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Title: OK, so a new forum opens and I posted these two articles without comment, and immediately got banned. WTF?
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Published: May 10, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-10 13:46:57 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 2472
Comments: 203
HERE Thank you christine for allowing all POV to be discussed openly and freely. The 1st amendment is alive and well on 4um.
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#164. To: Pinguinite (#160)
Btw, you condescending rag doll...you really are not as bright as you believe yourself to be. I have examples, but I'll refrain for the time being. This is too rich...
And some misuse it under multiple accounts, I suspect.
That's a dark and ultimately very personally lonely place to be...lost in the wilderness.
Besides me peeking into the DB, only each member can know how many have bozo'd them. Someone had me on bozo recently but I don't know who it was. I didn't care enough to find out, and it's none of my business anyway. It was you that posted the survey thread asking everyone how many had them on bozo. I don't think anyone suspected then that you were starting a campaign to do away with the filter.
good lord.....and good luck.
You do realize that as long as your sorry ass is webmaster of 4um, ultimately no one is going to trust their privacy on this site. You blew your credibility and all trust so that now the 4um is corrupt from the back office-out...unless of course one is an ObamaCON.
I assume you don't peek into anything, so lets take that off the table. Thiple dots claims to KNOWS the number of bozo's -MUD- has. Huh? He has to be wrong, right?
And some misuse it under multiple accounts, I suspect. As I have repeatedly told you, I had nothing to do with your bozo problems. And Neil can confirm this for you. Find another scape goat or accept responsibility for your actions.
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good lord.....and good luck. If that's all you have to say, I rest my case.
This is a simple case of he said/they say. Choose who you believe and move on. Probably safest to take both claims with a grain of salt and move on. The count doesn't matter anyway.
QUOTE 90. To: Neil McIver (#85) ---[snip]--- When did you re-write that mission statement to serve your purpose of the Libertarian point of view??? Did you run that one by me? No. How about John, Carter, Bob or Scott? No? Well 2 of them are Jewish and might have something to say about it as well. You may think you are the only person who owns this site, or manages it. You do have control of the software, because you were asked to write it AFTER it's mission was determined by others. But there are more people involved in this, and I intend to take this discussion to them for final resolution. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:03:32 ET Reply Trace QUOTE 98. To: Neil McIver (#93) John will contact us tomorrow for a conference call. Be available 11:45-12:30 to discuss this. Even tho John has been silent, he is very much involved and interested in the future of this endeavor. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:58:34 ET Reply Trace QUOTE 99. To: Arator (#96) ---[snip]--- I have notified our other main Partner, John, who will try to set this straight. His is the final word. There are more people involved in this than just me and Neil. There are at least 3 to 5 others who have a say, and who have to approve my resignation. ---[snip]--- Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 19:07:27 ET Reply Trace Knowing that psillysally the Israel firster was in a similar predicament with comrade Ping, how did she extricate herself and LP out from under this clod's presence ? Get a server and pay someone else ? Is she able to manage the software herself ?
Still just three...heck, I've been behaving myself...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I have three too Mud. I picked up a forth for a while recently, but they have taken me back off.
---[snip]--- When did you re-write that mission statement to serve your purpose of the Libertarian point of view??? Did you run that one by me? No. How about John, Carter, Bob or Scott? No? Well 2 of them are Jewish and might have something to say about it as well. You may think you are the only person who owns this site, or manages it. You do have control of the software, because you were asked to write it AFTER it's mission was determined by others. But there are more people involved in this, and I intend to take this discussion to them for final resolution. Goldi-Lox posted on 2002-08-25 18:03:32 ET Reply Trace You are not a trustworthy webmaster, Neil...
for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
Why ? He's not been trustworthy and dissed others before, as duly noted. His recent actions and comments also suggest that he's gone round the bend. If you ever want out of his clutches, there are people here interested in helping...
Puzzled I was invited. I just spoke to Robin about this. She says she specifically did not invite you. No PM. No email. No nothing. And it makes sense given that you were instantly banned when you went over. Tull is also denying now that he was approving the idea of assassinating Obama. Typical.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That's right Mr. Neil. And you should consider it an honor to be under seige by the resident plaid-shirted, flat-topped Jouster For Jesus who can't distinguish you from his traditional adversaries, the local Bolshevik windmills. BTW, Do you believe in reincarnation? He's Baaaaack!
Both claims?
Thank you, chrissy. I think that question is pretty much just a byproduct of the grand general mess that things are in right now. That would be the same mess that most forums are in this election season.
How? By holding a different political view than you? Thank you for sharing this.
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Not sure who owns it. I got a PM, so I went over and saw some familiar names. Obviously all POV aren't welcome. Jethro Tull posted on 2008-05-10 14:01:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit Who said Robin invited me, counselor? Reading comprehension problem??
Yes, both. In case you didn't know, one person is claiming one number and another person is claiming a different number. That would be *2*, so yes, "both claims" is the correct syntax. My amazement at the communication difficulties here continues unabated....
That's the impression I got from you by your post #136 on this thread. I was a bit surprised to understand that Robin invited you. It makes a lot more sense that she wouldn't, and makes it no mystery that she banned you.
Why don't you explain the meaning of this? http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=1&Disp=127#C127 TPF ADMIN ALERTS See other TPF ADMIN ALERTS Articles Title: You're Invited! Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.the-peoples-forum.com Published: , Author: Post Date: 2008-05-08 22:47:46 by Robin Keywords: None Views: 721 Comments: 127 This appears to be an open invitation to all to join. It would be damned rude to extend such an open invitation to all (since the post is addressed to no one in particular) then to tell someone after they sign up that it didn't apply to her or him. So, may I assume that because robin has gnashed her teeth and refused to answer some of my questions in the past that despite the invitation I should expect the same treatment?
This medium leaves lots to be desired afa impressions. I think we can agree with that.
You can probably assume anything you want.
JT's a rotten person because a secret majority (including you and robin) agree on this. Okay, I got it now. Isn't it funny how people who are ill-equipped to host or grow a political discussion forum (and who've also been booted by petty tyrants themselves) would use the same self serving cheap shots (Nobody likes JT! trust me 'cause I speak for them! We had a meeting behind his back and it was unanimous....) are now attempting to create their own alternate political reality where "fairie tales can come true, it can happen to you"? I don't wish robin any misfortune but, she shouldn't be surprised if otherwise decent folk who may even agree with her politics don't take to heavy handed moderating because they've been victimized by that themselves and they feel that it's never justified against posters who simply state views outside the approved dogma. As some clever members here have said, perhaps she wants an echo chamber instead of an exchange of ideas. After all, she left here for the wrong reasons and that will always be a matter of record. I for one hope she softens her anger and returns or feels welcome to post if so moved, and I'll miss her. Despite the points on which we cannot agree I think she's a sweet, sensitive lady and I can't help but feel a genuine fondness for her.
Looks like a nonlawyer is using the kind of quibble here that lawyers get a bad name for using, JBT.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Your character shines through in every post.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Not a personal invite from the forum owner, I see. Kind of like a Ron Paul supporter crashing an republican open house.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
You can probably assume anything you want. Now, you see, you're getting surly with me because you dislike my pointed but civil questions. It should come as no surprise that JT sensed that from you and not from me in the past, and that's why he and I can have spirited discussions without going for the throat. Perhaps you should take responsibility for the replies you received instead of painting others as "bad people" because your feelings were hurt.
Thank you.
I'm not going for the throat. I'm going for the door. You truly can assume anything you want about robin. Everyone can. And everyone can assume what they want about JT. These assumptions can be based in fact, or they can be based on mere fantasies. Both are just as valid in the mind of the beholder. JT and I cannot communicate. That's been demonstrated for the last month or two. There's no point our continuing to try. And by "going for the door", I just mean I don't want to waste my time trying to talk to people who won't understand me.
Strange
when the same people engaging in this behavior claim the two-party system is
phony and it makes no difference. Yes, it's hard for me to
believe that those who are so passionate about running down Obama are not
hoping for Cain to win. If they are the same, then why expel all the negative
energy? I've asked that several times. It will be one of the two.
****** Neil. Your comment above is from PC
(Peoples Collective). It's absurd for many reasons, but the biggest reason is
that I won't be voting in this selection, period. You know this - or should -
because I‘ve held this belief for years now. Using your logic, since I
attacked Bush more than Kerry in ‘04, yet didn’t vote, would that have made me
a Kerry supporter? And about this "negative energy" (your words) I launch
toward Obama, well that’s b/c he's the winner of this years ugly baby contest.
He's a socialist, gun grabber, with questionable ties to radical black
nationalists and white miscreants. So lets have at it. Please
pick any topic, foreign or domestic, and I’ll make my case against Obama. I'll
be delighted to show you why Obama isn't worthy to shine our collective shoes.
No deal. I stand by these words: It's been proven again on this very thread on this very morning. Another year, perhaps.
Sniff, sniff.....
Someone else is bound to pick up the offer. I am looking forward to hearing it.
Is there enough money in it to make it worth while????
Really now, offering money is an insult. It's about the greater good, and I would expect them to refuse such a crass offer. Can't even get takers on sure thing bets. So, I look to the truly inspired, to offer the same.
This is another example of you not seeing/reading objectively.
#165. To: ... (#156)
Get over it. People bozo's you because you acted like an asshole.
#166. To: Jethro Tull (#139)
Her turn to the political left, left her uncomfortable with all but fellow travelers, most of whom are D members and lawyers.
#167. To: Jethro Tull (#152)
Further, evidence is offered as to the actual number of bozo's the poster has. The poster stated he KNEW the correct number. Please tell me how people KNOW the number of bozo's another poster has?
#168. To: Pinguinite (#160)
That's not what we're talking about JT. We're not talking about how good or bad Obama is. Read my statement again please. This is another example of you not seeing/reading objectively.
#169. To: Pinguinite (#167)
Besides me peeking into the DB
#170. To: Pinguinite (#167)
#171. To: Jethro Tull (#165)
Get over it. People bozo's you because you acted like an asshole.
#172. To: Jethro Tull (#168)
#173. To: Jethro Tull (#170)
He has to be wrong, right?
#174. To: Jethro Tull (#168)
The following hissy-fit by Goldi-Lox is found here: LP Notice: Israeli/Palistinian Conflict Section:
#175. To: Jethro Tull, ... (#153)
"Just like you KNOW the number of bozo's -MUD- has, eh?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#176. To: Mudboy Slim (#175)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#177. To: Neil McIver (#174)
90. To: Neil McIver (#85)
#178. To: Pinguinite, ALL (#167)
#179. To: christine (#178)
for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
#180. To: ..., Jethro Tull (#151)
#181. To: christine, Pinguinite (#178)
(Edited)
for the record, i want all to know that i trust you and your integrity as far as respecting member's privacy and the private mails.
#182. To: Jethro Tull (#173)
Probably safest to take both claims with a grain of salt and move on.
#183. To: christine (#178)
#184. To: FOH (#179)
He's not been trustworthy and dissed others before, as duly noted.
#185. To: aristeides (#180)
#7. To: noone222, FOH, Mudboy Slim (#4)
#186. To: angle (#182)
Both claims?
#187. To: Jethro Tull (#185)
Who said Robin invited me, counselor?
#188. To: aristeides, Jethro Tull, christine (#180)
#189. To: Pinguinite (#187)
#190. To: HOUNDDAWG (#188)
So, may I assume that because robin has gnashed her teeth and refused to answer some of my questions in the past that despite the invitation I should expect the same treatment?
#191. To: Pinguinite, Jethro Tull, christine, Ferret Mike (#126)
You may well disagree, which is fine, but it's no secret that a number of people besides robin and me see something wrong with JT.
#192. To: Jethro Tull (#185)
(Edited)
Who said Robin invited me, counselor?
#193. To: HOUNDDAWG (#191)
Despite the points on which we cannot agree I think she's a sweet, sensitive lady and I can't help but feel a genuine fondness for her.
#194. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
(Edited)
Puzzled I was invited.
#195. To: Pinguinite (#190)
So, may I assume that because robin has gnashed her teeth and refused to answer some of my questions in the past that despite the invitation I should expect the same treatment?
#196. To: angle (#193)
#197. To: HOUNDDAWG (#195)
It should come as no surprise that JT sensed that from you and not from me in the past, and that's why he and I can have spirited discussions without going for the throat.
#198. To: Pinguinite (#197)
JT and I cannot communicate.
#199. To: Jethro Tull (#198)
So lets have at it. Please pick any topic, foreign or domestic, and I’ll make my case against Obama. I'll be delighted to show you why Obama isn't worthy to shine our collective shoes.
JT and I cannot communicate.
#200. To: Pinguinite (#199)
Another year, perhaps.
#201. To: Jethro Tull (#198)
So lets have at it. Please pick any topic, foreign or domestic, and I’ll make my case against Obama. I'll be delighted to show you why Obama isn't worthy to shine our collective shoes.
#202. To: Peppa (#201)
Someone else is bound to pick up the offer. I am looking forward to hearing it.
#203. To: Cynicom (#202)
(Edited)
Is there enough money in it to make it worth while????
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