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Title: W Virginia keeps distance from Obama
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URL Source: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2a50425a- ... 7658,s01=1.html?nclick_check=1
Published: May 11, 2008
Author: Andrew Ward
Post Date: 2008-05-12 09:59:34 by Peppa
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Like most people in Mingo County, West Virginia, Leonard Simpson is a lifelong Democrat. But given a choice between Barack Obama and John McCain in November, the 67-year-old retired coalminer would vote Republican.

“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,” said Mr Simpson, drawing on a cigarette outside the fire station in Williamson, a coalmining town of 3,400 people surrounded by lush wooded hillsides.

A landslide victory for Mrs Clinton in West Virginia will do little to improve her fading hopes of winning the Democratic nomination, because Mr Obama has an almost insurmountable lead in the overall race.

But Tuesday’s contest is likely to reinforce Mrs Clinton’s argument that she would be the stronger opponent for Mr McCain in November, and raise fresh doubts about whether the US is ready to elect its first black president.

Occupying a swathe of the Appalachian Mountains on the threshold between the Bible Belt and the Rust Belt, West Virginia is a swing state that voted twice for George W. Bush but backed Democrats in six of the eight prior presidential elections.

No Democrat has been elected to the White House without carrying West Virginia since 1916, yet Mr Obama appears to have little chance of winning there in November. Recent opinion polls indicate that Mrs Clinton would narrowly beat Mr McCain in the state but Mr Obama would lose by nearly 20 percentage points.

West Virginia is hostile territory for Mr Obama because it has few of the African-Americans and affluent, college-educated whites who provide his strongest support. The state has the lowest college graduation rate in the US, the second lowest median household income, and one of the highest proportions of white residents, at 96 per cent.

A visit to Mingo County, a Democratic stronghold in the heart of the Appalachian coalfields, reveals the scale of Mr Obama’s challenge – not only in West Virginia but in white, working-class communities across the US. With a gun shop on its main street and churches dotted throughout the town, Williamson is the kind of community evoked by Mr Obama’s controversial comments last month about “bitter” small-town voters who “cling to guns or religion”.

“If he is the nominee, the Democrats have no chance of winning West Virginia,” said Missy Endicott, a 40- year-old school administrator. “He doesn’t understand ordinary Americans.”

Ms Endicott was among roughly 500 people who crammed into the Williamson Fire Department building on Friday to attend a rally by Bill Clinton, the former president. He told them his wife represented “people like you, in places like this”, and urged voters to turn out in record numbers on Tuesday to send a message to the “higher-type people” who were trying to force her out of the race.

Local leaders said Mr Clinton was the most important visitor to Williamson since John F. Kennedy passed through during the 1960 election campaign. Mr Kennedy’s victory in the West Virginia primary that year was a crucial step towards proving his electability as the first Catholic president. Nearly five decades later, the state appears less willing to help Mr Obama break down barriers to the White House.

None of the 22 Democrats interviewed by the Financial Times at the Clinton rally would commit themselves to voting for Mr Obama if he became the nominee, and half said they definitely would not. The depth of opposition is particularly striking considering that Mingo County is one of the most Democratic places in West Virginia, having cast about 85 per cent of its votes for the party in the 2006 midterm elections. If Mr Obama cannot win there in November, he has little chance of carrying the state.

Most people questioned said they mistrusted Mr Obama because of doubts about his patriotism and “values”, stemming from his cosmopolitan background, his exotic name and the controversy surrounding “anti-American” sermons by Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor. Several people said they believed he was a Muslim – an unfounded rumour that has circulated on the internet for months – despite the contradiction with his 20-year membership of Mr Wright’s church in Chicago. Others mentioned his refusal to wear a Stars and Stripes badge and controversial remarks by his wife, Mich­elle, who des­cribed America as “mean” and implied that she had never been proud of the US until her husband ran for president.

Conservative commentators have questioned Mr Obama’s patriotism for months and the issue is expected to be one of the Republicans’ main lines of attack if he wins the nomination. “The American people want a president who loves their country as much as they do,” said Whit Ayres, a Rep­ub­lican strategist. Obama supporters believe patriotism is being used as code to harness racist sentiment.

Josh Fry, a 24-year-old ambulance driver from Williamson, insisted he was not racist but said he would feel more comfortable with Mr McCain, the 71-year-old Vietnam war hero, in the White House. “I want someone who is a full-blooded American as president,” he said. Subscribe to *Obama Reality Check*

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#138. To: Peppa, *Racist 2008* (#0)

No Democrat has been elected to the White House without carrying West Virginia since 1916, yet Mr Obama appears to have little chance of winning there in November. Recent opinion polls indicate that Mrs Clinton would narrowly beat Mr McCain in the state but Mr Obama would lose by nearly 20 percentage points.

Obama is going to ensure 100 year war McCain wins. Way to go Obama supporters!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-12   16:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: RickyJ (#138)

A vote of support for Obummer is a vote for 100 years more of war with McKooK, by the same people that paid lip service to Ron Paul.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-12   16:17:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Cynicom (#145)

A vote of support for Obummer is a vote for 100 years more of war with McKooK, by the same people that paid lip service to Ron Paul.

I think it's quite possible that those particular folks could not stand that certain issues would be left to the states.

They have a narrow agenda, and nothing, NOTHING, else matters.

The only way to get there is via the most radical leftist, otherwise either candidate would do.

The hammer was to scream racism.

Enforcement was browbeating, silencing debate on other issues.

I'm not too inclined to believe the conversion rate was very high.

It hasn't worked for the GOP, and it won't work for these folks.

FWIW.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-12   16:24:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Peppa (#150)

When a socialists mouth is in high gear and froth is visible, that means their brain is in the idle mode.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-12   16:27:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Cynicom (#154)

"When a socialists mouth is in high gear and froth is visible, that means their brain is in the idle mode."

Actually, that comment was made in the low gear modus of a matter of fact mentioning of whom I have supported over the years.

I am not responding to FOH as he does not discuss, but only baits and harasses. It is better to ignore such people, as arguing with an idiot who relishes mud throwing is a problematic thing to do creating a situation where the casual observer can't tell who is the hater and who is the baited.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-12   16:34:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Ferret Mike (#159) (Edited)

I am not responding to FOH as he does not discuss, but only baits and harasses.

Now now Mike, calm down. I have known you too long to believe anyone gets under your skin. Hell, I remember you and that bike from what, ten years ago?????

If FOH irritates you whack him back or ignore but dont bozo. The only poster here that gets under my skin is angle, all she said was...I dont like or agree with anything you write... She crushed me right there. I try to be extra nice but so far no gain.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-12   16:43:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Cynicom (#163) (Edited)

"If FOH irritates you whack him back or ignore but dont bozo. The only poster here that gets under my skin is angle, all she said was...I dont like or agree with anything you write... She crushed me right there. I try to be extra nice by so far no gain."

I had him on bozo as a vote of disdain for his brand of baiting until the bozo count disappeared from set-up today.

But my old account I first signed up here with using my FReeper version of my real life nick name has always watched his game playing.

I always watch what people say. I have been a political activist too long not to know to that not watching all elements of a forum is a dumb thing to do.

Ferret  posted on  2008-05-12   16:51:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Ferret (#166)

I feel bad that anyone of your caliber would bozo anyone.

Anyway, I recall you and that bike photo from years ago, maybe on FR?????

At my age I cannot remember where I live but I recall the bike.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-12   16:54:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#172. To: Cynicom (#167)

I do. I was photographed by FReepers at the Lane County Federal Courthouse during a court hearing for some Klamath Water rights people.

It was linked to a thread about this issue and as the caption talked of me as a "possible Earth Liberation Front member," I as 'ferret' complained and they changed the caption to not be so slanderous.

I believe there was another bicycle picture earlier then that too that had been one of the pictures of me in the Register Guard. That one of me was in reference to a fast for Earth First! activism Tim Ream was doing at that time at the same location.

I have been in the local paper many many times, and I am clear and open about being Michael McCarthy as I am already well known locally and have long ago lost my shyness about being known exactly as myself.

Ferret  posted on  2008-05-12 17:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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