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Title: I just got informed that there is a rumor being spread in 4um's PM that I have plans to ban Obama supporters. It's not true.
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Published: May 11, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-05-11 12:31:42 by christine
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All viewpoints are welcome. Free speech is and always will be alive and well on 4um. How about those of you spreading the rumor and/or speculating put it out here on the board so that I have the opportunity to defend and dispel the myths.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

This is sad. You've been so tolerant of everyone and all views. Sorry your "friends" see fit to do this to you.


Thought for the day:
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'

farmfriend  posted on  2008-05-11   12:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

The socialist moles despise our 2nd and now our 1st A.

Nothing new.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-11   12:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

What? I hope those spreading these rumors speak up and admit the rumormongering.

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   12:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BUMP (#3)

isn't it ironic that those who are spreading the rumor are in fact the ones who have purged themselves??

christine  posted on  2008-05-11   13:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

Did Ping run off with robin to the People's Place ?

You should have let the self-purge continue awhile longer and let their private rumor be the Marxist Establishment ObamaCONs' undoing...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   13:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

All viewpoints are welcome. Free speech is and always will be alive and well on 4um. How about those of you spreading the rumor and/or speculating put it out here on the board so that I have the opportunity to defend and dispel the myths.

Thanks christine for reiterating what 4um stands for. There definitely those out there who will stop at nothing to ruin the best forum on the net.

TOS was about the same age(years) as 4um when it started to be done in by the same kind of shenanigans. I personally appreciate being allowed on here as a member(guest) and assure you that I would never do anything intentional to harm 4um. I love the FREEDOM we have on this forum. Obviously there are some who do not. Thank you again for allowing me to be part of it.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-05-11   13:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

Chrissie, friend, I'm sorry to see this happening to you. It isn't right, at least not in a decent society. You don't deserve this sort of treatment.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-05-11   13:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

I just got informed that there is a rumor being spread in 4um's PM

I think it is incumbent upon you to make sure I get clued in on all rumors.

I hate being left out.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-11   13:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#4)

isn't it ironic that those who are spreading the rumor are in fact the ones who have purged themselves??

We can't let facts get in the way of a hissy fit.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   13:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, Cynicom (#0)

How about those of you spreading the rumor and/or speculating put it out here on the board so that I have the opportunity to defend and dispel the myths.

...

I think it is incumbent upon you to make sure I get clued in on all rumors.

Where's the rumor subscription ping list when you need it?


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-05-11   13:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: MUDDOG, *4um Rumor Mill* (#10)

Rumor Mill bump


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   13:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: MUDDOG, Peppa (#10)

Where's the rumor subscription ping list when you need it?

I get bozoed by the ton, ignored and shunned, all of which is sufferable, but cutting me out of the "rumor" loop is too much.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-11   13:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

I haven't received such an p-mail.

Maybe they are just expressed wishes or fears.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   13:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine, Cynicom (#0)

just got informed that there is a rumor being spread in 4um's PM that I have plans to ban Obama supporters.

OK. I admit it. Cynicom is spreading the rumors. LOL!

Just joshing.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-05-11   13:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#12)

My bozo count went down from 3 to 2 since yesterday. If yours is increasing, maybe you should first be depressed, then launch 'operation hearts and minds'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   13:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#4)

isn't it ironic that those who are spreading the rumor are in fact the ones who have purged themselves??

If that is true, then they are using standard tactics of "pick an enemy, go after the enemy" and if there is no enemy, invent one.

Looks like how the Democrat race is going; divide and conquer tactics between Hillary and Obama. Those who either haven't gone out into the world or have made it or owe their existance to "preferences" are supporting Obama. Those who are being held back by Government Policies are supporting Hillary.

I may be oversimplifying, but that appears to be how it is.

Comments? Corrections?

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   13:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FOH, Christine, All (#11)

I am glad. I really enjoy watching the obamaphiles try to defend the indefensible. It's comical.

I've been here for a couple months now, and have yet to hear of anyone getting banned. Even a couple of people that really deserve it didnt get banned.

It's a political Dien Bien Phu. Congrats, obamatards, you just took the low ground. Get ready for the artillery that will soon rain down on your heads.

http://policestateusa.net/

PSUSA  posted on  2008-05-11   13:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mirage (#16)

Comments? Corrections?

Dead on, but just one thing.

People who know each other for years, and their politics, have now been reduced to claiming that "we're" for McCain b/c we're opposed to the socialist.

They know it isn't true, but stay on the Party line anyway.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-11   13:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA (#17)

I am glad. I really enjoy watching the obamaphiles try to defend the indefensible. It's comical.

I've been here for a couple months now, and have yet to hear of anyone getting banned. Even a couple of people that really deserve it didnt get banned.

It's a political Dien Bien Phu. Congrats, obamatards, you just took the low ground. Get ready for the artillery that will soon rain down on your heads.

LOLOL

They've tried to silence my guns, I'm now up to 23 filters (WOO HOO !!)...however, what they don't get is that *THEY* are not my audience.

All that they have managed to do is give me a free fire zone...!!! heheheheh


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   14:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

People who know each other for years, and their politics, have now been reduced to claiming that "we're" for McCain b/c we're opposed to the socialist.

They know it isn't true, but stay on the Party line anyway.

What flavor talking points do you expect from Daily Gas, El Pee, DUmpster and Quisling Republic...?


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   14:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

People who know each other for years, and their politics, have now been reduced to claiming that "we're" for McCain b/c we're opposed to the socialist.

That's where I'm seeing the "if no 'enemy' exists, then invent one" thing. It is as if they have adopted Bush's "If you're not with us, you're against us" attitude....while deploring Bush's use of it.

I don't understand that part. How can anyone simultaneously complain about someone's actions and then go out to do the same thing while claiming to be on the 'right' side of things?

Still trying to make sense of this mess; any additional data, viewpoints, items to look into are welcome!

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   14:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FOH (#19)

They've tried to silence my guns, I'm now up to 23 filters (WOO HOO !!)...however, what they don't get is that *THEY* are not my audience

It's true. Your audience is me and, hopefully ONLY me.

Like John Lennon used to say, and I'm saying it now: "I'm a jealous guy".

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   14:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mirage (#21)

Still trying to make sense of this mess; any additional data, viewpoints, items to look into are welcome!

It's simple, really.

Some of them finally have the cover to be themselves, Socialists/Communists/Progressives/Compassionate Konservatives and then those who could use a goobermint benefit.

Others just like thinking they're tolerant and 'cool'.

Yet others actually believe THIS particular Establishment tool and have concluded that Omarx will be THEIR King...he will end all Globalist wars, usher in a new Utopian Camelot and drive the money changers out of the temple.

Some are wolves, but most are sheep...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   14:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)

It's true. Your audience is me and, hopefully ONLY me.

You're my token Socialist ?

lolol


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   14:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#12)

I get bozoed by the ton, ignored and shunned, all of which is sufferable, but cutting me out of the "rumor" loop is too much.

You are lucky that you stopped into my booth.... I have creeestal ball.... come zit down, and let us stare into the glowing globe of truth..........

Keep your hands onda table you.. no zignalling frinz.

Ah kay, letzee here....... you have checkered past..... you have travelled long trail by foot, zidecar and mule to far away hut in mountain top.

You have befriended many and have mind of your own... zis is not gud.

HOld please.

(please insert 25 cents)

Ah yezzzzzzz.... ball is verking againnnnnn..

I zee flying hammers..... yes yes... zee them... look clozely.... very very angry zat you have not succumed to zee greater good... you zelfish monkey.

Now you are hammer enemy.

*ding*

Times up.. rumor now fact. Hammer enemy.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   14:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: FOH (#24)

Dear, I am sorry, but I do not find you offensive enough or rude enough to filter you out. I wish I could try to engage you in some discussion but there's nothing of substance that you say that I find worth replying to and I don't expect you to say anything intelligent regardless of the topic. As you noticed, I do comment on some of your inconsequential posts from time to time but nothing interesting ever comes back so my expectations are very, very low.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   14:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: FOH (#23)

Some of them finally have the cover to be themselves, Socialists/Communists/Progressives/Compassionate Konservatives and then those who could use a goobermint benefit.

I'm also leaning toward the "Support Obama or you're a racist" angle as well. Many of them have tried playing that card. Fortunately, I've got my own "inauthentically black due to a mixed marriage in the 1800s listed on the Federal Indian Census Rolls so I'm legally Indian and Black" card to throw back.

It gets fun watching them implode at that point and bozo me because their line of attack has been taken away.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   14:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#12)

I get bozoed by the ton, ignored and shunned

That surprises me.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   16:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#12)

I get bozoed by the ton, ignored and shunned

'Buked and scorned.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-05-11   16:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeye (#28)

That surprises me.

buck

Things are so bad I now have to pay someone to listen to my complaints.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-11   16:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#26) (Edited)

Dear, I am sorry, but I do not find you offensive enough or rude enough to filter you out. I wish I could try to engage you in some discussion but there's nothing of substance that you say that I find worth replying to and I don't expect you to say anything intelligent regardless of the topic. As you noticed, I do comment on some of your inconsequential posts from time to time but nothing interesting ever comes back so my expectations are very, very low.

Dear ? I didn't know you were a split tail...

When you provide something other than intellectual dishonesty, blatant propagandizing for a Marxist, Liberal, Establishment-vetted, racist-tool...of the exact same World Orderist cabal that vetted Hitlery, McNuts, W, BJ, HW, Reagan-HW, Jimmuh, etc...then maybe we will have a REASON for expectations rising to the level of thoughtful and pleasant discourse.

In the meantime y'all can go eff camels for all I care, ya lowlife, bootlicking, Weathermen-Commie dog.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   16:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mirage (#27)

Fortunately, I've got my own "inauthentically black due to a mixed marriage in the 1800s listed on the Federal Indian Census Rolls so I'm legally Indian and Black" card to throw back.

Nice. Ya got that card trumped...

It gets fun watching them implode at that point and bozo me because their line of attack has been taken away.

I reached my personal high of 23 filters, but I believe some of the ObamaCONs are utilizing multiple accounts. So, taking a conservative # of sleepers that still are flying completely false flags into account, I figure I've accounted for almost all of them.

heheheh


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   16:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FOH (#31)

LOL :)))

I am sorry, but I can't take you seriously, mainly because I don't believe that you do.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   16:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FOH (#31)

When you provide something other than intellectual dishonesty, blatant propagandizing for a Marxist, Liberal, Establishment-vetted, racist-tool...of the exact same World Orderist cabal that vetted Hitlery, McNuts, W, BJ, HW, Reagan-HW, Jimmuh, etc...then maybe we will have a REASON for expectations rising to the level of thoughtful and pleasant discourse.

In the meantime y'all can go eff camels for all I care, ya lowlife, bootlicking, Weathermen-Commie dog.

It's hilarious how you wingnutters can't rise above the feces flinging level.

But I guess if you could think, you wouldn't be wingunts.

Huh?

.

...  posted on  2008-05-11   16:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FOH (#31) (Edited)

'Scuse me tiger. I forgot that you have half the site on bozo. (In addition to half the site having you on bozo.)

LMAO!!

.

...  posted on  2008-05-11   16:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)

LOL :)))

I am sorry, but I can't take you seriously, mainly because I don't believe that you do.

Coming from one who supports a Marxist-Racist-CFR-Trilat-NAU-OWM-Liberation Theology-Establishment-Tool...I understand why you say that.

;)


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   16:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FOH (#36) (Edited)

Coming from one who supports a Marxist-Racist-CFR-Trilat-NAU-OWM-Liberation Theology-Establishment-Tool...I understand why you say that.

Got a link to back up your silly smear here?

No?

Didn't think so. Most blowhards don't.

.

...  posted on  2008-05-11   16:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FOH (#36)

See? What you need is inspiration and interactivity because they breed in you creativity.

So, your statement that the more people filter you out, the better, is false. If everyone ignored you, you'd be effectively silenced. You better pray that I stay engaged and stir your creative (but stinky) juices from time to time.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-11   16:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#38) (Edited)

See? What you need is inspiration and interactivity because they breed in you creativity.

So, your statement that the more people filter you out, the better, is false. If everyone ignored you, you'd be effectively silenced. You better pray that I stay engaged and stir your creative (but stinky) juices from time to time.

LOLOL. Coming from one who supports a Marxist-Racist-CFR-Trilat-NAU-OWM-Liberation Theology-Establishment-Tool...

You're so far off it's very boring to me, honestly...but I'll let you continue on in your self-delusional fantasies. Your condescending theories are always good for a laugh, comrade.

" Communism is the death of the soul. It is the organization of total conformity--in short, of tyranny--and it is committed to making tyranny universal."

Adlai E. Stevenson


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   16:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FOH (#39)

You're so far off it's very boring to me, honestly...but I'll let you continue on in your self-delusional fantasies. Your condescending theories are always good for a laugh, comrade.

It's pretty obvious you can't handle the real world bucko.

Feel safe when half the world has you on bozo and you have half the world on bozo?

Heck, you're as big a fighting man as George W. Bush. Why don't you get a flight soit and prance around in it for us?

.

...  posted on  2008-05-11   16:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#38)

Alright, I'll give you one more opportunity.

Which of the following (1-10) do you disapprove of and why?:

10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

  1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

  2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
  3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
  4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
  5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

  6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
  7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

  8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
  9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

  10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[4]

According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism (but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage[5]).


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   16:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: FOH (#41)

Which of the following (1-10) do you disapprove of and why?:

Can we say strawman from an inarticulate wingnutter?

By the way, when did you stop beating your wife?

.

...  posted on  2008-05-11   16:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#0)

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

I agree with you, christine...members of the ObamaNation should be welcome at the 4um.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-05-11   16:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#30)

Things are so bad I now have to pay someone to listen to my complaints.

So, you're in therapy? Takes a big person to admit something like that.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-05-11   16:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FOH (#32)

I enjoy responding to things I find odious with ridicule.

Color it a weakness.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-11   16:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#0)

Dear baby Jesus.

What next?

Just insanity.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-11   17:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#41)

ping to 41

You took off very abrubtly...crafting a response ?...or do you not have a defense available ?

[crickets]


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   17:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mirage (#45)

I enjoy responding to things I find odious with ridicule.

Color it a weakness.

You'll never catch me...I'm at 23 and thinking about creating some new accounts just to pad my lead.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   17:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mirage (#3)

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

As a grizzled veteran of California’s “kill Bradley” campaign of -82 I want to hear every grass roots peep from the obamaphile crowd. Sun Tzu’s “know your enemy” is a still an invaluable political tool.

In case you’ve forgotten, the Duke won over Tom despite “overwhelming” odds.

karelian  posted on  2008-05-11   18:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mudboy Slim (#43)

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

I agree with you, christine...members of the ObamaNation should be welcome at the 4um.

Yes! Obama will save the Republic and Superman will once again defeat the Penguin and the Joker. Santa Claus will make his appointed rounds and the Easter Bunny will never be late.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   18:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

LOLOL

You magnificently just speared a neocommie and a neocon with two successive posts !

ahaha


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: karelian (#49)

I want to hear every grass roots peep from the obamaphile crowd. Sun Tzu’s “know your enemy” is a still an invaluable political tool.

Yes!

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   18:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: karelian, mirage (#49)

I, for one, want to see what the Obama supporters are saying and how they do it.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

As a grizzled veteran of California’s “kill Bradley” campaign of -82 I want to hear every grass roots peep from the obamaphile crowd. Sun Tzu’s “know your enemy” is a still an invaluable political tool.

In case you’ve forgotten, the Duke won over Tom despite “overwhelming” odds.

I have one on filter right now, and simply because it simply brought nothing whatsoever to the table after repeated opportunities to do so. But, the Ophiles simply have no America first defense to present, so I understand.

At times, I've had up to 4 or 5 on my filter, but you're right...with all but 1, 2 or a few it's very instructive, if not tedious.


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FOH (#51)

You magnificently just speared a neocommie and a neocon with two successive posts !

As Phil Collins said in a little guest role on Miami Vice, "I try to do my little bit for law and order."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   18:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

Obama will save the Republic and Superman will once again defeat the Penguin and the Joker. Santa Claus will make his appointed rounds and the Easter Bunny will never be late.

LOLOL!!

They have made new hidey hole now.

Not too much super-duper courage.

They close their eyes to what they do not want to see.
They close their ears to what they do not care to hear.
They silence voices that question their logic.
They scream racism while practicing it.
They scream intolerance while employing it.
They are spineless.
They are thin skinned.
They are one with the Easter Bunny......
Cotton Balls.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   18:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: James Deffenbach (#54)

As Phil Collins said in a little guest role on Miami Vice, "I try to do my little bit for law and order."

AHAHA


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: FOH (#53)

But, the Ophiles simply have no America first defense to present, so I understand.

That's not quite true. I see the elite as not being monolithic. As in any human field of endeavor, they have bitter fights among themselves as to what is important and what their priorities should be. They would fight among themselves for power and control, whoever they are. Each one of these candidates represents one elite faction. McCain is obviously the most pro-Israel among the three.

In looking at Brzezinski's perspectives, and I have to assume Obama is in his camp, he has a more balanced view of Israel than McCain does. So the distinction between McCain and Obama is significant if what worries you most is the war in Iraq. However, Iran and Pakistan are looming as potential threats to Israel, and Zbig's wife is evidently a Swiss Jew. "Hope" isn't enough here.

Hillary is the wild card. We don't know why she has evidently fallen out of favor. Maybe she made one snide remark too many about the Jews, as she has been rumored to do.

In any case, people can take sides. I understand that.

My justification for not voting for one of these three is that none of them have any allegiance to the law of the land, and they have each made that perfectly clear. When they appoint justices, sign laws, veto good legislation, arrange for war against foreigners who have no quarrels with me, and sign abominable executive orders, I will be able to say that I did not vote for one of them.

By the way, the law of the land is important, but I think it needs to be changed. Clearly it hasn't permitted the citizenry to stop the destruction of their freedoms. The founding fathers weren't extreme enough in that regard. This is why Patrick Henry smelled a rat. He was right.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   18:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Peppa (#55)

Obama will save the Republic and Superman will once again defeat the Penguin and the Joker. Santa Claus will make his appointed rounds and the Easter Bunny will never be late.

LOLOL!!

They have made new hidey hole now.

Not too much super-duper courage.

They close their eyes to what they do not want to see.
They close their ears to what they do not care to hear.
They silence voices that question their logic.
They scream racism while practicing it.
They scream intolerance while employing it.
They are spineless.
They are thin skinned.
They are one with the Easter Bunny......
Cotton Balls.

Tragically comical !!

LOLOL


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FOH (#58)

Tragically comical !!

LOLOL

;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   18:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeye (#57)

That's a great answer, I blasted through it once. I get it, people assuming that the annihilation of the State of Israel is the cure all (even though I believe their power base is centered in Europe and then America as a Junior Partner) should go with Obama (even though Obama is vetted as CFR-Kosher and talks in the same platitudes).

But you and I both know that Zbig and Kissinger are the height of the NeoCon-NeoCommie matrix that in the end is going to the exact-same-place.

This election is over, any of McHillObama will preside over the end of the Republic and the beginning of the North American Soviet State which is part of the greater Zbig-Kissinger vision...so, it's not Israel, it's not China and it's not really even Europe. It's the traitors in our very own midst...

That's my quick read and quick response, I wanted to get that in before I take off. I'll be back after dinner, read it a couple more times...


Chuck Baldwin for President 2008

FOH  posted on  2008-05-11   18:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FOH (#60)

I get it, people assuming that the annihilation of the State of Israel is the cure all...

I think cures come in stages. Israel has been a major focus of the elite's efforts for more than 120 years. If we could only stop caring what happens to it at all, that would solve most of those problems.

I have. When I realized that the elites cared more about Israel's borders than mine, it was easy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-11   18:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Peppa (#55)

LOLOL!!

Glad you liked it. Nice to see you, Peppa.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   18:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: James Deffenbach (#62)

Glad you liked it. Nice to see you, Peppa.

Back atch'a JD!!

Isn't skipping through Wonderland a hoot? ;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   18:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Peppa (#63)

Isn't skipping through Wonderland a hoot? ;)

Yes, it is! And I wonder which of the pills they were singing about in the song White Rabbit the Obamaphiles have been taking? The one that makes you larger or the one that makes you small? Clearly they haven't been taking the ones mama gives you that "don't do anything at all."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   19:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

Yes, it is! And I wonder which of the pills they were singing about in the song White Rabbit the Obamaphiles have been taking? The one that makes you larger or the one that makes you small? Clearly they haven't been taking the ones mama gives you that "don't do anything at all."

HA!

Great question!!!

Shall we ask Alice? ;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   19:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

Actually, since the Matrix films, it is more a do you take the blue or red pill argument anymore.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-11   19:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Peppa (#65)

Great question!!!

Shall we ask Alice? ;)

Yes, by all means--I think they may have gotten some of what the caterpillar with the hookah was smoking. Or maybe the mushrooms.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   19:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#8)

I think it is incumbent upon you to make sure I get clued in on all rumors.

I hate being left out.

Will you please let me know when someone advises you? I'm usually late to these parties.

angle  posted on  2008-05-11   19:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#66)

Actually, since the Matrix films, it is more a do you take the blue or red pill argument anymore.

No, it isn't even a question when I see people falling all over themselves slobbering over what they should know is just another establishment troll who has once again fooled a significant number of sheeple into believing that "this time it will be different." Makes me want to hurl.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-11   19:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#67)

By golly.........

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving slow
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead

And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said;
"FEED YOUR HEAD

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-11   19:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: James Deffenbach (#69)

I have made clear I do not support destroying the sense that democracy and the process of participating in elections despite obvious problems with voting fraud or what Phyllis Schlafly's old book, "A choice, not an echo" talks about.

I deal with Nihilism locally all the time, and it's tenet 'Objective morality does not exist; therefore no action is logically preferable to any other' is not anything I buy into.

I go ahead and pick a candidate to support with eyes wide open to the problems with government and the election process we have here in the United States today.

I have many anarchist friends who believe in voluntary extinction and who feel not doing anything because everything is so fucked up in the world.

I have had my fill of that sort of mindset, so as I said, you are welcome to your opinion here, but I cannot buy into it.

Thanks for sharing it however.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-11   19:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Ferret Mike, robin (#71)

Has robin left the building? Who else?

I think Red Jones is still posting here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-05-11   21:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Fred Mertz (#72)

Robin is not posting here right now.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-11   23:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: christine (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-12   9:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: ghostdogtxn (#74)

thanks!

christine  posted on  2008-05-12   11:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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