Title: Alex Jones Smacks Down a 9/11 Kool-Aid Drinker Source:
. URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMjgyzKoXy4 Published:May 12, 2008 Author:. Post Date:2008-05-12 22:12:16 by Artisan Keywords:None Views:605 Comments:40
From The Alex Jones Show, February 24, 2008. Alex takes a call from a caller who finds it incredulous that the government could stage an attack against itself. The caller tries to talk down to Alex, but Alex schools him on the basics of false flag terror. A must-watch for all 9/11 Kool-Aid drinkers and those who love to see them smacked down. For even more reasons to doubt the official story, visit Alex's sites, including:
That's a funny video, but Alex at his own conference in L.A. had Jimmy Walter, (a no planer) and Jim Fetzer (a no planer) on his panel., and has interviewed Morgan Reynolds, (a no planer) on his show probably several times.
I do understand why he now wants to disassociate with no planers though. But he did not in the past.
There is a lot of finger-pointing going on. Some of it could be COINTELPRO, but much of it relates to the informal nature of dissent. I think we have to be very careful about these accusations. Facts and rational analysis are the only friends we have.
There is a lot of finger-pointing going on. Some of it could be COINTELPRO, but much of it relates to the informal nature of dissent. I think we have to be very careful about these accusations. Facts and rational analysis are the only friends we have.
Alex has never advocated the no plane theories that I know of. But to say he never associated with the no planers, well, when Jimmy Walter was at Alex's conference in LA in June 2006 I spoke with him briefly, and he was saying he believes they were holograms. But he did not say it onstage, . Jim Fetzer , who is on the C-SPAN program as one of Alex's panelists, also did not mention the no planes theory at all, at that point..
On the vid nobody posted, alex says that the no-planers talked about credible things for a few years and then started on the no planes to discredit the movement. thats possible, or i suppose its also possible that they really could believe it.
A lot of people bash dave von kleist and his pod footage, but i still think that in plane site is one of the best 911 videos there is. the pod footage is only a small part of it. the film is not too long, its simple , shows a lot of footage of the bombs and people talking about bombs, and also has a half hour segment on OKC. Have you seen 911 IN PLANE SITE?
I've seen in Plane Sight, and I've also read some criticism. Bottom line: discussion is good. I don't believe that it's the lack of consensus about what really happened that's keeping us from using the doubts effectively in a political context.
There is one incontrovertible fact that is typically not discussed in the media: reaction to 9/11 was misdirected for the benefit of the Likud's Clean Break policy. Period.
Going after Saddam's WMD was always about defending Israel, and never, never, never was about preventing another 9/11. We'd have stopped illegal immigration if we were really serious about that.
That leaves a lot of questions, and they're all worth media attention that they're not getting by the Jewish-influenced press.
The press (and the blogosphere) should stand and fall based on the quality of its ideas. If a no planer has a point to make in public, it'll either work or it won't from a logical perspective. Law enforcement is a separate sphere.
Wasn't really deputizing you, I'm just a civilian, but to the unbiased bystander in you I would ask how long are you going to encourage idiocy as if it's dialogue when you could just say nothing and be glad someone's finally saying it's idiotic for you?
The "No-planer" stuff is implicitly all about the WTC. Was waiting for someone to suggest otherwise, though. Okay. It's back to calling them "WTC-no-planers" then, I guess. Maybe "no-planes-at-all-ers, zippy, nada" is better.
I noticed someone accusing you of being a disinfo agent right here the other day. I reacted against it for the same reason that I'm taking my current position. I don't have time or the background to fully analyze all of this stuff. Facts that I can understand are all I have to use. I work from those basics I mentioned above.
I do not want to get sucked up into some group gambit designated good-guy ploy, which is what can happen if I play favorites. This is how I like to thank my occasional (or otherwise) rhetorical supporters: with no favors. I hope you appreciate it.
The preferential poster issue is highly counter to the purpose of an open forum in a world of censorship. I would not want to censor myself because I thought that it would diminish my friendship value to others online.
I disagree with plenty of people here on a regular basis. If they can't accept that, then what they need can't be delivered via an Internet forum.
This notion has a strong basis in leaderless resistance, a notion proposed by Colonel Ulius L. Amoss in his dire predictions that our country would someday be communized by force, and how we could react against it most effectively.
I've always liked the idea of decentralized resistance.never felt the need to be a 'joiner' and in the sphere that we're discussing, leaders can be co-opted or compromised, or even worse, be flat out double agents. But I had never read or even heard about this term you mentioned- 'leaderless resistance'.
Thanks, I learned something new today.
I think that govt would not like this idea because they cant infiltrate it and steer its course. This is the way the 911 truths groups and to a lesser degree, ron paul groups operated,.
I saw one very bad example of centralized control of a ron paul meetup group, and it was disgusting,.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance History of the idea The concept of leaderless resistance was reportedly developed by Col. Ulius Louis Amoss, an alleged U.S. intelligence officer, in the early 1960s. An anti- communist, Amoss saw leaderless resistance as a backup for the possibility of a Communist seizure of the United States. The concept was revived and popularized in an essay published by the anti- government Ku Klux Klan member Louis Beam in 1983 and again in 1992. Beam advocated leaderless resistance as a technique for white nationalists to continue the struggle against the U.S. government despite an overwhelming imbalance in power and resources. In the same year the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) was formed as an eco-resistance movement.
Beam argued that conventional hierarchical pyramidal organizations are extremely dangerous for their participants, when employed in a resistance movement against government, because of the ease of disclosing the chain of command. A more workable approach would be to convince the like-minded individuals to form independent cells, without close communication between each other, but generally operating in the same direction