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Title: Calif. Assembly Rejects Anti-Illegal Immigration Amendments
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Newsmax
URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/6/142534.shtml
Published: Jul 6, 2005
Author: AP
Post Date: 2005-07-06 18:53:44 by Zipporah
Keywords: Anti-Illegal, Immigration, Amendments
Views: 127
Comments: 27
An Assembly committee rejected proposed constitutional amendments seeking to deny a series of benefits to illegal immigrants and create a state border police force, but both could resurface next year as ballot initiatives. The Judiciary Committee voted 4-2 Tuesday to turn down an amendment by Assemblyman Mark Wyland, R-Del Mar, that would prevent illegal immigrants from receiving any health care or social services not required by federal law. The committee also voted 5-2 to reject an amendment by Assemblyman Ray Haynes, R-Murrieta, that would create a state border police force to supplement federal efforts to enforce immigration laws, including the ban on hiring illegal immigrants. Republican lawmakers said illegal immigration costs California $9 billion to $10 billion a year in areas such as education, health care and incarceration and say the federal government isn't controlling the borders. "The federal government has just abandoned state and local governments and is doing a terrible job on this...," Assemblyman Tom Harman, R-Huntington Beach, said in support of the Wyland measure. "Something needs to be done. This is the right step in the right direction." Opponents said both measures raised constitutional questions, that they could actually increase state costs and that the two lawmakers should be complaining to President Bush about inadequate immigration enforcement. "If there's a need for greater security, that's a need the federal administration should be taking on," said Judiciary Committee chairman Dave Jones, D-Sacramento. Haynes said California officials should "quit whining about the federal government doing their job and actually get about the business of doing our job - protecting the safety, health and quite frankly the pocketbook of the people of the state of California." The committee rejected the proposals along party lines. To take effect, constitutional amendments require a two-thirds majority vote in both houses of the Legislature and then must be approved by voters. Haynes and Wyland said there would be efforts to put their proposals - or similar ones - on the ballot next year as initiatives. Such a step could re-ignite the heated debate over immigration that was triggered by Proposition 187 in 1994. Voters approved Proposition 187, which was a broader ban on social services for illegal immigrants than Wyland's legislation, but a federal court subsequently ruled most of it unconstitutional. Wyland predicted it would have been upheld if then-Gov. Gray Davis had pursued an appeal. Wyland said he was "absolutely certain" his legislation would be upheld if challenged in the courts, but Jones said it had "serious constitutional defects." Opponents also challenged Haynes' contention that federal law and court rulings would allow California to set up its own force of immigration police. Hayes said he envisioned a force of about 1,700 officers that could supplement federal efforts to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the Mexican border, as well as arresting illegal immigrants who succeed in entering the state. He said there is no federal enforcement once illegal immigrants get passed the border. Opponents questioned where the deficit-plagued state would get the money to pay for the extra officers and said immigration police could jeopardize the relationship between local officers and immigrant communities. "The solution is not to create a new border patrol," Francisco Estrada, director of public policy for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, told the committee. What's needed instead, he said, is "comprehensive immigration reform" that would clear up a visa backlog and allow a legal immigrant work force. Wyland said his legislation would bar the state from providing non-emergency medical care for illegal immigrants. It also would make them ineligible for retirement benefits, welfare, disability benefits, unemployment benefits, and housing and food assistance, according to an Assembly analysis of the legislation. The measure also would prohibit the state from issuing driver's licenses or state identification cards to illegal immigrants, bar attempts to allow them to vote, deny them a break on tuition at public colleges and universities, and require voters to show proof of citizenship at the polls. A bill by state Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, that would allow illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses has passed the Senate and is awaiting a hearing in the Assembly Appropriations Committee.
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#1. To: Zipporah, The Border (#0)
Illegal immigrants can get driver's license, yet a DUI is a felony and an American CITIZEN looses their rights.
"What is this JEWS thing. You sound like a Nazi." -- Mekons4 posted on 2005-06-02 23:41:48 ET
He's right, we should be using the Army.
If a problem is taken seriously enough it seems go-to agency is IRS. Hell, they were the only ones could get Capone, and it will get them off the backs of citizens. Open border with every audit accompanied by a "reasonable" entrance fee, that's my policy proposal. Vote Dakmar 2008! ps, in the interests of multicultural diversity, no applicant shall be screened by someone of similar ethnic heritage, and we shall start a whole new cabinet level department to ridicule and dispose of any and all preference based legislation. Dakmar 2008!
Health care is problematic. IF we are going to let people cross our borders, it is to everyone's benefit that everyone within our borders is at least free of contagious diseases (for example). Also, prevention is cheaper than expensive treatment later. They are bringing in multiple-drug resistant (MDR) TB, which is no joke. Especially considering so many end up working in the food industry; from the fields, to the cannery, to the restaurant kitchens, to the fast food counters. The answer is to secure the borders. This will solve a great deal more than mere healthcare issues. Go MMP!
War is just a racket. Major General Smedley Butler, USMC; 1933
Cool If you win, can I be in charge of the thermonuclear weapons?
No. I was hoping you would humbly accept title of Empress of India. Hear me out....
Witches?
Interesting proposition, how much does it pay? (I'm better looking BUT I won't wear a dress)
Nuke'm!
Well that just queers the whole deal right there, dig?
Nucular Witches? EEEEEEEEEEK!
You've got my vote, Bubbertooie.
What elephant in the living room? Do you mean the one we're forbidden to talk about?
I really will destroy Department of Education, I'll staff it with crackheads. Dangit, I need a new plan, that one failed.
That many gay mexicans can prolly do some good harmonies.
I didn't want to be Empress of India, anyway. I want to be The Duke of New York Since you're giving Flintlock the prized Empress of India gig, can I be in charge of the soccer mommy disposal units?
Are those chandeliers actually part of some deranged designers plans for an even more opulent motoring experience?
If you had responded to any one of the 1,319 e-mails I sent you over the weekend you'd already have your answer, brute!
If the U.S. ever had completely open borders, and we want to know what the country would look like, all we have to do is look at the world: whites on top, Asians slightly underneath, Mexicans way down at the bottom, Muslims probably underneath them, and blacks at the absolute bottom, Jews ultimately ostracized and then expelled because of their attempts to destroy every culture than admits them. Just like the world has always been.
Absolutely! It's part of the complete (old) Cadillac Luxury Experience. Ask any "brother"
Great! my first minion
That's exactly what Mexico does. And if your papers are not in order.... The hypocrisy of all this is breathtaking.
In the future all luxury vehicles will be judged by the amount of damage they cause, whether it be idiots strapping rockets to snowmobiles as part of their sacred lumberjack festivities, or simply abandoned babies run-over by careless shoppers, we can make a fortune in acid vats.
Way ahead of you. I bought my first anodizing and plating shop years ago, and business is good. One of these days, we might even start anodizing and plating.
As long as everything looks nice, that's where the money is.
#2. To: Zipporah (#0)
"The solution is not to create a new border patrol," Francisco Estrada, director of public policy for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, told the committee.
Yez, Baaz!
#3. To: Flintlock (#2)
He's right, we should be using the Army.
#4. To: Zipporah (#0)
#5. To: Dakmar (#3)
Vote Dakmar 2008!
Yez, Baaz!
#6. To: Flintlock (#5)
If you win, can I be in charge of the thermonuclear weapons?
#7. To: Flintlock (#5)
#8. To: Dakmar (#6)
I was hoping you would humbly accept title of Empress of India. Hear me out....
Queen Victoria as Empress of India
Yez, Baaz!
#9. To: Dakmar (#7)
Witches?
Yez, Baaz!
#10. To: Flintlock (#8)
(I'm better looking BUT I won't wear a dress)
#11. To: Flintlock (#9)
#12. To: Dakmar (#3)
Dakmar 2008!
#13. To: Zipporah (#0)
#14. To: Esso (#12)
#15. To: 1776 (#13)
#16. To: Dakmar (#10)
Well that just queers the whole deal right there, dig?
Yez, Baaz!
#17. To: Dakmar (#14)
#18. To: Flintlock (#16)
#19. To: Esso (#17)
Since you're giving Flintlock the prized Empress of India gig, can I be in charge of the soccer mommy disposal units?
#20. To: Zipporah (#0)
#21. To: Dakmar (#18)
Are those chandeliers actually part of some deranged designers plans for an even more opulent motoring experience?
Yez, Baaz!
#22. To: Flintlock (#16)
#23. To: Esso (#22)
Yez, Baaz!
#24. To: Flintlock (#2)
He's right, we should be using the Army.
#25. To: Flintlock (#21)
#26. To: Dakmar (#25)
#27. To: Esso (#26)
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