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Title: OK, so a new forum opens and I posted these two articles without comment, and immediately got banned. WTF?
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Published: May 10, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-10 13:46:57 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 2436
Comments: 203
HERE Thank you christine for allowing all POV to be discussed openly and freely. The 1st amendment is alive and well on 4um.
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#142. To: Jethro Tull (#139)
A singer with but one song to sing has a short life.
Curious, isn't it? A schoolyard prank perhaps.
That's okay, dots. Cyni is entitled to his opinion of me and I respect that. At this point I think that's the most constructive position I can take. Thank you.
Yes, I gathered that.
A cop who despises the rule of law. What is wrong with this picture?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You're saying that Neil is dishonest and untrustworthy because he expressed a political opinion that you disagree with. Why don't you post a list of the political opinions that you will allow us to hold?
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At this point I think that's the most constructive position I can take. Thank you. He has me on bozo anyway - so it doesn't matter.
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JT, I'm fully confident that you honestly believe what you say. For my part, however, I'm confident that you despise Obama so very much to the point where you have fooled yourself into looking for excuses to discourage pro-Obama postings, viewing such excuses as actual reasons. It's the same as you believing that I want to do away with the 2nd Amendment. That's a complete fabrication and there's no truth to it at all. Yet you believe it. Completely. You see what you want to see. You wanted to see the bozo filter as a problem, and it was one. But only in your mind. I don't doubt your sincerity though. Case in point. You see what you want to see, not what is real. I've qualified my meaning to you a half dozen or more times already, but to no effect.
I just spoke to Robin about this. She says she specifically did not invite you. No PM. No email. No nothing. And it makes sense given that you were instantly banned when you went over. So I am sure you have a dodge to cover your deliberately misleading statement here, e.g., "When I said Robin invited me, what I really meant was ..... blah, blah, blah". So let the tap dance begin. Morph your story for us.
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JT, I'm fully confident that you honestly believe what you say. Likewise, you For my part, however, I'm confident that you despise Obama so very much to the point where you have fooled yourself into looking for excuses to discourage pro-Obama postings, viewing such excuses as actual reasons. My goodness, have you seen the material I have researched regarding Obama? MSM articles. The man is a big government, anti-gun socialist. Yes, I despise him and his politics. Toss in the cultists who fawn over him b/c of his color. If he were white, he'd be gone long ago (Geraldine Ferraro) It's the same as you believing that I want to do away with the 2nd Amendment. That's a complete fabrication and there's no truth to it at all. Yet you believe it. Completely. Lots here read your comment the same way. Please clarify your position once and for all. You see what you want to see. You wanted to see the bozo filter as a problem, and it was one. But only in your mind. I just pinged you to an example where I consider the bozo was used to discourage a poster from participation. Further, evidence is offered as to the actual number of bozo's the poster has. The poster stated he KNEW the correct number. Please tell me how people KNOW the number of bozo's another poster has?
Just like you KNOW the number of bozo's -MUD- has, eh?
Did it ever occur to you that you're a drag on 4um ? Go worship your Marxist Establishment tool on robin's site maybe ? You have very little respect left with Americans that don't slobber over racist Marxist gun grabbers, best to save that in a thimble somewhere no ?
NOOOO you dint !!! He said he had three. More than three confirmed to me that they had him on bozo. That's all I needed to know to call him a liar. Get over it. People bozo's you because you acted like an asshole. Accept it and move on. The site changed the entire system just for you and you are still sulking like a child.
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You're probably THE most intellectually dishonest poster 4um has...and THAT is saying a MOUTH full...surprised you bother hanging around here since the People's Place opened up. Your kind hasn't changed their basic M.O. for a long time...
You say that, and you're puzzled that a forum would not want you? What a setup job by a bunch of America haters...
I knew it, you're a bitter-clinger too...=) heheheh
That's not what we're talking about JT. We're not talking about how good or bad Obama is. Read my statement again please. This is another example of you not seeing/reading objectively. I have. And you are not the only one seeing crooked. If you were, things would not have reached the point they have here on 4um. And now, elsewhere. I may not be seeing straight either, for all I know. Anyone who claims to be certain of having a mind free of bias is a liar, really. What's that biblical quote about trying to remove a splinter from another person's eye when you have a plank in your own? But as far as my position goes, you definitely don't understand it. And I have explained it. Many times.
Progressives/Socialists/Communists are miserable creatures. My theory is because they have to lock up their conscience in order to buy into the horrendous things they endorse, which goes against all that is freedom and liberty and good...has to suck to be one of them.
To me, an intellectually dishonest poster is one who tosses out a vicious smear, as you just did above, without a shred of proof, as you just did above.
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It never is, you clowns will never face the truth, never own up to reality and have to change the subject with long flowery piles of BULL SHIT...you keep falling like a rock for all to see. Your demise was VERY unpredictable...
Btw, you condescending rag doll...you really are not as bright as you believe yourself to be. I have examples, but I'll refrain for the time being. This is too rich...
And some misuse it under multiple accounts, I suspect.
That's a dark and ultimately very personally lonely place to be...lost in the wilderness.
Besides me peeking into the DB, only each member can know how many have bozo'd them. Someone had me on bozo recently but I don't know who it was. I didn't care enough to find out, and it's none of my business anyway. It was you that posted the survey thread asking everyone how many had them on bozo. I don't think anyone suspected then that you were starting a campaign to do away with the filter.
good lord.....and good luck.
You do realize that as long as your sorry ass is webmaster of 4um, ultimately no one is going to trust their privacy on this site. You blew your credibility and all trust so that now the 4um is corrupt from the back office-out...unless of course one is an ObamaCON.
I assume you don't peek into anything, so lets take that off the table. Thiple dots claims to KNOWS the number of bozo's -MUD- has. Huh? He has to be wrong, right?
And some misuse it under multiple accounts, I suspect. As I have repeatedly told you, I had nothing to do with your bozo problems. And Neil can confirm this for you. Find another scape goat or accept responsibility for your actions.
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good lord.....and good luck. If that's all you have to say, I rest my case.
This is a simple case of he said/they say. Choose who you believe and move on. Probably safest to take both claims with a grain of salt and move on. The count doesn't matter anyway.
QUOTE 90. To: Neil McIver (#85) ---[snip]--- When did you re-write that mission statement to serve your purpose of the Libertarian point of view??? Did you run that one by me? No. How about John, Carter, Bob or Scott? No? Well 2 of them are Jewish and might have something to say about it as well. You may think you are the only person who owns this site, or manages it. You do have control of the software, because you were asked to write it AFTER it's mission was determined by others. But there are more people involved in this, and I intend to take this discussion to them for final resolution. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:03:32 ET Reply Trace QUOTE 98. To: Neil McIver (#93) John will contact us tomorrow for a conference call. Be available 11:45-12:30 to discuss this. Even tho John has been silent, he is very much involved and interested in the future of this endeavor. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:58:34 ET Reply Trace QUOTE 99. To: Arator (#96) ---[snip]--- I have notified our other main Partner, John, who will try to set this straight. His is the final word. There are more people involved in this than just me and Neil. There are at least 3 to 5 others who have a say, and who have to approve my resignation. ---[snip]--- Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 19:07:27 ET Reply Trace Knowing that psillysally the Israel firster was in a similar predicament with comrade Ping, how did she extricate herself and LP out from under this clod's presence ? Get a server and pay someone else ? Is she able to manage the software herself ?
Still just three...heck, I've been behaving myself...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I have three too Mud. I picked up a forth for a while recently, but they have taken me back off.
---[snip]--- When did you re-write that mission statement to serve your purpose of the Libertarian point of view??? Did you run that one by me? No. How about John, Carter, Bob or Scott? No? Well 2 of them are Jewish and might have something to say about it as well. You may think you are the only person who owns this site, or manages it. You do have control of the software, because you were asked to write it AFTER it's mission was determined by others. But there are more people involved in this, and I intend to take this discussion to them for final resolution. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:03:32 ET Reply Trace You are not a trustworthy webmaster, Neil...
for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
Why ? He's not been trustworthy and dissed others before, as duly noted. His recent actions and comments also suggest that he's gone round the bend. If you ever want out of his clutches, there are people here interested in helping...
Puzzled I was invited. I just spoke to Robin about this. She says she specifically did not invite you. No PM. No email. No nothing. And it makes sense given that you were instantly banned when you went over. Tull is also denying now that he was approving the idea of assassinating Obama. Typical.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That's right Mr. Neil. And you should consider it an honor to be under seige by the resident plaid-shirted, flat-topped Jouster For Jesus who can't distinguish you from his traditional adversaries, the local Bolshevik windmills. BTW, Do you believe in reincarnation? He's Baaaaack!
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#143. To: Cynicom (#142)
#144. To: farmfriend (#131)
Which makes me wonder why he was invited in the first place.
#145. To: ..., Cynicom (#128)
#146. To: Jethro Tull (#130)
I posted two articles and was banned BEFORE comment.
#147. To: Jethro Tull (#139)
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Her turn to the political left, left her uncomfortable with all but fellow travelers, most of whom are D members and lawyers.
#148. To: angle (#129)
Neil showed his mind on the thread where he went off the deep end for Obama and hasn't been quite right since.
#149. To: Pinguinite (#145)
hat's okay, dots. Cyni is entitled to his opinion of me and I respect that.
#150. To: Jethro Tull (#132)
But you thought it would be a great idea to get rid of the bozo feature -- to change the rules -- because you didn't like what was getting posted here.
That's complete BS and you know it.
I love the clash of ideas, even your obscene cry for the abolishment of out 2nd. Please do offer that gem again sometime in the near future. It's always a laugh reading the wisdom of an ex pat.
#151. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
Puzzled I was invited.
#152. To: Pinguinite (#150)
#153. To: ... (#151)
#154. To: Pinguinite (#126)
You may well disagree, which is fine, but it's no secret that a number of people besides robin and me see something wrong with JT.
#155. To: Pinguinite (#126)
Only bleeding hearts would be crying "victim" over something like this.
#156. To: Jethro Tull (#153)
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Just like you KNOW the number of bozo's -MUD- has, eh?
#157. To: aristeides (#133)
If you don't want to be banned from forums, maybe it's not a good idea to issue what amounts to an assassination threat.
#158. To: aristeides (#135)
If every socialist on the planet failed to wake up tomorrow, it would be a glorious day. I'm sure you agree. Of course that would mean PC (Peoples Collective) would be sans posters.
#159. To: christine (#137)
that's a stretch characterizing that "wish" or "fantasy" as an assassination threat. have you never had the thought that this world would be a lot better off without the likes of bush/cheney/neocons/et al as an example? there's been lots of times that i've wished for the demise of what i consider to be evil and dangerous people.
#160. To: Jethro Tull (#152)
For my part, however, I'm confident that you despise Obama so very much to the point where you have fooled yourself into looking for excuses to discourage pro-Obama postings, viewing such excuses as actual reasons.
My goodness, have you seen the material I have researched regarding Obama?
Lots here read your comment the same way. Please clarify your position once and for all.
#161. To: angle (#138)
Must have been a set up...
#162. To: FOH (#157)
ou're probably THE most intellectually dishonest poster 4um has..
#163. To: Pinguinite (#160)
That's not what we're talking about JT. We're not talking about how good or bad Obama is.
#164. To: Pinguinite (#160)
This is another example of you not seeing/reading objectively.
#165. To: ... (#156)
Get over it. People bozo's you because you acted like an asshole.
#166. To: Jethro Tull (#139)
Her turn to the political left, left her uncomfortable with all but fellow travelers, most of whom are D members and lawyers.
#167. To: Jethro Tull (#152)
Further, evidence is offered as to the actual number of bozo's the poster has. The poster stated he KNEW the correct number. Please tell me how people KNOW the number of bozo's another poster has?
#168. To: Pinguinite (#160)
That's not what we're talking about JT. We're not talking about how good or bad Obama is. Read my statement again please. This is another example of you not seeing/reading objectively.
#169. To: Pinguinite (#167)
Besides me peeking into the DB
#170. To: Pinguinite (#167)
#171. To: Jethro Tull (#165)
Get over it. People bozo's you because you acted like an asshole.
#172. To: Jethro Tull (#168)
#173. To: Jethro Tull (#170)
He has to be wrong, right?
#174. To: Jethro Tull (#168)
The following hissy-fit by Goldi-Lox is found here: LP Notice: Israeli/Palistinian Conflict Section:
#175. To: Jethro Tull, ... (#153)
"Just like you KNOW the number of bozo's -MUD- has, eh?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#176. To: Mudboy Slim (#175)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#177. To: Neil McIver (#174)
90. To: Neil McIver (#85)
#178. To: Pinguinite, ALL (#167)
#179. To: christine (#178)
for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
#180. To: ..., Jethro Tull (#151)
#181. To: christine, Pinguinite (#178)
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for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
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