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Title: Obama’s Change: More War and Premeditated Mass Murder
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=2106
Published: May 13, 2008
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2008-05-13 19:18:55 by christine
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In the video here, Barack Obama tells us he believes George Bush Senior “did an excellent job when it came to the Gulf War” and this serves as a “model for how we should be operating.” In addition to Obama’s praise for slaughter and untold suffering, the presidential candidate told his audience the first Bush administration had engaged in “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a declaration that is completely at odds with reality. In fact, the United States had long planned to attack Iraq, years before Saddam invaded Kuwait for stealing its oil by way of slant drilling and violating OPEC oil production agreements, thus undercutting the price of oil in order to destroy Iraq’s economy. In 1989, the Pentagon had drawn up plans to invade Iraq. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr., colorfully known as “Stormin’ Norman” — “Mass Murdering Norman” works better — was named Commander of the so-called U.S. Central Command, which was the renamed version of the Rapid Deployment Force, and as commander he oversaw the plan to invade Iraq. During January of 1990, massive quantities of United States weapons, equipment, and supplies were sent to Saudi Arabia in order to prepare for the war against Iraq. CIA Director William Webster, writes Francis A. Boyle, “and the CIA assisted and directed Kuwait in its actions… in demanding immediate repayment of loans Kuwait had made to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War… and in breaking off negotiations with Iraq over these disputes.” In doing this, the United States “intended to provoke Iraq into aggressive military actions against Kuwait that they knew could be used to justify U.S. military intervention into the Persian Gulf for the purpose of destroying Iraq and taking over Arab oil fields.” But if we listen to Obama, the United States was involved in sincere and “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a statement that reveals either Obama’s ignorance or disingenuousness. It is common historic knowledge that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie tricked Saddam Hussein into invading Kuwait. Glaspie “assured him that the United States considered the dispute to be a regional concern, and that it would not intervene militarily. In other words, the United States government gave Saddam Hussein what amounted to a ‘green light’ to invade Kuwait.” Saddam, of course, was an easily fooled chump, as the U.S. had played a similar trick in 1980, when the Carter administration gave a “green light” urging Saddam to attack Iran, resulting in a catastrophically tragic war — 900,000 Iranians and 300,000 Iraqis were slaughtered. Obama, as a stand-up for the likes of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, both Rockefeller operatives, does not bother to mention in his speech that Bush Senior violated the Constitution and lied to the American people in order to invade Iraq. He said the act of moving 40,000 U.S. military personnel into the Gulf was “defensive.” From the outset, Bush “deliberately misled, deceived, concealed and made false representations to the Congress to prevent its free deliberation and informed exercise of legislative power,” as Boyle explains. Moreover, Bush intentionally usurped Congressional power, ignored its authority, and failed and refused to consult with the Congress. He instituted a naval blockade of Iraq — an overt act of war, no matter who writes the history books — without approval of Congress or the neolib lapdog organization, the United Nations. He sent an additional 200,000 troops without consulting Congress or acquiring its approval. Soon enough, Bush turned these “defensive” forces into offensive forces. He “strong-armed legislation through Congress that approved enforcement of U.N. resolutions vesting absolute discretion in any nation, providing no guidelines, and requiring no reporting to the United Nations.” Bush “knew full well that he intended to destroy the armed forces and civilian infrastructure of Iraq. Those acts were undertaken to enable him to commit a Nuremberg Crime Against Peace and war crimes. This conduct violated the Constitution and Laws of the United States and especially the War Powers Clause found in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, the U.S. War Powers Act of 1973, 87 Stat. 555,” notes Boyle. “The United States is knowingly violating Article 54 of the Geneva Convention which prohibits any country from undermining ‘objects indispensable to the survival of (another country’s) civilian population,’ including drinking water installations and supplies, says Thomas Nagy, a business professor at George Washington University,” Stephen Gowans wrote in 2001. “During the Gulf War, coalition forces bombed Iraq’s eight multi-purpose dams, destroying flood control systems, irrigation, municipal and industrial water storage, and hydroelectric power. Major pumping stations were targeted, and municipal water and sewage facilities were destroyed.” But it was worse than this, far worse, according to Nagy. Nagy says that not only did the United States deliberately destroy drinking water and sanitation facilities, it knew sanctions would prevent Iraq from rebuilding, and that epidemics would ensue. One document, written soon after the bombing, warned that sanctions would prevent Iraq from importing “water treatment replacement parts and some essential chemicals” leading to “increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.” Another document lists the most likely diseases: “diarrheal diseases (particularly children); acute respiratory illnesses (colds and influenza); typhoid; hepatitis A (particularly children); measles, diphtheria, and pertussis (particularly children); meningitis, including meningococcal (particularly children); cholera (possible, but less likely.)” Then U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman estimated that 200,000 Iraqis died in the Gulf War, but many more have died since. UNICEF estimates that well over a million Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S-led sanctions regime, in place for the last decade. Some 500,000 children have died, and an estimated 4,000 die from various preventable, sanctions-related diseases, every month, says the U.N. agency. Obama does not mention this tremendous and criminal loss of life. Instead, he concentrates on how much the invasion and medieval siege of Iraq cost. “You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.” And then he takes the second Bush administration to task for spending $600 billion for the second invasion and occupation of Iraq, actually phase two of the original illegal and immoral attack. Not a single word on the million plus people who have so far lost their lives. Disgustingly, when Obama declares “that’s the kind of foreign policy I want to pursue,” the audience applauds. But then, as usual, the people are easily tricked, just like Saddam Hussein, and are bedazzled by cheap slogans and snake oil salesmen and enthusiastically offer up their plaudits. Dictators and tyrants have enjoyed this sort of support for centuries. If selected, Obama will usher in the next round of imperialistic mass murder under the Kissinger-Brzezinski banner, that is to say the bloody oriflamme of the neolibs. Naturally, the hoodwinked masses will see this as “change,” as the in-your-face neocons will be obliged to step aside, that is to say retire to their “think-tanks,” teaching positions, and memoirs. Of course, none of these criminals actually step aside, they simply step out of the public spotlight and continue their work in the shadows. It is not a mistake the neolib and neocon organizations are interlocking. It’s a shell game and there really is not much disagreement at the top.
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#1. To: All, *Obama Reality Check*, *Obama 2008* (#0)
And one does not need to be a rocket scientist to identify the common- denominator-players in both groups and their priority re: US foreign policy.
that's what one would think. ;)
Waiting for the apologists to arrive and say that more war is a good idea or that Obama has been "misunderstood"....
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
your thoughts?
I take it back about him being an empty suit. After reading and watching this, he's inept and dangerous. He doesn't make it to the throne.
Oh come on now...be nice... That is just their way of defending the indefensible. They can't help it, it's the only tactic they have.
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I am being nice. Its going to be one or the other. All I want to know is which one it is and if my assessment is correct. I am simply politely waiting for confirmation or non-confirmation.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
This is the part that sickens me most. Further insult, is his lack of concern on adding more weight to the yoke chained on Americans. Genocide on your dime. And the Ophiles see nothing.
God is always good!
*crickets*
He forgot to add that $20 billion was printed by the Fed, borrowed by the tax payers, and as yet unpaid for. Asshat applies.
Watched the Video. Thoughts on it: - The Iraq war was "cheap" because the US got in and out and Bush Sr. nixed the idea of nation building. Iraq Round 1 vs Iraq round 2 is like Comparing Grenada to Vietnam. - I see Obama belongs to the 'if everyone agrees, then bombing people is okay' crowd of diplomacy. The killing is fine because we brought some people from the EU along for the ride. - Ah, yes. Our glorious allies. I still have a poster from Time magazine that had a force breakdown for the first Gulf War. If the US had stayed out of it Iraqi tanks would still be sitting in Kuwait. I think Obama overstates their effectiveness and contrabution. I said it before and I'll say it again. Obama is to War with Iran as Nixon was to Relations with China. Any other POTUS trying it would be torn apart by the MSM, but get the right person in there and it's full speed ahead.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me. "If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
My thoughts are: This excerpt ripped from its original context doesn't tell us much, but I can guess what Obama was getting at: 1) Spookdaddy "did an excellent job" by not invading and taking over Iraq. That is not to endorse the entirety of his policy. 2) Spookdaddy looks like a "model" of restraint only when contrasted with his son's total lack thereof. I seriously doubt that Obama (as the author pretends) endorsed all aspects of Spookdaddy's Iraq subterfuge.
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It'd be funny if it weren't so sad and swimming in our moth eaten 'change' purse. None of these 3 give a rip about cost. Human or otherwise.
If you haven't done so already, get a copy of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and read it carefully. It is exceptionally well written and will explain much. The Paul Campaign took Alinsky's advice quite seriously. "Don't just complain about the delegates. Be the delegates!" was Alinsky's advice in 1968 after the convention. In 1972, the radicals took that advice and gave the country McGovern. The Paul campaign took that advice to heart and sent supporters off to become the GOP delegates. Today, the GOP has to break, bend, and rewrite the rules to keep Paul supporters from becoming the delegates to the National Convention. This manual for organizing works. For something written nearly 40 years ago, it is just as prescient today as it was back then and is required reading for anyone who wants to change the system. It is also required reading for anyone who wants to understand the Obama Campaign as it works today. It also explains why the vast majority of protests are ignored and why most protesters are written off as being fruitcakes. Alinsky's #1 rule in the preface is this: Do not burn the flag.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
In the late 90's Brzenzinski gave his plan for how the US should dominate the world. Bush has followed it to a T. Interesting - Democrat plan - Republican execution.
that's very interesting.
Bush has followed it to a T. ok, don't believe what you actually hear obama say there. delude. delude. ;)
POJ, this is a keeper!
More like twist, turn, squirm and spin.
I've been trying to figure things out for a while. Why would Paul supporters switch to Obama? Why is the Paul campaign slogging on even when the numbers show it is over? It all came down to both campaigns operating from the same manual. Literally. One just had better execution than the other. It hit me not too long ago so I started reading the book. After the first five pages it all clicked into place. Obama spent four years learning how to put Alinsky's stuff into practice as a community organizer. Look at him today. From zero to hero through organization and tactics he learned early on his career. Obama outdid the Clintons at every turn. This is the manual he got the basics from. It is required reading at this point for 2012.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
And here we go again..............
Fact Sheets of Iran-US Standoff: Twenty Reasons against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran
POJ, this is a keeper! Out of the three of them, Obama is the one who could "sell" it the best. McCain would rightly be laughed off the stage if he tried to sell "9/11 was all Iran's fault" or some crap. Hillary would also be rightly be painted as a neo-con wanna-be trying to fit in with the boys if she wanted to let loose with the cruise missles. But Saint Obama who can do no wrong, he'd go to war with Iran for all the 'right' reason. After a long period of reflection and smearing Iran on the world stage of course. Unlike the "R" cowboys who steal oil, Obama will be dropping the bombs in the name of peace and love. And that make it okay in some peoples' books. I'd like to think that Obama would be too smart to start such stupidty, but I have little faith in US leadership these days. He also thinks that Iran is one of the greatest threats to world peace. His AIPAC and CFR ramblings make me rather nervious.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me. "If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
I don't care who ya' are, that's funny right there!
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Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Obama, as a stand-up for the likes of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, both Rockefeller operatives
This is the part that sickens me most. Further insult, is his lack of concern on adding more weight to the yoke chained on Americans. Genocide on your dime. And the Ophiles see nothing. The ObamaCONs are complete and utter frauds...
The Desert Storm Glock This was a 1991 series of 1000 Glock 17s which had special engraving on it. A list of names of all the coalition countries is engraved down the top of the slide; "Operation Desert Storm/January 16-February 27, 1991" is engraved on the right side. On the left side is "New World Order/Commemorative". The first 15 Desert Storm Glocks were special presentation models and had the special "bright black" finish. The special engraving on these was also slightly altered from the standard. These pistols were supposed to go to: UD000US: George Bush, Commander-in-Chief Part of the special engraving was these men's names and ranks engraved on the slide. In addition all of these special presentations along with the next 35 Desert Storm Glocks came with the Wooden Display case made specially for the Desert Storm Glocks. The remaining 950 Desert Storm Commemoratives came in the standard Glock Box, but with desert camoflage labels. Bush has followed it to a T. Interesting - Democrat plan - Republican execution. Although these ObamaCONs are dosed up on Kool Aid and unreachable, others lurking are paying close attention and they're getting the real picture...
They never make any sense, ever.
your opinions?
Is this the real arator? I have to tell you I am beyond stunned by your endorsement and campaigning for Obaba. This last answer was so convoluted as to defy reason. I have been one of your biggest fans ever since the fallulah uproar over at lp. Geez...
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Bend, Oregon is an interesting place, it is one of the largest growing cities in Oregon and consists of many extremely wealthy people, many of whom are living in their second or third home. When I would take the bus to go to drill with my Special Forces Guard unit in Utah from here in Eugene, the bus driver would point out Tom Selleck's and many other movers and shaker's coveted second home in the part of Oregon with crisp mountain air and the best water in the continental United States. It sounds like a very savvy stump speech for Bend, I don't think it would play as well in Eugene with is light years away politically then the Willamette Valley. Remember I said Southwestern and Eastern Oregon are much more Conservative? Bend is conservative on steroids, but it is a bipolar conservative with an air of Dr. Jekyll Hollywood refugees and Mr. Hyde ultra conservative fundie cowboys. I lived there a while and worked at Century Cycles one summer during my bicycle racing years. I lived right across the street from the Four Square Gospel Church, a Hagee like place and got into fist fights with cowboys who didn't like tight panted - to them - 'faggy' bicyclists' and would jump out of their pick ups to do this at intersections. (That never stopped me from flipping them the bird in traffic however. I am skilled at fighting and very very hard headed about expressing myself.) But to sum up my point here, there is Central Oregon pandering going on here, and I don't agree that Poppy's war was a justifiable one.
Nothing but gas...
Don't make me get out the nekkid Twister pic...
If you understand their language, they do. They know what's up and they know what they've bought. They know... The NWO souvenir pistol, Desert Storm (Gulf War I)
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#2. To: christine (#0)
It is not a mistake the neolib and neocon organizations are interlocking.
#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)
And one does not need to be a rocket scientist to identify the common- denominator-players in both groups and their priority re: US foreign policy.
#4. To: christine (#1)
#5. To: Arator (#0)
#6. To: scrapper2 (#2)
And one does not need to be a rocket scientist to identify the common- denominator-players in both groups and their priority re: US foreign policy.
#7. To: christine (#1)
#8. To: mirage, All (#4)
Waiting for the apologists to arrive and say that more war is a good idea or that Obama has been "misunderstood"....
#9. To: PSUSA (#8)
#10. To: christine (#0)
“You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.” And then he takes the second Bush administration to task for spending $600 billion for the second invasion and occupation of Iraq, actually phase two of the original illegal and immoral attack. Not a single word on the million plus people who have so far lost their lives. Disgustingly, when Obama declares “that’s the kind of foreign policy I want to pursue,” the audience applauds.
#11. To: Jethro Tull, all (#7)
#12. To: mirage (#9)
#13. To: Peppa (#10)
“You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.”
#14. To: christine (#0)
#15. To: christine (#5)
(Edited)
In the video here, Barack Obama tells us he believes George Bush Senior “did an excellent job when it came to the Gulf War” and this serves as a “model for how we should be operating.”
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
He forgot to add that $20 billion was printed by the Fed, borrowed by the tax payers, and as yet unpaid for. Asshat applies.
#17. To: christine (#12)
(Edited)
#18. To: Arator (#15)
#19. To: mirage, CadetD, ratcat, justlurking (#17)
The Paul Campaign took Alinsky's advice quite seriously. "Don't just complain about the delegates. Be the delegates!" was Alinsky's advice in 1968. In 1972, the radicals took that advice and gave the country McGovern. The Paul campaign took that advice to heart and sent supporters off to become the GOP delegates. Today, the GOP has to break, bend, and rewrite the rules to keep Paul supporters from becoming the delegates to the National Convention.
#20. To: Peppa (#18)
In the late 90's Brzenzinski gave his plan for how the US should dominate the world.
#21. To: Arator (#15)
#22. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#14)
I said it before and I'll say it again. Obama is to War with Iran as Nixon was to Relations with China. Any other POTUS trying it would be torn apart by the MSM, but get the right person in there and it's full speed ahead.
#23. To: christine (#21)
#24. To: christine (#19)
that's very interesting.
#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#20)
#26. To: christine (#0)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
I said it before and I'll say it again. Obama is to War with Iran as Nixon was to Relations with China. Any other POTUS trying it would be torn apart by the MSM, but get the right person in there and it's full speed ahead.
#28. To: RickyJ (#11)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#29. To: christine (#21)
ok, don't believe what you actually hear obama say there. delude. delude. ;)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#30. To: scrapper2, christine (#2)
It is not a mistake the neolib and neocon organizations are interlocking.
#31. To: Peppa (#10)
“You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.” And then he takes the second Bush administration to task for spending $600 billion for the second invasion and occupation of Iraq, actually phase two of the original illegal and immoral attack. Not a single word on the million plus people who have so far lost their lives. Disgustingly, when Obama declares “that’s the kind of foreign policy I want to pursue,” the audience applauds.
#32. To: Pissed Off Janitor, ALL (#14)
pics:The NWO souvenir pistol, Desert Storm (Gulf War I) Glock commemorative gun,who got it
The Desert Storm (Gulf War I) Glock commemorative gun, given to NWO supporters...
Desert Storm Glock: A 1991 model Glock 17 pistol engraved on the right side with "Operation Desert Storm" and on the left side with "New World Order".
BUSH SENIOR WAS GIVEN FIRST GLOCK OF THE ISSUE, A LIST OF WHO GOT THEM IS BELOW. In the same year G. H. W. Bush's Speech to Congress, September 11, 1991, discusses his invasion of Iraq under the first United Nations 'authorization' for pre-emptive war:
"...what is at stake, is more [pauses, looks dismissive of this idea] than one small country. [Smiles.] It is a big idea. A new world order. Where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind: peace, and security, freedom, and the rule of law.....out of these troubled times, our fifth objective, the new world order, can emerge....Now we can see a new world coming into view, a world in which there is a very real prospect of a new world order...."
UD001US: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf III (Commander-in-Chief, CentCom)
UD002US: James Baker III (Secy of State)
UD003US: Gen. Colin Powell (Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff)
UD004US: Dick Cheney (Secy of Defense)
UD005US: Brent Scowcroft (National Security Advisor)
UD006US: Lt. Gen. Thomas Kelly
UD007US: Lt. Gen. Chuck Horner (Commander, Air Forces, CentCom)
UD008US: Maj. Gen. Robert B Johnston (Chief-of-Staff, CentCom)
UD009US: Lt. Gen. Calvin Waller (Dpty Commander-in-Chief, CentCom)
UD010US: Lt. Gen. Walter Boomer (Commander, I MEF)
UD011US: Vice Adm. Stanley Arthur (Commander, Naval Forces, CentCom)
UD012US: Maj. Gen. William "Gus" Pagonis (Chief of Logistics, CentCom)
UD013US: Brig. Gen. Richard Neal (Operations Ofcr., CentCom)
#33. To: Arator (#15)
This excerpt ripped from its original context doesn't tell us much, but I can guess what Obama was getting at:
#34. To: Peppa (#18)
In the late 90's Brzenzinski gave his plan for how the US should dominate the world.
#35. To: FOH (#31)
The ObamaCONs are complete and utter frauds...
#36. To: ghostdogtxn, Ferret Mike (#0)
#37. To: Arator (#15)
(Edited)
#38. To: christine (#36)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#39. To: Christine, ferret mike (#36)
your opinions?
#40. To: Cynicom (#23)
More like twist, turn, squirm and spin.
#41. To: Peppa (#35)
They never make any sense, ever.
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