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Title: West Virginia Primary May 13, 2008
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URL Source: http://news.aol.com/
Published: May 13, 2008
Author: AOL
Post Date: 2008-05-13 19:35:48 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: West Virginia, Republican Primary, 2008 Election
Views: 2600
Comments: 197
West Virginia Republican Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 30 7:28pm EST County Results --- 1% Reporting 1 Huckabee 567 52% 2 Romney 521 47% 3 McCain 12 1% 4 Giulliani 0 5 Ron Paul 0
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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
That is the result from the caucuses - the actual vote from today has yet to be tallied.
This is what they are showing on their web site. Today's results should be in soon.
AOL has the wrong results. CNN and FauxNews both have clean slates up. "Hillary Clinton wins with 0% of the vote tallied!"
I SAW THAT! And the panel yappers are 'looking beyond WV'.. The electoral votes are being divided now based on projected win %, to illustrate Hillary's futile efforts. There's 3 weeks to go till the convention cage fight, but the pressure is on to make it easy on the super D's. Everytime I watch the breakdown state by state, I can't figure out why Puerto Rico has more weight than an actual State in the union. Poor Montana.... eating Puerto Rican dust.
From Fox... Exiting polling shows 68% HRC to 32% BHO.
West Virginia Republican Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 30 County Results --- 4% Reporting 1 McCain 5,623 76% 2 Huckabee 677 9% 3 Ron Paul 330 4% West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 4% Reporting 1 Clinton 14,982 59% 2 Obama 8,997 35%
MSM is either ignoring WV or at best downplaying it.
Reality check. WV is 2/3 Demo and yet they voted for Dumbo W, twice in a row and for Bubba before Dumbo. Now, the Demos are picking Hilly in large numbers. Her core constituency in the country seems to be the Demos who voted for Dumbo twice before and for Bubba twice before that. Hillary supporters: those who supported Dumbo and Bubba.
Where West Virginia goes, the nation dare not follow.
Who was the last D to lose the WV primary, and then go on to win the presidency?
Woodrow Wilson in 1916. That is, he won the presidency in the general without WV. Let me check on primaries (which haven't been around all that long). A. George McGovern in 1972.
It is one thing to despise a certain culture but quite obscene when we have people here that say they were hill billies but despise their own heritage. That is the ultimate elitism. Then to hang the "lack" of education on them as another reason to despise is the ultimate sickness of our society.
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster!
The smart, college educated ones are the same ones that gave us Bush, twice.
If we could roll back the clock 8 years, it would all be perfect./s ;)
Fox... Clinton 72 per cent.. Obama 28 per cent
Clinton 72 per cent.. Obama 28 per cent Another war will shore up those results.
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 82% Reporting 1 Clinton 200,754 67% 2 Obama 78,876 26%
Delegates: 39 County Results --- 82% Reporting 1 Clinton 200,754 67% 2 Obama 78,876 26% Thanks TT! Do the vote numbers look low to anyone? I believe someone said there are 1.8 M people in WV. I wonder how many total registered voters there are, and what the turnout number is.
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question.
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question. Whoaaaaaaa!! I saw a little pie chart last nite illustrating the % dem voters that would not vote HIll or BHO, if their candidate lost. I wish I could remember the breakout, but the numbers have increased... I believe it was something 70+% would not vote BHO, and 50+% would not vote Hilly. If she peeled off to go Indy where would the money come from? Even if she did do this, it's not a given that her entire base would follow. However, it could probably follow that such an event would ensure a McCain win. Hilly get's a special prize then from McCain. Hmmmmmmmmm........
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question. Whoaaaaaaa!! I saw a little pie chart last nite illustrating the % dem voters that would not vote HIll or BHO, if their candidate lost. I wish I could remember the breakout, but the numbers have increased... I believe it was something 70+% would not vote BHO, and 50+% would not vote Hilly. If she peeled off to go Indy where would the money come from? Even if she did do this, it's not a given that her entire base would follow. However, it could probably follow that such an event would ensure a McCain win. Hilly get's a special prize then from McCain. Hmmmmmmmmm........ I wonder if Ruby Ghouliani even really had cancer during his Senate run against Hiltery...the race the womanoid won by default in essence.
The picture most commonly found above the desks of McCain staffers as they work for the chimp's third term.
Oh gee, look what the arrested development Corn Flake Liar did...took me off of filter. Must be a slow day.
Do a 'from' search for my 'Ferret' account. I made some posts on it this week.
I made some posts on it this week. Here, suck on this: In the video here, Barack Obama tells us he believes George Bush Senior “did an excellent job when it came to the Gulf War” and this serves as a “model for how we should be operating.” In addition to Obama’s praise for slaughter and untold suffering, the presidential candidate told his audience the first Bush administration had engaged in “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a declaration that is completely at odds with reality. In fact, the United States had long planned to attack Iraq, years before Saddam invaded Kuwait for stealing its oil by way of slant drilling and violating OPEC oil production agreements, thus undercutting the price of oil in order to destroy Iraq’s economy. In 1989, the Pentagon had drawn up plans to invade Iraq. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr., colorfully known as “Stormin’ Norman” — “Mass Murdering Norman” works better — was named Commander of the so-called U.S. Central Command, which was the renamed version of the Rapid Deployment Force, and as commander he oversaw the plan to invade Iraq. During January of 1990, massive quantities of United States weapons, equipment, and supplies were sent to Saudi Arabia in order to prepare for the war against Iraq. CIA Director William Webster, writes Francis A. Boyle, “and the CIA assisted and directed Kuwait in its actions… in demanding immediate repayment of loans Kuwait had made to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War… and in breaking off negotiations with Iraq over these disputes.” In doing this, the United States “intended to provoke Iraq into aggressive military actions against Kuwait that they knew could be used to justify U.S. military intervention into the Persian Gulf for the purpose of destroying Iraq and taking over Arab oil fields.” But if we listen to Obama, the United States was involved in sincere and “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a statement that reveals either Obama’s ignorance or disingenuousness. It is common historic knowledge that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie tricked Saddam Hussein into invading Kuwait. Glaspie “assured him that the United States considered the dispute to be a regional concern, and that it would not intervene militarily. In other words, the United States government gave Saddam Hussein what amounted to a ‘green light’ to invade Kuwait.” Saddam, of course, was an easily fooled chump, as the U.S. had played a similar trick in 1980, when the Carter administration gave a “green light” urging Saddam to attack Iran, resulting in a catastrophically tragic war — 900,000 Iranians and 300,000 Iraqis were slaughtered. Obama, as a stand-up for the likes of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, both Rockefeller operatives, does not bother to mention in his speech that Bush Senior violated the Constitution and lied to the American people in order to invade Iraq. He said the act of moving 40,000 U.S. military personnel into the Gulf was “defensive.” From the outset, Bush “deliberately misled, deceived, concealed and made false representations to the Congress to prevent its free deliberation and informed exercise of legislative power,” as Boyle explains. Moreover, Bush intentionally usurped Congressional power, ignored its authority, and failed and refused to consult with the Congress. He instituted a naval blockade of Iraq — an overt act of war, no matter who writes the history books — without approval of Congress or the neolib lapdog organization, the United Nations. He sent an additional 200,000 troops without consulting Congress or acquiring its approval. Soon enough, Bush turned these “defensive” forces into offensive forces. He “strong-armed legislation through Congress that approved enforcement of U.N. resolutions vesting absolute discretion in any nation, providing no guidelines, and requiring no reporting to the United Nations.” Bush “knew full well that he intended to destroy the armed forces and civilian infrastructure of Iraq. Those acts were undertaken to enable him to commit a Nuremberg Crime Against Peace and war crimes. This conduct violated the Constitution and Laws of the United States and especially the War Powers Clause found in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, the U.S. War Powers Act of 1973, 87 Stat. 555,” notes Boyle. “The United States is knowingly violating Article 54 of the Geneva Convention which prohibits any country from undermining ‘objects indispensable to the survival of (another country’s) civilian population,’ including drinking water installations and supplies, says Thomas Nagy, a business professor at George Washington University,” Stephen Gowans wrote in 2001. “During the Gulf War, coalition forces bombed Iraq’s eight multi-purpose dams, destroying flood control systems, irrigation, municipal and industrial water storage, and hydroelectric power. Major pumping stations were targeted, and municipal water and sewage facilities were destroyed.” But it was worse than this, far worse, according to Nagy. Nagy says that not only did the United States deliberately destroy drinking water and sanitation facilities, it knew sanctions would prevent Iraq from rebuilding, and that epidemics would ensue. One document, written soon after the bombing, warned that sanctions would prevent Iraq from importing “water treatment replacement parts and some essential chemicals” leading to “increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.” Another document lists the most likely diseases: “diarrheal diseases (particularly children); acute respiratory illnesses (colds and influenza); typhoid; hepatitis A (particularly children); measles, diphtheria, and pertussis (particularly children); meningitis, including meningococcal (particularly children); cholera (possible, but less likely.)” Then U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman estimated that 200,000 Iraqis died in the Gulf War, but many more have died since. UNICEF estimates that well over a million Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S-led sanctions regime, in place for the last decade. Some 500,000 children have died, and an estimated 4,000 die from various preventable, sanctions-related diseases, every month, says the U.N. agency. Obama does not mention this tremendous and criminal loss of life. Instead, he concentrates on how much the invasion and medieval siege of Iraq cost. “You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.” And then he takes the second Bush administration to task for spending $600 billion for the second invasion and occupation of Iraq, actually phase two of the original illegal and immoral attack. Not a single word on the million plus people who have so far lost their lives. Disgustingly, when Obama declares “that’s the kind of foreign policy I want to pursue,” the audience applauds. But then, as usual, the people are easily tricked, just like Saddam Hussein, and are bedazzled by cheap slogans and snake oil salesmen and enthusiastically offer up their plaudits. Dictators and tyrants have enjoyed this sort of support for centuries. If selected, Obama will usher in the next round of imperialistic mass murder under the Kissinger-Brzezinski banner, that is to say the bloody oriflamme of the neolibs. Naturally, the hoodwinked masses will see this as “change,” as the in-your-face neocons will be obliged to step aside, that is to say retire to their “think-tanks,” teaching positions, and memoirs. Of course, none of these criminals actually step aside, they simply step out of the public spotlight and continue their work in the shadows. It is not a mistake the neolib and neocon organizations are interlocking. It’s a shell game and there really is not much disagreement at the top.
I don't object to posting to you because of your views, you are welcome to them. But your very neocon ugliness and lack of couth which makes you think of a little politesse between adversaries in an open forum as nothing more then weakness that should be avoided at all costs means I still have little use for exchanging posts with you. You need to lighten up. You play nice and don't make it personal I will always answer. You don't then I have no use for doing so. I can tell you are an experienced interlocutor, well so am I. You are not going to knock me out of the ring here, and I am not going to influence how long you post here either. Do what you want to do, but always be aware I can indeed get angry, but I never sweat whenever engaged in rhetorical banter with folks like you. Cheers.
#196. To: FOH (#191)
As Reagan would say, "There you go again." I was in the U.S. Army nine years. I have heard that too many times to count. I have heard, "Blood and guts makes the grass grow green and napalm sticks to kids" talk a large part of my life; so that sort of "BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" is lost on me. I have seen all this and more long before now, so all you prove here is that you have no point at all except the promotion of a very fascist in tone mindset of no quarter for your political adversary. If that's your choice, that is fine with me. Because as I said, I just will ignore the process of answering you.
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#3. To: mirage (#1)
That is the result from the caucuses - the actual vote from today has yet to be tallied.
#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#3)
#7. To: mirage (#4)
"Hillary Clinton wins with 0% of the vote tallied!"
#8. To: Peppa (#7)
There's 3 weeks to go till the convention cage fight
#9. To: mirage (#8)
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
Exiting polling shows 68% HRC to 32% BHO.
#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
#19. To: Cynicom (#11)
MSM is either ignoring WV or at best downplaying it.
Obama supporters: everyone else.
#49. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#19)
WV is 2/3 Demo and yet they voted for Dumbo W, twice in a row and for Bubba before Dumbo.
#65. To: Arator (#49)
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
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Who was the last D to lose the WV primary, and then go on to win the presidency?
#81. To: Arator (#70)
#91. To: christine (#81)
#99. To: Cynicom (#91)
Then to hang the "lack" of education on them as another reason to despise is the ultimate sickness of our society.
#110. To: Peppa (#99)
(Edited)
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster!
#114. To: justlurking (#110)
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster! The smart, college educated ones are the same ones that gave us Bush, twice.
#116. To: Peppa, christine, jethro tull (#114)
#121. To: Cynicom (#116)
Fox...
#131. To: Peppa (#121)
#136. To: TwentyTwelve (#131)
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08
#146. To: Peppa, FOH (#136)
#151. To: TwentyTwelve (#146)
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out
#173. To: Peppa, TwentyTwelve (#151)
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out
#176. To: FOH (#173)
#178. To: Ferret Mike (#176)
#184. To: FOH (#178)
#186. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
Do a 'from' search for my 'Ferret' account.
#190. To: FOH (#186)
#191. To: Ferret Mike (#190)
KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY
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