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Title: OK, so a new forum opens and I posted these two articles without comment, and immediately got banned. WTF?
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Published: May 10, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-10 13:46:57 by Jethro Tull
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HERE Thank you christine for allowing all POV to be discussed openly and freely. The 1st amendment is alive and well on 4um.
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#32. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
The People's Forum? Is it just me or does that have a leftist sound to it. The People's Forum, The People's Republic of China, etc
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
That's why it's The People's forum. As in the People's Republic (of China) some people are more equal than other people.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
It does have a collectivist theme, doesn't it?
Amen to that! Good luck to her and her band of lefties. When they want a rousing, no holds barred debate, they know where to find it :) Is the People's Forum being run by Robin?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
It does have a collectivist theme, doesn't it? JUST a bit...;)
yes, it's Robin's forum.
For the record, I wish robin would come back. I didn't agree with her about Obama, but she was an inspiration in many other ways.
Well I won't be visiting. My small government views would not be deemed appropriate there.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation". Vladimir Lenin
Yes, Robin is running it, she just opened it up yesterday or the day before. Got the email a couple of days ago, but just looked in yesterday.
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I wish her well in her new endeavor.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
Nice Edwyn Collins vid.
Well, there is more to life than OBAMA, QUEEN HITLERY and McSTANKY !!! Plus, I'm drinkin some beer and having FUN ...
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation". Vladimir Lenin
Taken by the body snatchers ... poor Robin.
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation". Vladimir Lenin
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised.
I feel slighted, no email, no nothing. Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised. I feel slighted, no email, no nothing. Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us. You're just bitter. ;)
I think that is what Obummer said????? We white trash be bitter that the good life has passed us by????
You represent the reason why extended families were a "good thing" ... the kids, grand kids and great grand kids were INFORMED !
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation". Vladimir Lenin
Perhaps you have read this before...I have stated here many times that my Grandparents were born BEFORE the Civil War. They knew a lot of the men that participated in Americas loss and were related to Rutherford B. Hayes. How I wish now I had the opportunity to question them, to learn, not what schools teach, rather first hand knowledge.
I think that is what Obummer said????? We white trash be bitter that the good life has passed us by???? Yes. And get used to it. Your POV is warped. Sorry, but you're not invited to the New America. Just jiggle the 'change' in your pocket, and make it last./s
Neither was I. I'm devastated.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
LOL
Ah I see. And here I thought it was my positions on AGW as being part of the implementation of the NWO and my lack of enthusiasm for voting for CFR choices.
Well, if its robin's forum, that explains a lot. Here's the thing - Obama uses the Saul Alinsky Ju-Jitsu for his arguments. It is very much akin to Church Recruiting. That kind of argument produces a visceral reaction in people who don't blame others for their unhappiness OR who have had horrible experiences with religious twits. For me, that's part of my loathing of Obama. The man's method of laying it out tickles me the wrong way. robin, on the other hand, bought into it completely. Obama learned this as a community organizer. Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" is required reading and is the standard handbook for a lot of Democrat candidates. For people who believe in self-sufficiency, the thought of "Blame someone else then go git 'em!" is anathema.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Why am I not surprised? She gave herself away LONG ago. Perhaps now the mood, conversation and communication will be more civil??? I sure hope so, as there are those who participate here who have a lot to offer. Stand tall, Christine ... we be getting rid of some of the trash on 4um as the People's Forum gathers it up.
robin, on the other hand, bought into it completely. And she used christine's dime and PM system to plan and execute her strategy. This is a person of high moral standing? Typical of the left.
Who do you think you are?
I don't "think", Fred, but KNOW I am a "trash picker".
None of your business Fred.
She didn't do that with me. She contacted me out of the blue through my regular email account - which she has had for five years or so. And I don't think she's been on since she said "bye". But the logs should show this in less than a minute. So there is no need to make accusations that she's skulking about on the PM. The logs will show when she came on and what she did while she was here.
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Well, I'm trying to figure out what is going on -- with multiple issues. robin bought into the Alinsky Ju-Jitsu entirely. That much I've figured out. She accepted the "You have a problem/you are miserable. I am the only solution" stuff. On the other hand, that kind of rhetoric completely repels me which explains why I react so violently to most leftist thought. Since they tend to use the same tactics and operate from the same playbook, it repels me entirely. Nobody tells me that I'm miserable and nobody tells me I have a problem and that they are the only solution to it. Thus, I never get "organized". Obama learned this as a community organizer. His campaign is based on simply expanding the methods nationally as opposed to working locally. It may also explain his negatives; a lot of people don't like Church Recruiting methods which operate along similar lines where you "create a need" for the Church with someone and then fill the need. Quite simply, if most forms of advertising and marketing don't work on you, you won't be attracted to Obama's campaign. In fact, you're likely to be repelled from it. That's where I'm at with the analysis so far. Next up is to get a copy of _Rules for Radicals_ and compare what it has to say with what I'm seeing. I'm willing to bet that is precisely what irks me about the Ferret. He uses many of the same strategies and ends up repelling me from his arguments as a result. One of Alinsky's methods is something I use at times and is something Obama uses constantly. That method is to inform people they don't live up to their own standards. Then you sell them yourself or your organization as a solution. I don't sell myself as a solution so I don't quite go that far, but I've got no problems in saying "If you don't like regime change in Iraq, then how can you advocate for it anywhere else, like Rhodesia or South Africa?" Obama also uses rapid-fire Socratic debate to initiate this as a one-way dialog with people to bring them over. Church recruiters do similar things and over time I've trained myself to respond to missionaries not with answers but with questions if they don't take "No thank you, go away" for an answer. The way to deal with someone involved in firing off a Socratic Debate with you is to respond in kind. Typically, they aren't prepared for it and aren't expecting it. Thus, you end up using their own tactics against them to a win. Its very slick, but the Alinsky tactics do not work on all people, especially if their target has been exposed to recruiting methods of religious groups that try to suck them in and have fended them off.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Butt out old man.
Join your friends at the new site junior. Run and tell goldi, she will take care of it, kid.
You are as transparent a person as I have ever had the misfortune to meet. Join your own kind.
Take your own advice, please.
Not only do people like Obama because he manipulates them with dark psychology, but Obama also has an atomic mind control ray. It emits from the television during cat food commercials and ensnares anyone who stares on the cat on screen. Notice how more and more commercials have black cats in them?
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#33. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
They don't want political argument. They want conformity and censorship. It will be a dust bin of socialism in a month or two.
#34. To: Hayek Fan (#32)
The People's Forum?
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
Those of us who know robin from the various forums we've been on over the years know she is the one who changed, not us.She took a hard political left which is hard for those who love freedom to digest.
#36. To: Jethro Tull, Hayek Fan, buckeye (#34)
The People's Forum?
#37. To: Hayek Fan (#35)
#38. To: christine, a vast rightwing conspirator, Zoroaster, bush_is_a_moonie, Jethro Tull, FOH (#37)
#39. To: christine (#37)
yes, it's Robin's forum.
#40. To: Whose 4UM is it anyways !!!!!!! (#35)
#41. To: Hayek Fan (#35)
Is the People's Forum being run by Robin?
#42. To: ... (#41)
Yes, Robin is running it, she just opened it up yesterday or the day before. Got the email a couple of days ago, but just looked in yesterday.
#43. To: noone222 (#40)
#44. To: buckeye (#43)
#45. To: ... (#41)
Yes, Robin is running it, she just opened it up yesterday or the day before. Got the email a couple of days ago, but just looked in yesterday.
#46. To: Hayek Fan, christine (#39)
Well I won't be visiting. My small government views would not be deemed appropriate there.
Thought for the day:
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
#47. To: farmfriend (#46)
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised.
#48. To: Cynicom (#47)
To: farmfriend
#49. To: Peppa (#48)
You're just bitter. ;)
#50. To: Cynicom (#47)
#51. To: noone222 (#50)
#52. To: Cynicom (#49)
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#53. To: farmfriend (#46)
I wasn't invited. LOL! I'm not surprised.
#54. To: Hayek Fan (#53)
Neither was I. I'm devastated.
Thought for the day:
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
#55. To: Cynicom (#47)
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
Thought for the day:
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
#56. To: Jethro Tull, christine, Ferret Mike (#0)
#57. To: Cynicom, Christine, All (#55)
Of course this was a spur of the moment thing, to found another forum. It happened so fast they they did not have time to mail out invitations to all of us.
#58. To: mirage (#56)
For me, that's part of my loathing of Obama. The man's method of laying it out tickles me the wrong way.
#59. To: Phant2000 (#57)
...we be getting rid of some of the trash on 4um as the People's Forum gathers it up.
#60. To: Fred Mertz (#59)
Who do you think you are?
#61. To: Fred Mertz (#59)
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
And she used christine's dime and PM system to plan and execute her strategy.
#63. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike (#58)
And she used christine's dime and PM system to plan and execute her strategy. This is a person of high moral standing? Typical of the left.
#64. To: Cynicom (#61)
#65. To: Fred Mertz (#64)
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#66. To: Cynicom (#65)
Butt out old man.
#67. To: Fred Mertz (#66)
#68. To: Cynicom (#67)
Butt out old man.
#69. To: Fred Mertz (#66)
Butt out ...
#70. To: Phant2000 (#69)
Who do you think you are?
#71. To: mirage (#63)
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