Title: OK, so a new forum opens and I posted these two articles without comment, and immediately got banned. WTF? Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:May 10, 2008 Author:me Post Date:2008-05-10 13:46:57 by Jethro Tull Keywords:None Views:2158 Comments:203
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised. I feel slighted, no email, no nothing.
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
Perhaps you have read this before...I have stated here many times that my Grandparents were born BEFORE the Civil War. They knew a lot of the men that participated in Americas loss and were related to Rutherford B. Hayes. How I wish now I had the opportunity to question them, to learn, not what schools teach, rather first hand knowledge.
I think that is what Obummer said????? We white trash be bitter that the good life has passed us by????
Yes. And get used to it. Your POV is warped. Sorry, but you're not invited to the New America. Just jiggle the 'change' in your pocket, and make it last./s
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
Ah I see. And here I thought it was my positions on AGW as being part of the implementation of the NWO and my lack of enthusiasm for voting for CFR choices.
Thought for the day: Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
Here's the thing - Obama uses the Saul Alinsky Ju-Jitsu for his arguments. It is very much akin to Church Recruiting.
That kind of argument produces a visceral reaction in people who don't blame others for their unhappiness OR who have had horrible experiences with religious twits.
For me, that's part of my loathing of Obama. The man's method of laying it out tickles me the wrong way.
robin, on the other hand, bought into it completely.
Obama learned this as a community organizer. Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" is required reading and is the standard handbook for a lot of Democrat candidates.
For people who believe in self-sufficiency, the thought of "Blame someone else then go git 'em!" is anathema.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
Why am I not surprised? She gave herself away LONG ago. Perhaps now the mood, conversation and communication will be more civil??? I sure hope so, as there are those who participate here who have a lot to offer.
Stand tall, Christine ... we be getting rid of some of the trash on 4um as the People's Forum gathers it up.
And she used christine's dime and PM system to plan and execute her strategy.
She didn't do that with me. She contacted me out of the blue through my regular email account - which she has had for five years or so. And I don't think she's been on since she said "bye". But the logs should show this in less than a minute. So there is no need to make accusations that she's skulking about on the PM. The logs will show when she came on and what she did while she was here.
And she used christine's dime and PM system to plan and execute her strategy. This is a person of high moral standing? Typical of the left.
Well, I'm trying to figure out what is going on -- with multiple issues.
robin bought into the Alinsky Ju-Jitsu entirely. That much I've figured out. She accepted the "You have a problem/you are miserable. I am the only solution" stuff.
On the other hand, that kind of rhetoric completely repels me which explains why I react so violently to most leftist thought. Since they tend to use the same tactics and operate from the same playbook, it repels me entirely. Nobody tells me that I'm miserable and nobody tells me I have a problem and that they are the only solution to it.
Thus, I never get "organized".
Obama learned this as a community organizer. His campaign is based on simply expanding the methods nationally as opposed to working locally.
It may also explain his negatives; a lot of people don't like Church Recruiting methods which operate along similar lines where you "create a need" for the Church with someone and then fill the need.
Quite simply, if most forms of advertising and marketing don't work on you, you won't be attracted to Obama's campaign. In fact, you're likely to be repelled from it.
That's where I'm at with the analysis so far. Next up is to get a copy of _Rules for Radicals_ and compare what it has to say with what I'm seeing.
I'm willing to bet that is precisely what irks me about the Ferret. He uses many of the same strategies and ends up repelling me from his arguments as a result.
One of Alinsky's methods is something I use at times and is something Obama uses constantly. That method is to inform people they don't live up to their own standards. Then you sell them yourself or your organization as a solution.
I don't sell myself as a solution so I don't quite go that far, but I've got no problems in saying "If you don't like regime change in Iraq, then how can you advocate for it anywhere else, like Rhodesia or South Africa?"
Obama also uses rapid-fire Socratic debate to initiate this as a one-way dialog with people to bring them over. Church recruiters do similar things and over time I've trained myself to respond to missionaries not with answers but with questions if they don't take "No thank you, go away" for an answer.
The way to deal with someone involved in firing off a Socratic Debate with you is to respond in kind. Typically, they aren't prepared for it and aren't expecting it. Thus, you end up using their own tactics against them to a win.
Its very slick, but the Alinsky tactics do not work on all people, especially if their target has been exposed to recruiting methods of religious groups that try to suck them in and have fended them off.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Not only do people like Obama because he manipulates them with dark psychology, but Obama also has an atomic mind control ray. It emits from the television during cat food commercials and ensnares anyone who stares on the cat on screen. Notice how more and more commercials have black cats in them?
Well I won't be visiting. My small government views would not be deemed appropriate there.
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised.
I'm shocked!
I wasn't invited either.
I am deeply wounded.
I wonder if could be that I am not a big fan of Goobermunt Hellthcare? ;-)
The name kind of gives it a certain panache: "The People's Forum".
Kind of like: "The People's Republic".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Next up is to get a copy of _Rules for Radicals_ and compare what it has to say with what I'm seeing.
mirage,
This didn't just come on all of a sudden as it might appear IMO.
One thing perhaps as an observation, is that comparing the 'debate' or lack thereof, to Obama's style of discussion, stands out. He never quite answers a direct question. This tactic was conveniently used through and buffered by the use of the bozo feature.. where answering a question or addressing issues, could be ignored, through the ease of just not 'seeing' it. As though ignoring it made it disappear.
As such, the discussion began with the same 'stump speech' every day. A cultish oddity, like door knockers.
Already robin is banning people as being disruptive.
Wherever you have people with strong opinions you are going to have conflicts, and not everyone was schooled by Amy Vanderbuilt and the Marquis des Queensbury would cause them to go: "Say what?"
Robin, Gentle Robin, is going to find out quickly that "Wilbur Milquetoast" does not have the nerve to post on a forum and that people with strong opinions will strongly defend them.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
As such, the discussion began with the same 'stump speech' every day. A cultish oddity, like door knockers.
Hmm? Reminds me of "Young Frankenstein".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken