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Title: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter
Source: Yahoo News
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Published: May 13, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-05-13 12:14:53 by christine
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LONDON (AFP) - Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.

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The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.

The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.

In it, the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.

"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.

"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."

And he added: "As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

Previously the great scientist's comments on religion -- such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -- have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.

Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he told AFP.

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#2. To: christine (#0)

The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

Some side views of Einstein and his character.

He left Germany and went to Switzerland to avoid the draft. (Does that sound familiar for his people)

In Switzerland one of his friends and daily coffee klatch people was..Lenin... a fellow atheist.

Einsteins wife received no credit but did MOST of the math work for him.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-13   12:23:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

Einsteins wife received no credit but did MOST of the math work for him.

really?

christine  posted on  2008-05-13   12:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine, scrapper2, Cynicom (#4)

Einstein was a plagiarist. An Italian engineer named Depretto published his E = mc2 in an Italian engineering journal. Friends of Einstein saw and it and sent it to him in Switzerland where he promptly claimed it as his own. I remember posting the original article here on forum some time back.

Horse  posted on  2008-05-13   20:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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An Italian engineer named Depretto published his E = mc2 in an Italian engineering journal.

I had not read of that before.

Einstein was much of a manufactured myth.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-13 20:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Horse, christine, scrapper2 (#14)

Horse...thanks for this, I love it when I learn something new.

This about Dipretto....

"The mathematical equation that ushered in the atomic age was discovered by an unknown Italian dilettante two years before Albert Einstein used it in developing the theory of relativity, it was claimed yesterday.

Olinto De Pretto, an industrialist from Vicenza, published the equation E=mc2 in a scientific magazine, Atte, in 1903, said Umberto Bartocci, a mathematical historian.

Einstein allegedly used De Pretto's insight in a major paper published in 1905, but De Pretto was never acclaimed, said Professor Bartocci of the University of Perugia.

De Pretto had stumbled on the equation, but not the theory of relativity, while speculating about ether in the life of the universe, said Prof Bartocci. It was republished in 1904 by Veneto's Royal Science Institute, but the equation's significance was not understood.

A Swiss Italian named Michele Besso alerted Einstein to the research and in 1905 Einstein published his own work, said Prof Bartocci. It took years for his breakthrough to be grasped. When the penny finally dropped, De Pretto's contribution was overlooked while Einstein went on to become the century's most famous scientist. De Pretto died in 1921.

"De Pretto did not discover relativity but there is no doubt that he was the first to use the equation. That is hugely significant. I also believe, though it's impossible to prove, that Einstein used De Pretto's research," said Prof Bartocci, who has written a book on the subject".

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#17. To: Horse (#14)

Einstein was a plagiarist. An Italian engineer named Depretto published his E = mc2 in an Italian engineering journal. Friends of Einstein saw and it and sent it to him in Switzerland where he promptly claimed it as his own.

scoundrel!

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