will we (and "they", the blacks, Hispanics and state worshiping multi cultis) adopt.
You sir, are dreaming. The dream is carefully maintained by gatekeeper organizations like the NRA. Disillusion yourself as soon as possible.
Lugar has always been a leading New World Order/One World Government proponent in Congress. The problem is that the CFR is deep into every area of America; military, economic, goobermint, media, etc. they have changed the definitions to the point that they try to sell us these 'pubbie' OWMs as "not Ds"...are you aware of Lugar's L.O.S.T. ?
heheheheh BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You must have gotten one of his goats.
There ya go. They get away with this crap on the sheeple, but not here on 4um...
At least. Now that they're out in the open I'm just having some fun...like a cat playing with a loopy mouse.
Exactly right. Great post...
We have has such dishonest and compromised presidents so long, sometimes I feel like Diogenes of Sinope who used to wander Athens when it was a city state looking for one honest man when contemplating presidential candidate. I have been hoping to see buyer's regret help the Republicans avoid the train wreck a McCain presidency would be to them. Ron Paul by far is the best choice for the top of the ticket, and if he can get on the ticket, even for the VP slot, I would support it in November.
You're long on insults and short on facts. Why don't you try offering some intelligent points that we can discuss? (I know why, but I want to show others that you can't do that) Keep in mind that in real world debates people like you sit on the sidelines with their mouths shut. There's no reason to assume that your lack of facts (or inability to present them intelligently) has any more legitimacy on the internet.
Quid pro quo, no matter what I say to him I'm a dirty commie, so I am exposing his hidden homosexual agenda making him lie so. The little butt pirate assed for it, so he's going to get grudge fucked.
IIRC, as I note below, there is every reason to be scared or concerned. The USSC looks at bills and the underlying paperwork when they prepare to rule on cases--they look for the 'intent' of the congresscowards when they pass legislation. Surely, someone who went thru law school and taught law read something of this when they studied about the USSC.......surely, they did do that, didn't they? BY putting all the bullshit in about the united nations, it allows the USSC to interpret that we go along with these bastards and their desire to eliminate weapons in the hands of the peons so they can stick their hands deeper and deeper into the pockets of said peons. And as to that USSC, I can't recall the exact words your candidate used as it regards selecting them, but it was to the effect that he wanted ones who know what it was like to be on the short end of the stick, so to speak. I do believe there will be at least two retirees...Stevens and Ginsberg, and a possible Kennedy, which would tilt the court in a new direction probably. Besides, you can't even count on the alleged 'conservative' ones, or should I say the "R" ones--can't really do that cause they're all over the place, too. As an aside--the comment regarding 4 Rs signing the legislation.........BFD. Lugar is an internationalist--he could give a rats' patootie about the united states. Snow is a NE liberal. Hagel is all over the place. And Smith--I presume is Gordon, and if so, nuff said.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
What's intellectually vacuous on your part is to assume that there could be a significant improvement from one party to the other. They pursue the attachment of different fetters, using the rules of the Hegelian dialectic, with each swing of the political pendulum. You're a leftist tool, just like the Falwell caricatures you snub on the right.
There have been articles describing the preparations for such. And if the miliary balks, as with NKorea, they will shrink belt sizes.
We're running out of time. I'm assuming you can think for yourself, and that eventually you'll realize that by 1994, the Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto's "blades of grass" were decayed tinder, and the patriot movement was a hollowed out FBI operation. The last frontier is freedom of speech. But we've always known that.
And if the miliary balks, as with NKorea, they will need shrink belt sizes. Yup, and so far it's all been on their terms...but they've gotten all their ducks in a row for when/if enough Americans wake up. It's a race right now and not a marathon but a sprint. The long revolution's end is in sight for them...lots of US see it too.
Is that the Law of the Sea Treaty? They've been pushing that since the Carter Administration, haven't they?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Once again, brilliant spot on post.
Yes, exceptional.
Is that the Law of the Sea Treaty? They've been pushing that since the Carter Administration, haven't they? You are correct. Lugar's been the 'mover' on this along with his reptilian colleagues: Richard G. Lugar, United States Senator for Indiana - U.S. ... I believe they currently profit from the status quo, where victimology is the weapon to silence protest. When they cease to profit, and that time will come, they are as expendable as anyone. The ends justifies the means sort of 'law'. Often accusing others of being unenlightened, they are well aware of history, and can see where this is leading, yet, they cheer it on. Happy little bat- bearing bastards.
I respectfully disagree. The NRA doesn't give a tinkers damn about the militia or the possibility that we will have to fight our own government one day soon just so we can restore what has been stolen from us. All they care about is "sporting firearms", and feathering their own nest, and protecting their precious perks. Fuck the NRA. Fuck them. The way I see it, if 1 in 100 firearms owner resists, that will be more than enough. I see it as closer to 10% that will actively resist, and another X% that will help.
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The same can be said about any human to some degree. The observation does not bother me. I support Barack Obama essentially for two reasons, he is the only one of the three in contention who has the potential to break from any constraints others might seek to put on him, which I believe was something John Kennedy did ultimately compelling the shadow government to kill him. I also am extremely cynical about the honesty of the vote and know it has been compromised in a way to control outcome. I want to see people not give up on the democratic participation of voting because any thievery like this going on long enough is going to get decisively exposed. And an actively voting public who believes in the process is the one that will act with the right amount of rage and action to make those who steal fear for their very lives. You are free to call that wishful thinking on my part, but that is why I am participating and watching this process in this manner.
I'm simply astounded that on 4, where criticism of Israel is rife, the very same people would turn around and adopt Jewish-championed ideologies like Marxism, feminism, anti-tradition/religion, and environmentalism. This is the biggest irony. These people are basically under the control of Jewish intellectual systems.
Stop thinking of Chuckie the Cheese Baldwhine's hairy little ass, gay licker.
This is the biggest irony. These people are basically under the control of Jewish intellectual systems. World Government loving MultiCulti political correctors...they're in this deconstruction up to their eyeballs and have been since the 60s.
Jesus loves you Corn Flake Girl...
Another Jewish protection racket.
"Hi, I'm Chuckie the cheese Baldwhine, and my Friend FullOfHeadcheese (FOH) is a serious poster who approaches political efficacy with the same enthusiasm he tends to my ass to with his split little talented tongue of his. He's welcome to use my picture in his posts as long as he plants his man post up my rump." This message is approved by Chuckie the Cheese Baldwhine.
The last frontier is freedom of speech. But we've always known that. Perhaps. But, in the absence of any historical precedent I just don't understand how any mere mortal can be so damned sure of anything. At least not certain enough to hurl insults at folks with different points of view. Some of these folks whose rhetoric is a disappointment now may surprise you when the time comes. It doesn't benefit us to be remembered as angry reactionaries, and to squander bandwidth on rancor when we could be educating and planting ideas for them to ponder. This may be pissing on the altar but I for one would not want to be ruled by a know-it-all like the now deceased Bill Cooper. His rigidity of personality actually precluded any possibility of him revising his views, and he'd stick by them right into Hell before admitting he may have been mistaken. We can't win anything with that type of thinking, and in fact too many of the self appointed leaders of today suffer from the same disability.
You're situation is getting worse by the post...
I'm thinking history is already on my side of this argument, but I hope you're right. Remember, a huge proportion of those gun toting patriots watch TV. It will tell them what to do if the balloon goes up. And most will believe it.
Mikey ol' buddy, I think you've made your point and a little bit of that goes a loooong way. Okay? Thanks.
Stop thinking about corn holing, corn pone. I know the added pictures just get you hornier making it harder to post as your side activity here of flogging your man tool becomes more important then making your little old keyboard sticky. Here is one of two Cuntstitution Party men caucusing. They are the sort Chuck Baldwin likes to pay to shave their legs. Don't orgasm too hard over it now.
When you 'come out', you come out big...gotta give ya that Corn Flake Girl ! He's letting his freak flag fly. You know, the 68ers fought for and won so much for us... NOT.
Okay? Thanks." You mean my point that his constantly calling me a communist and Marx lover to harrass and belittle anything I have to say? That point? You don't mention this so of course I would appreciate you mentioning him to shut the hell up. Post the same message to him about his spam as you do here to me, I will back off for now. Because you ask and I'm sure you are not alone in your setiments. I am not a fucking communist, and I don't appreciate this fuckwit dogging my ass with his baiting. Send him the same message in regards to what annoys me, I will grant a cease fire from my end of things.
Now you know me. I would only vote for Obama if it means keeping psycho McCain out. What we are hearing is just more neocon propaganda. Gotta keep the Hegelian dialectic active ya know LOL. Here is the analysis of the bill. S. 2433 would require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to reduce global poverty. The strategy should include, among other things, more effective forms of development assistance, coordination of efforts with other countries and international organizations, and continuation of existing initiatives to reduce poverty and disease in developing countries. The bill also would require the State Department to prepare several reports describing the strategy, its implementation, and the progress made on achieving the objectives for reducing global poverty. Based on information from the State Department, CBO estimates that implementing S. 2433 would cost less than $1 million per year, assuming the availability of appropriated funds. Enacting the bill would not affect direct spending or receipts. S. 2433 contains no intergovernmental or private-sector mandates as defined in the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act and would not affect the budgets of state, local, or tribal governments. The CBO staff contact for this estimate is Michelle S. Patterson. This estimate was approved by Peter H. Fontaine, Assistant Director for Budget Analysis.
I have a room full of family and friends over and I'm shooting my monitor picture up on the digital projector for everyone to see. Needless to say, we're having a great time...LOLOL
Damn right.
This is the biggest irony. These people are basically under the control of Jewish intellectual systems. Well, afaic, they are under control of the darkside through it's many faces.
In 1968 you could fill up your tank in a car with 400 HP engine, and drive across the USA for about a $100. And now they ridicule you because you want to drive an SUV. That's freedom? These people welcome the chains being put on us.
What this rump ranger omits is that this is a room full of men only, all horny, with their hands on each other's penises. He also omits the fact he is not showing a projection of this forum, they are watching child porn at the diaper level. Old enough to bleed, old enough to butcher, right FOH?
Nation-destroying ideologies...
In my darker moments I agree with that. But, 30 years ago the Ruskies made fun of us because unlike them most Americans actually believed American news broadcasts. But, that isn't such a certainty since the Big Three lost their monopoly. And, once those couch potatoes have lost their creature comforts because filling up at the pump is cost prohibitive and every other activity is either mandatory or forbidden, they'll become the sidelined ninety percentile who neither hurt nor help while five percent fight for freedom and five percent oppose us. And, then they'll go along with whoever wins. And, for the record, I never include those NRA life member wabbit hunters in my calculations. Most of them will be absolutely worthless when the time comes, and they'll probably be preoccupied with abolishing the 22nd amendment so they can bring Bush back....
(ROFLOLOL!!!) You just put on the knee pads every day for them... These people are the tools of the enemy. They're the face you see...
When you do this little Cuntstitutional Party boy, do you suck in your gut to hide the extra pounds your age has hung on your carcass? Just curious, mind you.
I still call the NRA on its gate keeping role. They tout "America's first freedom," claiming it's the one that defends all others. So being a part of the NRA can make people believe that they're doing their part, even when pointedly they are not. By the way, the elite is smart enough to know better than to permit a confrontation. Slowly boiling the frog is working much too well.
I hate to interrupt your demon-inspired spew, Wiccan Marxist racist Corn Flake L-I-A-R, but it's time to serve lunch here. Take care now, ya hear !!
The tools most commonly used at a Cuntstitution Party men's caucus.
And here's the lunch he's anxious for.
Yes. Cutting and ripping at every fiber that built it's identity. Family, faith, rule of law, etc. These folks will not have an OJ jury in the end.
That point? You don't mention this so of course I would appreciate you mentioning him to shut the hell up. Post the same message to him about his spam as you do here to me, I will back off for now. Because you ask and I'm sure you are not alone in your setiments. I am not a fucking communist, and I don't appreciate this fuckwit dogging my ass with his baiting. Send him the same message in regards to what annoys me, I will grant a cease fire from my end of things. We've been down this road before. I spoke to bg because he and I are friends and fellow Sons Of The Commonwealth Of Virginia. I don't see any point in answering the repeated insults from FOH because I don't care if he sees my point of view. He seems undeterred by reason and he enjoys your obviously distressed replies. You're usually the cool, calm, mature kat who is virtually bullet proof, and that has been your strength in the past. Now, you've said it once. (You're not a kahmi-people with your military service record never are) and believe me, the folks whose opinions you care about have read it and/or already knew it, and there is nothing to be gained by wasting your intelligence in mosh pit talk wrestling. Let him have the last word and then lead by example and ignore him forever. I certainly intend to.
But the streets of Russia ran red with the blood of their enemies. The oppression here is just beginning. We have only seen a faint glimmering of what they have in mind for us. The HR 1955 style legislation is child's play compared to what they believe is necessary to protect them.
I hear you.
Certain Solzhenitsyn materials have not been published in English, such as his Two Hundred Years Together history of Jewish-Russian relations. One would hope that an enterprising citizen would correct that deficiency one day soon. Apparently some of it has been published now in The Solzhenitsyn Reader: New and Essential Writings, 1947-2005. Why not all? Why not more publicity. Gate keepers.
Nice post, I will consider your words.My better half and I are going to be heading off to a Pow Wow on campus and then will off in a remote area sweating and doing other fun stuff in rural Lane County tonight, so you are getting a break from this. And she hates my tack here as much as you do, so who knows? I might take your suggestion. (She is part Cherokee, and originally from Houston,Texas.) ;-D
I think you're probably right. FOH is just doing an ALS/yukon/Mudboy thing to keep the discussion off subjects he can't refute. I'd be curious to know the total percentage of posts here that are now going to his vapid sloganeering or silly attacks.
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I did a sweat lodge ceremony with some Indians in California. Years ago. I was surprised at how sweating like that really does get your skin cleaned out. Felt great afterward.
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Just say none of the above, BiaM. These figureheads have no real power. What's more, Obama can be convinced of the same extremism Bush and McCain have followed in the same way. When the next terror attack hits, his advisers will lie and say that everything possible was done to prevent it, and so more adventurism and tyranny will be required.
My complaint against Tool is their penchant for symbols of sadistic anarchy as some sort of escape valve. It's our rulers who are sadistic anarchists, refusing to concede Natural Law, and refusing to respect or even acknowledge individual free will. Tool is trapped in its own rebellion, emulating that which enslaves many.
Of course, but this is what THEY understand...this is THEIR language. This is HOW they view things. They just happened to put it to some rockin' muzak ! Very informative imo...instructional how NeoCommies/NeoCons have worked to develop and studiously, with cultish determination, maintain their symbiotic relationship which by it's nature destroys their host.
Building global consensus for establishing the state of Israel, then driving Jews to move there or support it, and now to fight global wars to defend its interests are significant factors in this. Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to retain their own Anglo-Saxon culture. Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to defend their own borders. Meanwhile, Americans are not permitted to practice their own religion in public settings. Meanwhile, Americans traditions are forced to succumb to massive levels of immigration. Symbiotic? I would call it parasitic. The host is dying.
Yes, the NeoCons and NeoCommies have united under the flag of Globalism and YES, it is a parasitic relationship because the host (our nation) is dying...;)
I appreciate the reality check and will respect the peer imput. I normally don't do so, but I will just put him on bozo and be done with him. When you argue with an idiot too long, people lose track of who is who anyway. Hope your weekend is going well and thank you for the kind words. I hear you.
You two make a cute couple...you both like to hear yourselves so much, though, that I fear it might not last.
Woo HOO ! You put me back up to 13 filters...I know I'm short a couple 'Philes but I'm gainin' !!
goof.
reprobate.
ass hat!
I can't argue with that. I just want to make sure the neocons no longer fool people with their communitarian/Hegelian dialectic propaganda. As long as they can turn Americans against each other using some BS they will be able to further destroy our economy, our freedom, liberty and the future of our country. I just wish some of these others would either wake up and see what is happening or go over and join LP where they believe all this crap. It's time we realize it is Americans for America and run these elitist pukes into the sea and tell them to swim for Europe or some other place. I see Israel is again pushing for an attack on Iran. I'm beginning to think allowing the Zionists to create the state of Israel was the biggest mistake in the past 100 years.
Sign me up. I want some of that...
Israel has absolutely nothing to do with our future, our liberty, our prosperity. The daily news and disinfotainment media say otherwise, incessantly. Americans are committed to a world of every man for himself, until banks that are too big to fail do, and Israel (or the ADL) announces that a Jew has been criticized.
Yeah, but EVERYONE it seems wants the focus "Over there" on "them"...take your pick what 'over there' and who 'them' includes.
The problem is right here, amongst us on 4um even...
Listen to former Guantanmo prisoner and UK citizen Mozzam Begg talking about the use of torture to obtain 9/11 confessions, which he claims were used to justify the war in Iraq. We know that Saddam was sympathetic to Islamism, but it also threatened his regime. Bush, Powell, Rice, and other NeoCons lied about the linkage between Islamism and Iraq to get us into a war that would implement the clean break policy of expanding Israeli hegemony. Israel controls Washington DC, much more than Saudi Arabia, China, or the "former" Soviet union. The RIIA, the CFR, and the Bilderberg group are Zionist and globalist. They fit together like a cold hand in a steel glove.
Isn't the heart of the beast in Europe, predating current Israel?
Creating the state of Israel was immediately on their agenda, from what I understand. The JBS feels a certain pressure not to discuss this aspect of the RIIA and CFR. But the CFR created the UN, and one of the first orders of business of the UN was to implement the Zionist aspect of the Balfour agreement.
Basically the same 'people' that created Iraq out of whole cloth ?
Franz Kafka: The Trial.
In that case ... fuck him !
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation". Vladimir Lenin
In other words, you can't find an unfavorable rating for Hagel from a gun organization. And Hagel is signed on as a cosponsor of Obama's bill.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You're off topic. Would you care to discuss the merits of redistributing American wealth and funding the United Nations and its Millennium Declaration? Is that what you want? I don't want it. I want the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. Hegel simply proves his allegiance to the CFR's one-world government agenda by supporting Obama in this travesty.
This is interesting.... Bringing the UPF Vision to a Druze Annual Gathering by Hod Ben Zvi, Secretary General, UPF-Israel Friday, April 25, 2008 The Druze celebration in honor of the prophet Shu’eib on April 25, 2008 offered an opportunity to promote the interfaith vision of this year’s Global Peace Festival in Israel. Nebi [prophet] Shu'eib is identified with the biblical Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses. He is revered as the chief Druze prophets, and his tomb near Tiberias overlooking the Sea of Galilee is the site of an annual gathering of many of the approximately 120,000 Druze living in Israel. In planning the gathering, we held several consultations with Ambassador for Peace Sheik Ali Birani and other key Druze leaders: Sheik Taufik Salame, Mr. Yakub Salame, and Sheik Samih Natur. On April 25, about 10,000 people gathered in front of the main stage, and throughout the entire period about 30,000 people passed through the area to pay their respects. Our delegation from Jerusalem included the UPF Regional Chair Dr. Sang Jin Lee and UPF-Israel Chair Dr. Masatoshi Abe. Key Muslim and Christian leaders were present to honor the occasion. Upon arriving at Nebi Shu’eib’s tomb we offered our prayers and right after that met several of the Druze leaders. We were warmly welcomed by Sheik Taufik Salame, who prepared an extraordinary meal for us. Many of the senior sheiks gathered around us, and we had an inspiring discussion about the Global Peace Festival as a celebration of life promoting strong families, service to others, and interreligious harmony. We explored some of the similarities between the Druze tradition and what the UPF is trying to accomplish. I talked about the vision of spiritual leaders playing significant roles in promoting peace and good governance. At the podium, various political and religious speakers offered greetings. Dr. Masatoshi Abe offered greetings on behalf of Father and Mother Moon and a prayer of blessing for those assembled. Then the spiritual leader of the Druze, Sheik Moafak Tarif, gave the main holiday address, followed by greetings from the president of Israel, Mr. Shimon Peres. After the public gathering, we met with several Knesset members, one government minister, and Israel’s president introducing ourselves and the work of UPF. A grand feast featured delicious foods from the different villages from around the country. Each village and family sent homemade foods which were very unique and colorful. People shared happily with one another. We were able to meet many of the Druze sheiks who attended the International Leadership Conference in Tiberias in October 2007. They expressed their desire to continue the interaction and further explore spiritual and family values. We then went to Sheik Ali Birani’s home at Daliat El Carmel and spent time reflecting about the event. Throughout more than fifty years, the Reverend and Mrs. Sun Myung Moon have devoted themselves to the pursuit of peace, and they have established numerous organizations and foundations whose main focus has been world peace. These include the Professors World Peace Academy, the Women's Federation for World Peace, the Youth Federation for World Peace, the Inter-Religious Federation for World Peace, the World Media Association, the International Conference on the Unity of the Sciences, the Summit Council for World Peace, the Universal Peace Federation, and others. A Providential View of the Pacific Rim Era in Light of God's Will: The United States and the Future Direction of the United Nations and the World Rev. Dr. Sun Myung Moon, Founder, Universal Peace Federation New York, United States, September 23, 2007 Among the 6.5 billion people on the earth today, almost five billion are our neighbors, relatives, and brothers and sisters belonging to the Pacific Rim region. Many of us share the same roots in the sphere of the Mongolian peoples. There is nothing we cannot do if we receive the Marriage Blessing and pull together centering on God's ideal for peace! The future of humanity is in our hands. God's providence has now spread from the North American continent and has blossomed as an island civilization, the Japanese archipelago, which is in a position similar to that previously held by the United Kingdom. It is now about to fulfill its destiny by coming to fruition on the Korean peninsula, the homeland of the True Parents who have emerged on the earth as the Savior of humanity and the returning Messiah. The Korean peninsula, which stands in a similar position to that of Rome in Jesus' time, is regarded as an area of conflict between the sphere of the religions and the sphere of politics, which have the mission of resolving the world's problems. From a geo-political point of view, the Korean peninsula is still an arena of intense confrontation despite the ongoing work to secure world peace. The principles of restoration through indemnity dictate that civilization must bear fruit in the Pacific Rim region, centered on the Korean peninsula. Fortunately, during the Korean War, the UN forces, centering on the United States, were mobilized to protect the peninsula. Yet, they did not recover the homeland and hometown of God's desire as they should have according to God's will, and they left the job half done. As a result, global conflict and strife continued during "the Cold War." People were deprived of their possessions and displaced, leading them to search for God.
Bizarre.
Yeah, the cesspool aka the UN is antithetical to God, nice try mooner. These guys make it up as they go, to fit their power trip, end sovereignty and take the World's throne. I'm personally excited to believe that God's spirit might be on the move...it's about time for a revival if the planet is going to survive much longer, putting off what I believe is inevitable. I believe the Bible and do believe in spite of my massive imperfections, and the Revelator shares with us God's message for days like these...global governance (obvious as the elephant in the room I guess), demonic "King" - antiChrist, misery, death, destruction, etc. Doesn't mean I'm not supposed to fight the evil of our times nor in any way am I to conform to it...I obey lawfully constituted authority and disregard, circumnavigate and otherwise avoid the evil as much as I can...which is not necessarily simple...Hucklebee the "Christian" World Socialist sucked the moonies in to keep Ron Paul out, jmo
Looks like the Zionists are definitely part of the Moonie one world religion NWO bunch.
Let's not rush this along here, and let's not assume that modern day Israel has anything to do with it at all, when it does come.
What's that definition of insanity? Something about doing the same things over and over again, while expecting a different result each time? Obama supporters are insane. So are Klintons and McNuts supporters. That is a bullseye.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There are plenty of cultural motifs for them to evoke in westerners' minds.
False Messiahs of Today José Luis De Jesús Miranda Puerto Rican preacher José Luis De Jesús Miranda says a wondrous thing happened to him in 1976 when he was living in Massachusetts. He claims that two heavenly beings took him to a marble hall where an apparition merged with his body and began to speak inside of him. De Jesus believes that he and Jesus Christ became one and the same in that instant. He now has a following of 100,000 plus. Moon Moon is a South Korean citizen and the founder and leader of the Unification Church, a world-wide occult organization that believes Moon to be the "Messiah" sent by God to complete the earthly mission of Jesus. His followers number in the millions. Raelians An atheist religion led by Claude Vorilhon, who calls himself Rael - the last four letters of "Israel". The group claims a membership of at least 55,000 followers worldwide. "Raelians" believe that scientists from another planet created the human race, and that monotheism should be totally replaced by science. Maitreya He has been expected for generations by all of the world's major religions. A alot more at the link.
Any chance that one or more of these were lab experiments?
And when they combined them all together they ended up with gw bush.
Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans
#2. To: PSUSA (#1)
#3. To: christine (#0)
Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims.
#4. To: christine (#0)
#5. To: christine (#0)
#6. To: Peppa (#3)
Lord Acton
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
B-b-but all of Obama's supporters on here said he wasn't a communist. Now I feel like they may have been mislead (or something).
#8. To: christine (#0)
#9. To: christine (#0)
(Edited)
The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
#10. To: Dakmar (#8)
#11. To: PSUSA (#1)
#12. To: angle, all (#2)
"If you don't support Obaba, you're supporting the killing of innocents." - boot licker
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
I stayed up all night, sick over the thought of the Myanmar junta not allowing humanitarian aid into their country. Maybe we can divert it to New Orleans?
#15. To: ... (#13)
#16. To: Peppa (#14)
Generals to distribute as they saw fit
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
Jones has become incoherent of late. Once one knows the govt is rotten, minor details become less important, to me at least.
#19. To: PSUSA (#12)
Obama supporters are insane. So are Klintons and McNuts supporters.
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Generals to distribute as they saw fit I'm guessing population control. Nothing new under the sun.
#21. To: ... (#18)
#22. To: aristeides (#17)
Minor details like inaccurate quotations from Michelle Obama's senior thesis?
#23. To: aristeides (#9)
(whose 15 cosponsors include 4 Republicans, Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel)
#24. To: aristeides (#9)
All that it would require the executive branch to do is to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide , between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day, and to file a report on the strategy with Congress.
#25. To: aristeides (#9)
If it were so controversial, do you think Lugar would have signed on as a cosponsor?
#26. To: aristeides, all (#11)
Why don't you read the bill before you go off half-cocked?
#27. To: PSUSA (#26)
#28. To: christine (#23)
#29. To: PSUSA (#26)
#30. To: Dakmar (#25)
#31. To: PSUSA, christine, FOH, Peppa, Jethro Tull (#26)
You Hippies and give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again --Tool "Vicarious" It is the policy of the United States to promote the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people...
And what might those goals be?
This is Obama, unvarnished. If anyone thinks McCain or Clinton would not support these "goals," think again. The 8 Millennium development goals
Eradicate Extreme Poverty and Hunger [Massive redistribution of wealth and central (even corporate) planning, which is WHAT CAUSES POVERTY.] 
Achieve Universal Primary Education [Centrally-organized "one world government" Indoctrination]. 
Promote Gender Equality and Empower Women [Destroy all Natural Law, biologically-based notions of the Family]. 
Reduce Child Mortality [Except at Abortion Clinics]. 
Improve Maternal Health [Except at Abortion Clinics]. 
Combat HIV/AIDS, Malaria and other Diseases [Innoculate EVERYONE with the latest, untested vaccines]. 
Ensure Environmental Sustainability [Luddite, anti-growth, anti-HUMAN ideology with a massive dose of CENTRAL ENFORCEMENT at a GLOBAL LEVEL, which has always been the goal]. 
Develop a Global Partnership for Development [Development permitted only by the CENTRAL PLANNERS for their CENTRAL GOALS, subjugating HUMAN CREATIVITY AND INGENUITY for the COLLECTIVE].
#32. To: aristeides (#30)
From the United Nations Millennium Declaration:
#33. To: aristeides (#29)
The bill may well be a boondoggle, but the article here presents it as something much worse than that.
#34. To: PSUSA (#33)
That small arms treaty, while supposedly trying to stem violence in other developing countries, will be used to disarm us here.
#35. To: Dakmar (#32)
#36. To: aristeides (#35)
#37. To: buckeye (#36)
#38. To: buckeye (#34)
But they have to be completely dominated and emasculated before the global government machine can swing into unfettered action.
#39. To: aristeides (#37)
#40. To: aristeides (#37)
This article is about how scary Obama's bill allegedly is. I point out that it's not scary.
#41. To: buckeye (#31)
This is Obama, unvarnished. If anyone thinks McCain or Clinton would not support these "goals," think again. We HAVE NO CHOICE but to politically oppose every one of these candidates.
#42. To: Dakmar, aristeides (#40)
#43. To: Dakmar (#32)
To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, .....
#44. To: Dakmar (#40)
#45. To: aristeides (#44)
#46. To: aristeides (#44)
Is the title of the article about disarming Americans, or is it not?
#47. To: aristeides (#9)
If it were so controversial, do you think Lugar would have signed on as a cosponsor?
#48. To: aristeides (#28)
Your title says the bill is to "disarm Americans." I see nothing like that in the bill.
#49. To: Dakmar (#32)
#50. To: aristeides, Jethro Tull, christine (#28)
Your title says the bill is to "disarm Americans." I see nothing like that in the bill.
#51. To: HOUNDDAWG (#50)
#52. To: aristeides (#9)
(Edited)
S. 2433 (whose 15 cosponsors include 4 Republicans, Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel)
#53. To: aristeides (#9)
Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel
#54. To: Horse (#53)
Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel
#55. To: aristeides (#28)
And the fact that it has 4 Republican cosponsors confirms that there's nothing like that in it.
#56. To: PSUSA (#12)
Obama supporters are insane. So are Klintons and McNuts supporters.
#57. To: Peppa, Jethro Tull (#14)
Some of the food boxes distributed were given to various Generals to distribute as they saw fit, as there is an election or referendum going on.
#58. To: christine (#23)
(whose 15 cosponsors include 4 Republicans, Lugar, Smith, Snowe, and Hagel)
#59. To: orangedog (#55)
(Edited)
Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record.
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows.
#60. To: FOH, christine (#56)
You have to be ignorant or intellectually dishonest to support McHillObama, the CFR's Dream Team of bottom feeding puppets...no one on 4um can claim the former.
#61. To: aristeides (#59)
#62. To: buckeye (#31)
This is Obama, unvarnished. If anyone thinks McCain or Clinton would not support these "goals," think again.
#63. To: buckeye (#61)
Perhaps you can show me one gun control bill any of those four voted against.
#64. To: FOH (#62)
#65. To: buckeye (#61)
#66. To: buckeye, christine, JamesDeffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Peppa (#60)
We've seen it all. It's disgusting. The only relief I get is by looking at the TOSses to see just how much more deep into the chaos they have fallen than 4. Pro-McCain commentary is akin to our pro-Obama commentary.
#67. To: aristeides (#65)
Of course, if some other gun organization of which you approve has also rated Hagel, nothing is preventing you from giving the rest of us a link to such a rating.
#68. To: buckeye (#64)
They're just weak-minded. This is the result of the demoralization that Bezmenov talks about in the video I just posted. It's plain to see. These people live in kaleidescope world of self-made morals, artificial rules of physics, and twisted treatment of human language -- letting words mean whatever they want.
#69. To: FOH (#68)
#70. To: aristeides (#51)
Perhaps you can point to the anti-gun provision in Obama's bill. I don't see it.
#71. To: aristeides (#59)
Hagel scores A by NRA on pro-gun rights policies.
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows.
#72. To: buckeye (#69)
It's not strong minded to be a useful idiot.
#73. To: FOH (#66)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#74. To: Dakmar (#32)
supporting regional disarmament measures
#75. To: FOH (#71)
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#73)
#77. To: FOH (#76)
#78. To: buckeye (#75)
Senate Bill 1959?
#79. To: FOH (#78)
#80. To: buckeye (#77)
They reveal their inspirations with the filth they spew.
#81. To: buckeye (#79)
#82. To: FOH (#81)
#83. To: aristeides (#37)
This article is about how scary Obama's bill allegedly is. I point out that it's not scary. So you tell me it doesn't matter what Obama's bill says.
#84. To: FOH (#76)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#85. To: Ferret Mike (#84)
#86. To: buckeye (#82)
Most of these 4 leftists were supporting Ron Paul because they thought he would be friendly to same-sex marriage and illegal immigration.
#87. To: Ferret Mike (#84)
#88. To: buckeye (#82)
"Most of these 4 leftists were supporting Ron Paul because they thought he would be friendly to same-sex marriage and illegal immigration."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#89. To: FOH (#86)
#90. To: PSUSA (#38)
The "men" in this country have already, imo, been emasculated and dominated. There aren't that many real men out there. They can act against us at any time.
#91. To: FOH (#87)
"Keep up the good work."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#92. To: buckeye (#89)
(Edited)
This country is being destroyed by 68er intellectual vacuity.
#93. To: Ferret Mike (#91)
#94. To: Ferret Mike (#88)
... Paul is rather tough on immigration
#95. To: buckeye (#42)
Ari is too brain-damaged and addled to recognize that we're moving past another point of no return here.
#96. To: FOH (#92)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#97. To: FOH (#95)
#98. To: buckeye (#75)
Gun control is pretty much 95% effective now. Next it's word control. What will Chuck Hegel do with Senate Bill 1959?
#99. To: HOUNDDAWG (#98)
Keep in mind that the American people make up the largest standing army in the world.
#100. To: DeaconBenjamin (#47)
If it were so controversial, do you think Lugar would have signed on as a cosponsor?
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#96)
#102. To: FOH (#101)
#103. To: buckeye (#97)
He's out in the open in that regard. He's addled to think it's not transparent. But one has to be in a mentally weakened state to adopt and maintain Marxist ideologies, by definition.
#104. To: buckeye (#102)
You must have gotten one of his goats.
#105. To: HOUNDDAWG (#50)
#106. To: buckeye (#94)
"It's unclear. He's tougher than the top three candidates, but he steadfastly refused to admit that conservative politics, first having been infiltrated by Zionists, are now being completely undermined by the pro-immigration lobby."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#107. To: buckeye (#99)
#108. To: buckeye (#102)
"You must have gotten one of his goats."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#109. To: aristeides (#37)
I point out that it's not scary
#110. To: Ferret Mike (#106)
I have been hoping to see buyer's regret help the Republicans avoid the train wreck a McCain presidency would be to them.
#111. To: FOH (#57)
(Edited)
As is coming soon to Amerika, only the Police State class/UP will be assured of having their/families' needs met in the artificially-induced chaos and misery that's been charted for US...
#112. To: rowdee (#109)
bump
Obama on Supreme Court Judges - TheFiringLine Forums
www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2847211 - 42k -
#113. To: HOUNDDAWG (#107)
Why don't you try offering some intelligent points that we can discuss?
#114. To: Peppa (#111)
There have been articles describing the preparations for such.
#115. To: FOH (#100)
are you aware of Lugar's L.O.S.T. ?
#116. To: HOUNDDAWG (#70)
#117. To: HOUNDDAWG, Peppa (#116)
#118. To: DeaconBenjamin (#115)
are you aware of Lugar's L.O.S.T. ?
lugar.senate.gov/sfrc/sea.html - 23k -
#119. To: buckeye (#82)
#120. To: buckeye (#99)
The dream is carefully maintained by gatekeeper organizations like the NRA.
#121. To: buckeye (#110)
"You're a leftist tool, just like the Falwell caricatures you snub on the right."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#122. To: Peppa, FOH (#119)
#123. To: Ferret Mike (#121)
#124. To: FOH (#114)
"The long revolution's end is in sight for them...lots of US see it too."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#125. To: buckeye (#122)
I'm simply astounded that on 4, where criticism of Israel is rife, the very same people would turn around and adopt Jewish-championed ideologies like Marxism, feminism, anti-tradition/religion, and environmentalism.
#126. To: Ferret Mike (#124)
#127. To: FOH (#125)
World Government loving MultiCulti political correctors...
#128. To: FOH (#125)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#129. To: buckeye (#113)
....and the patriot movement was a hollowed out FBI operation.
#130. To: Ferret Mike (#128)
#131. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)
#132. To: Ferret Mike (#124)
Stop thinking of Chuckie the Cheese Baldwhine's hairy little ass, gay licker.
#133. To: FOH (#126)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#134. To: Ferret Mike (#133)
#135. To: FOH (#134)
#136. To: HOUNDDAWG (#132)
"Mikey ol' buddy, I think you've made your point and a little bit of that goes a loooong way.
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#137. To: buckeye (#36)
#138. To: buckeye (#135)
He's letting his freak flag fly. You know, the 68ers fought for and won so much for us... NOT.
#139. To: buckeye (#135)
"He's letting his freak flag fly."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#140. To: buckeye (#122)
I'm simply astounded that on 4, where criticism of Israel is rife, the very same people would turn around and adopt Jewish-championed ideologies like Marxism, feminism, anti-tradition/religion, and environmentalism.
#141. To: FOH (#138)
#142. To: FOH (#138)
"I have a room full of family and friends over and I'm shooting my monitor picture up on the digital projector for everyone to see."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#143. To: Peppa (#140)
Well, afaic, they are under control of the darkside through it's many faces.
#144. To: buckeye (#131)
I'm thinking history is already on my side of this argument, but I hope you're right. Remember, a huge proportion of those gun toting patriots watch TV. It will tell them what to do if the balloon goes up. And most will believe it.
#145. To: Ferret Mike (#136)
I am not a fucking communist ~ Corn Flake L-I-A-R
#146. To: buckeye (#141)
In 1968 you could fill up your tank in a car with 400 HP engine, and drive across the USA for about a $100. And now they ridicule you because you want to drive an SUV. That's freedom? These people welcome the chains being put on us.
#147. To: FOH (#145)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#148. To: HOUNDDAWG, FOH (#144)
Most of them will be absolutely worthless when the time comes, and they'll probably be preoccupied with abolishing the 22nd amendment so they can bring Bush back....
#149. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#150. To: FOH (#146)
"These people are the tools of the enemy."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#151. To: FOH (#149)
"...but it's time to serve lunch here."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#152. To: buckeye (#143)
Nation-destroying ideologies...
#153. To: Ferret Mike, FOH (#136)
You mean my point that his constantly calling me a communist and Marx lover to harrass and belittle anything I have to say?
#154. To: Peppa (#152)
These folks will not have an OJ jury in the end.
#155. To: buckeye (#154)
But the streets of Russia ran red with the blood of their enemies. The oppression here is just beginning. We have only seen a faint glimmering of what they have in mind for us. The HR 1955 style legislation is child's play compared to what they believe is necessary to protect them.
#156. To: Peppa (#155)
(Edited)
#157. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)
"Let him have the last word and then lead by example and ignore him forever."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#158. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)
I don't see any point in answering the repeated insults from FOH because I don't care if he sees my point of view. He seems undeterred by reason and he enjoys your obviously distressed replies.
#159. To: Ferret Mike (#157)
#160. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#137)
Gotta keep the Hegelian dialectic active ya know LOL.
#161. To: buckeye (#160)
Maybe someone besides you and I will figure it out...
#162. To: FOH (#161)
#163. To: buckeye (#162)
#164. To: FOH (#163)
#165. To: buckeye (#164)
Symbiotic? I would call it parasitic. The host is dying.
#166. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#167. To: Ferret Mike, HOUNDDAWG (#166)
#168. To: Ferret Mike (#166)
#169. To: FOH (#168)
#170. To: Morgana le Fay (#169)
goof.
#171. To: FOH (#170)
#172. To: buckeye (#160)
#173. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#172)
It's time we realize it is Americans for America and run these elitist pukes into the sea and tell them to swim for Europe or some other place.
#174. To: bush_is_a_moonie, FOH (#172)
I'm beginning to think allowing the Zionists to create the state of Israel was the biggest mistake in the past 100 years.
#175. To: buckeye (#174)
Israel has absolutely nothing to do with our future, our liberty, our prosperity.
#176. To: All (#175)
#177. To: FOH, scrapper2 (#175)
#178. To: buckeye (#177)
Israel controls Washington DC, much more than Saudi Arabia, China, or the "former" Soviet union. The RIIA, the CFR, and the Bilderberg group are Zionist and globalist. They fit together like a cold hand in a steel glove.
#179. To: FOH (#178)
(Edited)
#180. To: buckeye (#177)
#181. To: buckeye (#179)
Creating the state of Israel was immediately on their agenda, from what I understand. The JBS feels a certain pressure not to discuss this aspect of the RIIA and CFR. But the CFR created the UN, and one of the first orders of business of the UN was to implement the Zionist aspect of the Balfour agreement.
#182. To: bush_is_a_moonie, FOH (#180)
But the hands of one of the gentleman were laid on K.'s throat, while the other pushed the knife deep into his heart and twisted it there, twice. As his eyesight failed, K. saw the two gentlemen cheek by cheek, close in front of his face, watching the result. "Like a dog!" he said, it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.
This is America today.
#183. To: christine (#0)
Obama Backs U.N. Bill to Disarm Americans
#184. To: buckeye (#67)
I could care less about these ratings.
#185. To: aristeides (#184)
#186. To: buckeye (#174)
(Edited)
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#187. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#186)
#188. To: buckeye, bush_is_a_moonie (#187)
A Providential View of the Pacific Rim Era in Light of God's Will: The United States and the Future Direction of the United Nations and the World
#189. To: buckeye (#187)
#190. To: FOH (#188)
I'm personally excited to believe that God's spirit might be on the move...it's about time for a revival if the planet is going to survive much longer, putting off what I believe is inevitable.
#191. To: PSUSA (#12)
For some reason, people believe him when he talks about "change". Every other candidate from time immemorial has promised change. No one ever delivered, except changes for the worst.
Lord Acton
#192. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#189)
Looks like the Zionists are definitely part of the Moonie one world religion NWO bunch.
#193. To: buckeye (#187)
#194. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#193)
#195. To: buckeye (#194)
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