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Title: I just got informed that there is a rumor being spread in 4um's PM that I have plans to ban Obama supporters. It's not true.
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Published: May 11, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-05-11 12:31:42 by christine
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All viewpoints are welcome. Free speech is and always will be alive and well on 4um. How about those of you spreading the rumor and/or speculating put it out here on the board so that I have the opportunity to defend and dispel the myths.

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What? I hope those spreading these rumors speak up and admit the rumormongering.

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   12:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

As a grizzled veteran of California’s “kill Bradley” campaign of -82 I want to hear every grass roots peep from the obamaphile crowd. Sun Tzu’s “know your enemy” is a still an invaluable political tool.

In case you’ve forgotten, the Duke won over Tom despite “overwhelming” odds.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-11   18:17:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

As a grizzled veteran of California’s “kill Bradley” campaign of -82 I want to hear every grass roots peep from the obamaphile crowd. Sun Tzu’s “know your enemy” is a still an invaluable political tool.

In case you’ve forgotten, the Duke won over Tom despite “overwhelming” odds.

I have one on filter right now, and simply because it simply brought nothing whatsoever to the table after repeated opportunities to do so. But, the Ophiles simply have no America first defense to present, so I understand.

At times, I've had up to 4 or 5 on my filter, but you're right...with all but 1, 2 or a few it's very instructive, if not tedious.

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:30:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But, the Ophiles simply have no America first defense to present, so I understand.

That's not quite true. I see the elite as not being monolithic. As in any human field of endeavor, they have bitter fights among themselves as to what is important and what their priorities should be. They would fight among themselves for power and control, whoever they are. Each one of these candidates represents one elite faction. McCain is obviously the most pro-Israel among the three.

In looking at Brzezinski's perspectives, and I have to assume Obama is in his camp, he has a more balanced view of Israel than McCain does. So the distinction between McCain and Obama is significant if what worries you most is the war in Iraq. However, Iran and Pakistan are looming as potential threats to Israel, and Zbig's wife is evidently a Swiss Jew. "Hope" isn't enough here.

Hillary is the wild card. We don't know why she has evidently fallen out of favor. Maybe she made one snide remark too many about the Jews, as she has been rumored to do.

In any case, people can take sides. I understand that.

My justification for not voting for one of these three is that none of them have any allegiance to the law of the land, and they have each made that perfectly clear. When they appoint justices, sign laws, veto good legislation, arrange for war against foreigners who have no quarrels with me, and sign abominable executive orders, I will be able to say that I did not vote for one of them.

By the way, the law of the land is important, but I think it needs to be changed. Clearly it hasn't permitted the citizenry to stop the destruction of their freedoms. The founding fathers weren't extreme enough in that regard. This is why Patrick Henry smelled a rat. He was right.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   18:40:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's a great answer, I blasted through it once. I get it, people assuming that the annihilation of the State of Israel is the cure all (even though I believe their power base is centered in Europe and then America as a Junior Partner) should go with Obama (even though Obama is vetted as CFR-Kosher and talks in the same platitudes).

But you and I both know that Zbig and Kissinger are the height of the NeoCon-NeoCommie matrix that in the end is going to the exact-same-place.

This election is over, any of McHillObama will preside over the end of the Republic and the beginning of the North American Soviet State which is part of the greater Zbig-Kissinger vision...so, it's not Israel, it's not China and it's not really even Europe. It's the traitors in our very own midst...

That's my quick read and quick response, I wanted to get that in before I take off. I'll be back after dinner, read it a couple more times...

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:46:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I get it, people assuming that the annihilation of the State of Israel is the cure all...

I think cures come in stages. Israel has been a major focus of the elite's efforts for more than 120 years. If we could only stop caring what happens to it at all, that would solve most of those problems.

I have. When I realized that the elites cared more about Israel's borders than mine, it was easy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   18:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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