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Title: Weekend Brain Teaser: Is a Flag Pin a Flag?
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 10, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-10 15:00:59 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 184
Comments: 9

Politicians and TV heads sometimes tease each other for wearing or, more often, for NOT wearing flag pins. Obama was the target of such a tease in the recent ABC-sponsored debate.

The way I see this most important issue is like this: if the flag pin is not a flag then, it doesn't matter if someone wears one or not because it's just an ornament, like Mad Albright's huge lapel spiders. They were not in indicator of her patriotism, they were just kitsch.

If the flag pins are not flag, then they are (probably) Chinese-made kitsch.

If the flag pins ARE flags, then, should their wearers be oh-so-careful handling them and disposing them? For example, they should never touch the ground - there is such a regulation, I heard. Then, once worn out, they should be ceremonially burned or given away to the special Marine Corps flag destruction unit.

If the flag pins are flags, then so are all apparel items, including underwear and possibly certain specialty condoms that have the image of the flag on them. Our brave police forces should make sure that all flag underwear is either burned or properly disposed of by the Marine Corps flag disposal unit.

In my view, flag pins are not flags. They are kitsch. An indication that they are so was Lou Dobbs expressing flag pin size envy the other night the fact that some other CNN TV head had a flag pin that was bigger than his.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

To me it's not a flag, whether it is a pin or cloth. The flag is just another corporate logo, on par with McDonalds golden arches.

The only difference is, you dont get suspended for not standing up while others recite McDonalds Mission Statement. www.startribune.com/natio n/18800444.html

http://policestateusa.net/

PSUSA  posted on  2008-05-10   15:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

In my view, flag pins are not flags.

Flag:

A piece of cloth, usually rectangular, of distinctive color and design, used as a symbol, standard, signal, or emblem.

Emblem of national allegiance, as symbolized by a flag; see above.

See flag code.

I wear a tiny flag pin on my Sunday-go-to-meeting jacket, firstly, because I’m a vet, and secondly, and mainly, to piss certain folks off.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-10   16:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: karelian (#2)

I agree with the definition. Then... what was it that Obama was not wearing and he was being criticized for not wearing it?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-10   16:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Then... what was it that Obama was not wearing and he was being criticized for not wearing it?

See the last paragraph of my post. He was not wearing a tiny, sometimes tacky symbol of something. I my heart I know what that “something” means to me, what it means to someone else is something else.

I still feel I have a right to form an opinion based on insignificant looking evidence.

Not to mix metaphors, but it is the same way I feel when I see a “tramp stamp” on a possibly wonderful, upright young lady.

Didn’t mean to wax philosophical on a nice Saturday, I should be outside.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-10   16:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: karelian (#4)

I refuse to stand and salute the flag, though I will stand during the National Anthem.

I feel the pledge at best is a custom people do not know the origin of, and I do not like the 1950s addition of "under God" to it.

I have said it more then once, I have fulfilled any obligation to that particular ceremony. I also would never wear a flag pin as too many anti- American scoundrels hide behind it. My flag pin was my nine years as a Paratrooper in the U.S. Army, I don't need to wear a pin.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-10   17:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike. Patriots here (#5)

I feel the pledge at best is a custom people do not know the origin of, and I do not like the 1950s addition of "under God" to it.

Also, it's time to take out that 'land of the free' crap, immediately.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-10   18:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#6)

That's right. You try to act freely in any practical way and, more often than not, you either get arrested, fined, expelled, yelled at, excluded, demerited, booed, ridiculed. But... well... we still got the politicians talking about freedom so it's okay.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-10   18:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Is a Flag Pin a Flag?

Let's run it up the lapel and see if anyone salutes it.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-05-10   19:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: MUDDOG (#8)

LOL - good test. So... what was it that Obama wasn't wearing on his lapel again?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-10   19:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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