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Title: West Virginia Primary May 13, 2008
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Published: May 13, 2008
Author: AOL
Post Date: 2008-05-13 19:35:48 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: West Virginia, Republican Primary, 2008 Election
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West Virginia Republican Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 30 7:28pm EST County Results --- 1% Reporting 1 Huckabee 567 52% 2 Romney 521 47% 3 McCain 12 1% 4 Giulliani 0 5 Ron Paul 0
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That is the result from the caucuses - the actual vote from today has yet to be tallied.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
At least 2 to 1
This is what they are showing on their web site. Today's results should be in soon.
AOL has the wrong results. CNN and FauxNews both have clean slates up. "Hillary Clinton wins with 0% of the vote tallied!"
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
West Virginia Republican Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 30 County Results --- 2% Reporting 1 McCain 1,331 78% 2 Huckabee 141 8% 3 Ron Paul 51 3% West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 2% Reporting 1 Clinton 4,980 62% 2 Obama 2,473 31%
I SAW THAT! And the panel yappers are 'looking beyond WV'.. The electoral votes are being divided now based on projected win %, to illustrate Hillary's futile efforts. There's 3 weeks to go till the convention cage fight, but the pressure is on to make it easy on the super D's. Everytime I watch the breakdown state by state, I can't figure out why Puerto Rico has more weight than an actual State in the union. Poor Montana.... eating Puerto Rican dust.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
From Fox... Exiting polling shows 68% HRC to 32% BHO.
West Virginia Republican Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 30 County Results --- 4% Reporting 1 McCain 5,623 76% 2 Huckabee 677 9% 3 Ron Paul 330 4% West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 4% Reporting 1 Clinton 14,982 59% 2 Obama 8,997 35%
MSM is either ignoring WV or at best downplaying it.
Damn uneducated racist white rednecks....they doan' git how ta vote proper!
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Diebold can cure them.
God is always good!
Nebraska results - 1% reporting Hillary Clinton - 55% - 4065 votes Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Good Lord...
Pretty much guarantees President McCain, doesn't it? Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Anyone listening to H's speech? She's not bowing out like the talking heads had hoped. And a hush has fallen over the Obummerites.....
It does....... how much more can they do to blow up the party. As for McCain, ditto. Both parties have been playing with the rules, and it's leading somewhere.
Reality check. WV is 2/3 Demo and yet they voted for Dumbo W, twice in a row and for Bubba before Dumbo. Now, the Demos are picking Hilly in large numbers. Her core constituency in the country seems to be the Demos who voted for Dumbo twice before and for Bubba twice before that. Hillary supporters: those who supported Dumbo and Bubba. Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
She either wins now or she never wins. She knows in 2012 she will be too old. Now or never for Hillary.
God is always good!
WV is a non event to MSM. Now is'nt that odd.
I can't say that I 'listened' to her speech. What did she say? Did she say that she was going to win the nomination? How?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Count this independent out of that category, please.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
She's not going to get any more tolerable that's for sure.
And... it's breaking your heart, isn't it? By the way, you predicted that Obama will drop out by the end of this month. And you advised that I watched and learn. So, I'm watching. What am I about to learn? That you can't properly interpret signals that reach you from 'reality'?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Now is'nt that odd. Matthews was agitated this morning as they had not quite decided how to spin the Hilly win. I guess ignoring it was the best they could come up with.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Count this independent out of that category, please. The context is the Demo primaries, of course.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Thank you for the clarification.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Here's what she's doing and why you as an O should be concerned. She's staying in until the end. Why is this important? Because with each victory she is exposing Os soft political under belly; the dude isn't receiving the votes of middle class, HARD working whites (read small town, gun toting, rubes). Unless he can attract her base, McKooK is a winner.
Currently Clinton 70 to 30 for Obummer.
Aristeides, arete, vast, red, ghost, robin and the rest of "robins ruffians" must be home whining and sniveling in their beer. How dare those racist hill billies reject their black savior.
They're only here to commit the crimes Americans refuse to do.
I understand that Clinton has said if Obummer gets more than ten votes she will demand a recount. Stupid hill billies anyway. Obummer will talk to the bros in the hood bout them.
I just took a peek. robin is debating robin about our Iraqi exit strategy. robin is the clear winner at the moment.
Thanks for the link, 20-12. FAIR has quality stuff.
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robin is ahead by a white guilty nose??????
Source: Huckabee Tops McCain VP List (05/13/08) Source: Huckabee Tops McCain VP List Tuesday, May 13, 2008 Former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is at the top of the list of John McCain’s possible running mates, according to a top McCain fundraiser with ties to his inner circle...............
Look, there's reality and there's wishes. Unless you subscribe to Hillary's new math, she is NOT going to get the Demo nomination. If Jesus came down to campaign for her she still would not win the Demo nomination. So, if your question is: will Obama beat McCain. My first reaction is "of course he will", mainly because just about everyone is sick and tired of Bush, Neocons, wars and all the BS we had since 2000. We're in the same situation we were in 1999, after 8 years of Bubba and Bubbette. If a dumbass like W beat Gore, mainly because Gore was viewed as Clinton 3 then a normal, intelligent guy like Obama would surely beat a senile, slightly more insane than W, W3. And, if your heart is bleeding for WV, I remind you again: WV is 2 thirds Demo and, yet, they picked W. Twice. These are the people who vote for Bubbette. The ones who supported Bubba and W.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
They are probably burning an effigy of WV. Now Obama is down to 56 states. ;)
And as expected, every article I am reading is essentially saying she won because the white vote she got was from a bunch a racists. I can't wait for my turn next Tuesday.
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In small print..Obama is garnering 98 per cent of the enlightened black voters wanting change.
ROFL!
Name 2 such articles.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Exactly
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Where West Virginia goes, the nation dare not follow.
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LOL!!
That is not even a rational statement. Try it again.
That would be like burning an effigy twice.
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Boob overload! WaRnInG!!
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 56% Reporting 1 Clinton 132,148 65% 2 Obama 55,579 28%
All the O'Piles are discussing their hair loss tonite because there is nothing of interest in the news...
I'll never understand democrat math.
Please stop reporting such horrible news, the O'Piles will be in hysterics and be in the ER.
LOL!! I did hear there was weather everywhere..
You're talking to me of wishes, when your candidate is about HOPE and CHANGE? Please...... Yes, he's on target to win barring a lightening strike, however, my proposition stands. The longer she stays in the more vulnerability she exposes O to. Now, a reasonable person would ask "why"? I've put forward the notion that, since she's a Clinton, just maybe she wants McKooK to win, then be in a position to dump him over the ledge in '12. If O wins, her presidential aspirations are all but over. Age isn't her friend. As far as WV voting for Bush, what does that have to do with a D primary?
They're warming up for the KY primary next Tues :P
County Results --- 56% Reporting 1 Clinton 132,148 65% 2 Obama 55,579 28% Well well.. a little better than 2 to 1.. No Bucks 2, Starbucks 1. Do college towns study economics at ALL?
And, racially motivated voting appears to be running higher than usual, http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4846784&page=1 Racial attitudes also came into play, and favorably for Clinton. About one in five whites said race influenced their choice of a candidate, one of the highest proportions who have said so in states that have voted thus far. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5giZDjUrVk9p4HpVouqLhFbdtXTYAD90L3OJ80
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Who was the last D to lose the WV primary, and then go on to win the presidency?
You mean they are going to allow those bitter small town hill billies to vote????? WV was bad but letting them vote in KY is asking too much from a black slick from chicago that is living on food stamps and got a free ride thru school.
WV's got coal fires or industrial smelters burning somewhere all the time. Hence, its effigy (if it is a true likeness) is already lit up. There's no need to set fire to what is already burning.
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LOL!! I wonder what the O strategy team will come up with now? Browbeating is a winner.. I say, step it up!
Woodrow Wilson in 1916. That is, he won the presidency in the general without WV. Let me check on primaries (which haven't been around all that long). A. George McGovern in 1972.
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Amazing examples of reverse racism abound. Nora O'Donnell all but said the folks in WV are undereducated whites and simply aren't O's base. Well.......eff him/her and the horses they rode in on. Do him right down there in KY next week :)
:)
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I'm curious, what was the Black vote for Obama? I've noticed the media stresses the 'educated' white vote v the uneducated whites. I've not seen too much analysis in other demographics.
Clinton cruises to easy win in West Virginia
Do the math for me bro. I'm a small town white guy :)
They do not do exit polls for black voters, waste of time. hehehehehe
You are a better person than I am to watch her. I wrote off MSNBC about 6 months ago, Olbermann too. And you know what a fan of his I was. Not only is a racial divide going on, but now the media is trying to divide by education. Undereducated is highlighted in articles now, almost as much as race. I know college grads and I know high school grads. Some high school grads have a hell ofalot more smarts than the *educated* ones.
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Exit polls showed Obama picked up more than a quarter of the white vote in West Virginia, which has a small black population. Two of every 10 white voters said race was a factor in their vote, and only a third of those said they would support Obama against McCain. About half of West Virginia voters said they believed the Illinois senator shared the views of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his controversial former pastor.
Let me say it again: 2/3 of WV's registered voters are Demos so W must have got close to half of the Demos. How many of the Demos who voted for Bush you think picked Obama today?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ohhhhhhhhh. When O told folks that he needed to make people believe in change though it would not be evident in their daily lives, I'm thinking might have been a real stink bomb. Petty little selfish people.
Obama did not appear in public after the voting ended in West Virginia, but a campaign spokeswoman said he left Clinton a congratulatory message on her mobile phone. That was nice.
Clinton: 'I am more determined than ever to carry on' (CNN) — After a projected win by a wide margin in West Virginia, Sen. Hillary Clinton told her supporters Tuesday night — and by implication, the Democratic Party's outstanding uncommitted superdelegates — that she is not dropping out of the White House race any time soon.
They are not dumb. They don't need a talking head like the so called eggheads do to tell them what to think. Of course Obama shares the same views of his Pastor. He considered him part of his family even.
God is always good!
He's pure Americana....belched up from the halls of academia, and fed through their multicultural filter. Cut me a break. If he were a red headed Irishman named Murphy, he'd be a union electrician in Chicago - at best.
(CNN) — If Hillary Clinton ends up winning more than 70.05 percent of the vote in West Virginia tonight, she will have her best showing of the campaign to date.
A. George McGovern in 1972.
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I think that is unfair.
Yeah well, the *pundits* have decided that's not good enough. Tough shit. I haven't had my say so in this mess yet. I will though. I'll be there bright and early Tuesday morning.
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It is one thing to despise a certain culture but quite obscene when we have people here that say they were hill billies but despise their own heritage. That is the ultimate elitism. Then to hang the "lack" of education on them as another reason to despise is the ultimate sickness of our society.
that tube's for you too!
Obama did not appear in public after the voting ended in West Virginia, but a campaign spokeswoman said he left Clinton a congratulatory message on her mobile phone. That was nice. Yea, that Lynndie England is a real brain trust. She tortures real good too. Probably votes just as good. God bless her and hers. Salt of the earth, I tell ya...
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Arator... You are beyond words.
I wouldn't translate that as 'Hillary's voters are a bunch of racists'. If one in five said race 'influenced' their vote then it's quite safe to say that 4 in 5 were not exactly truthful. That doesn't make everyone a racist. Webster's definition or racism is "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race". The articles you quote do not suggest that Obama's or Hillary's race were the PRIMARY determinant in their decision. They only state that one fifth of the Whites stated that race INFLUENCED their choice.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
About half of West Virginia voters said they believed the Illinois senator shared the views of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his controversial former pastor. Thanks TT... I can hardly wait for the map breakout.
I listened to it and comprehended the message, one which escapes so many elitists here.
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster!
Geeze!!!!! How do come up with this so fast?? !!!! LOL !
Obama went to Harvard. and I will say there is a LOT! of affirmative action at Harvard. there are completely different standards at Harvard for different people based on their race and whether or not they are jewish or not. If you are white and christian, then you are persecuted in the admissions standards of Harvard, that is not my opinion, that is a fact. Less than 30% of Harvard is white & christian, despite that over 70% of america is white and christian. I don't advocate racism, just the opposite. I wonder why Harvard practices racism.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Dont tell our resident elitists that hate their own whiteness where Robert Penn Warren sprang from.
Cyni, About THEM. They somehow have put the entire WV primary on Bozo filter. Not a word.
Did you ask red to take off his muddy shoes before he slithered in?
As opposed to all WV primary all the time? Like it really matters? Somewhere, there is a happy medium. ;^)
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West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 69% Reporting 1 Clinton 160,618 66% 2 Obama 65,850 27%
LOL
Jethro... Fox is still constipated tonite when it comes to Obama and assessing the guilt of those mean hill billies... From fox.. "Hillary Clinton kept her support among women, seniors, lower income and less-educated whites and rural voters, according to Tuesday’s FOX News exit poll of the West Virginia Democratic primary race." They are in actuality harming Obummer by repaeating his words over and over. Are there no " blacks" in WV????????????????
Red, I agree 100% with your comment, and I call this reverse racism. Please do me a favor? Post something at robin's forum about this injustice? Loads of examples exist. She, and others there, simply don't acknowledge that it exists. As an example, Obama's children, given the status of the family, do not deserve such a benefit, yet they will receive it. Perhaps a means test? god, we can do better than this as a society.
The smart, college educated ones are the same ones that gave us Bush, twice.
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LETS DO THE REVERSE RACISM TEST:
Delegates: 39 County Results --- 69% Reporting 1 Clinton 160,618 66% 2 Obama 65,850 27% WV??? Hmmm.. never heard of it... ;) Still, it would seem 2:1 is holding. Must be a mistake.
If we could roll back the clock 8 years, it would all be perfect./s ;)
Harvard started out as a Christian school too. They have fallen greatly. Now they are living off the past reputation of their name. Today they aren't a 10th of what they were in their prime.
God is always good!
Fox... Clinton 72 per cent.. Obama 28 per cent
Robin started her own forum? She can handle open debate so she starts her own forum? WOW!
God is always good!
Nah.........we would keep changing the ending because someone, somewhere wouldn't like the current ending. Ever see Butterfly Effect? No one ever comes out with a good ending, no matter how good the intentions.
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Clinton 72 per cent.. Obama 28 per cent Us undereducated hillbillies would call that an ass whuppin.
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Robin, aristeides, Jones, vast, icon and the rest are sniveling in their beer tonite as they discuss their hair loss. Arete is worried bout cost of mud flaps in Indie. What a sorry lot.
Clinton 72 per cent.. Obama 28 per cent Another war will shore up those results.
Dont you go gettin uppity on me, I can prove I have less edacashun than youins.
The O'Piles are going to have to go into hi spin mode when they justify voting for witch Clinton...
Never saw that one JL. A good ending is for movies... There are no good intentions when war is the first move. IMO.
You should check it out, cool movie and all about being able to go back and change decisions and actions to make something come out better, only to find out, a whole different can of worms happens. If anyone thinks any of these three people is going to change what is going on in Iraq, they better think again. Not gonna happen.
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And still lose. You'd actually think they were working for McCain.
Cyni, Jiffy peanut butter is at a premium. Rice in short supply. The Chinaman down the block is running low on dog meat. And please have that blue greeter vest of yours pressed and ready to go in the AM. Mud flaps UP!
I know none of them would end the war and are very similar to each other in their positions. I just enjoy seeing a racist like Obama getting his butt kicked.
God is always good!
If anyone thinks any of these three people is going to change what is going on in Iraq, they better think again. Not gonna happen. I'll put it on my list. Sounds good, but gad, do I really need a whole new set of worms????????? ;) If anyone thinks any of these three people is going to change what is going on in Iraq, they better think again. Not gonna happen. Tell it!!!! (most don't believe it when others of us say it)...
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08 Delegates: 39 County Results --- 82% Reporting 1 Clinton 200,754 67% 2 Obama 78,876 26%
Major memory jog. Good flick. Checking netflix - no Blockbuster in these gun filled hills.
Tauzero commanded me to stop relieving myself on the Financial threads. Actually he used naughty words.
Has Demi Moore's sweet young thing in it. Was a good movie, made you think about being able to have the ability to "What If". Wasn't such a good thing:P
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Must be an error there. There are an awful lot of new blacks in WV or, or , or WV has a lot of white guilters. Muhahahahahahahahaha Do arete, arator, aristeides and that mutely lot live there?
Delegates: 39 County Results --- 82% Reporting 1 Clinton 200,754 67% 2 Obama 78,876 26% Thanks TT! Do the vote numbers look low to anyone? I believe someone said there are 1.8 M people in WV. I wonder how many total registered voters there are, and what the turnout number is.
When President Obama ends the war, you might actually learn to love the black man as a brother. It sure wouldn't take much for him to out do his white predecessor. That bar's been set mighty low.
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Not everyone in WV is a Democrat and of course less than half of people are registered to vote. Actually turnout is much better than expected.
God is always good!
Thank you both for the recommendation! I'm glad we upgraded from cave drawings to cable. Moving pictures, sure cut down on the chit chat.. ;)
Thanks RJ.. That's actually great news.... When common-taters ;) discuss percentages, but fail to disclose overall turnout, they generally skew the story.
LOVE it!
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I have it on good authority that the Rev. Wright is known to put a bone thru his nose and roast uneducated whites in huge cast iron pots. I know for a fact they shrink heads, so don't blow this warning off lightly.
Was your world view formed by repeated viewings of 1930's Tarzan movies? ;^)
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Zbig-Kissinger bump
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question.
What an insulting cartoon. Picture Obaba on top of the black ghetto vote...I'm sure it'd go over really big with you.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Yeah, the age old Cain and Able...better watch your back.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Racists can't handle defeat. They are know to riot, murder, and loot.
God is always good!
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question. Whoaaaaaaa!! I saw a little pie chart last nite illustrating the % dem voters that would not vote HIll or BHO, if their candidate lost. I wish I could remember the breakout, but the numbers have increased... I believe it was something 70+% would not vote BHO, and 50+% would not vote Hilly. If she peeled off to go Indy where would the money come from? Even if she did do this, it's not a given that her entire base would follow. However, it could probably follow that such an event would ensure a McCain win. Hilly get's a special prize then from McCain. Hmmmmmmmmm........
That was a very impressive win last night for Hillary. She won every single county in West Virginia. It was a total blow out. Obama has no chance of winning West Virginia against McCain, none whatsoever. Obama is basically unelectable after this trouncing.
God is always good!
McCain is happy to hear this.
I am amused by those who's lack of political savvy about where West Virginia fits into the context of this primary race try to go with this. Their spin doesn't cause anyone to sweat, and only shows how ignorant they truly are. ;-D
Their spin doesn't cause anyone to sweat, and only shows how ignorant they truly are. ;-D What if they held a primary and nobody noticed? Actually, the Atlantic’s Matt Yglesias followed the West Virginia result, and reports on Hillary Clinton’s easy victory with all the sarcasm he can muster: Her campaign is rescued from the dead. As the Clinton campaign sagely points out “no Democrat has won the White House without winning West Virginia since 1916; and therefore Obama’s primary loss shows that despite his large lead in the polls over John McCain, he can’t [possibly] win the election. What’s even more interesting is that no Democrat has won the White House without carrying Minnesota since 1912 (it went for Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party) so given that Obama won Minnesota and Clinton won West Virginia, McCain is guaranteed to win the general election unless the eventual nominee can somehow completely replicate the social and political conditions prevailing in pre-WWI America. The outlook, in short, is very grim.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Heh, I hope the feast of material for this race doesn't blow up the heads of the political cartoonists of the United States. No matter which side of the fence any are on, they are having a field day with everybody. ;-)
Its the old comedians' joke about elections: Which one to vote for? One candidate is good for the country and the other is good for business!
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
People from the right or left nod heads and chuckle at this, and then go about defining those good for this country v. those good for business very differently. That's the ironic and certainly humorous part of this truism.
Well, the comedian has to determine which candidate is good for THEIR business. Not necessarily business in general...in my haste, I left that dangling.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
I have an old ferret named Zorro who has grown exceptionally affectionate since recovering from surgery to have a tumor removed. He has taken to climbing up on my shoulders and lower back to sleep while I read and post in the morning. To me, I am too good a 'dad' to put him back in his hammock and I justify the back pain of posting with a hob ferret on my back very gladly simply because I am grateful Zorro is still with me. But a conservative seeing this would laugh at my silly and week indecisiveness allowing a companion pet to rule my life. So it goes, one man's grace is another man's point of derision. The irony and mirth derived from the contrast of different political perspectives will always be a big part of why I am a political junkie.
A neocon would, but a traditional conservative would say you are living your life as you see fit with a minimum of interference, exercising your rights and enjoying the liberty you have. What's wrong with that? Nothing! It is how it should be! You've got the wrong view on Conservatives. Not all of us are confused former Democrats :) I myself have a very spoiled cat ... and your post may equally have come from my fingertips, except that my critter is a little larger than yours and I know conservatives a little better than thou.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Well, the conservatives better start looking right and left and grabbing the neocons mixed in among them to boot them from the party. This campaign this year is starting to look like the GOP is making the trip on the Titanic, largely because McStain is such a bald attempt to craft a campaign that appeals to conservatives and neocons alike. The neocons would have us believe that to have a genuine conservative like Ron Paul would be as evil and unthinkable a thing to do as King Solomon splitting a baby with a sword to satisfy a custody conflict. When really, it would be as healthy and invigorating a thing for the GOP to do to dump the neocon cancer they suffer from as it would be for the United States to exercise needed 'tough love' and boot Israel off the gravy train and to tell the Zionist lobby to go straight to hell.
Sen. John McCain's wife, Cindy was in the news today when her "McCain Family Recipes" for Ahi tuna, rosemary chicken and farfalle pasta that were posted on Sen. McCain's election website turned out to have been lifted from (copied word for word, in fact) from the Food Network website.
I wonder what cartoon would appropriately characterize Omarx and the NC vote...the (shriek) BLACK VOTE ? lolol Idiots
They are H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S of the highest odor...
"I reveal my innermost neocon to my god!"
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question. Whoaaaaaaa!! I saw a little pie chart last nite illustrating the % dem voters that would not vote HIll or BHO, if their candidate lost. I wish I could remember the breakout, but the numbers have increased... I believe it was something 70+% would not vote BHO, and 50+% would not vote Hilly. If she peeled off to go Indy where would the money come from? Even if she did do this, it's not a given that her entire base would follow. However, it could probably follow that such an event would ensure a McCain win. Hilly get's a special prize then from McCain. Hmmmmmmmmm........ I wonder if Ruby Ghouliani even really had cancer during his Senate run against Hiltery...the race the womanoid won by default in essence.
If you check any of the so-called "Conservative" blogs, boards, or talk shows, you'll see that none of them have any use for McLame whatsoever. Even on 4um, you have to notice that the actual conservatives look at McLame and say "What did we do to deserve this?" But, like most things based in Washington DC, the GOP HQ is completely tone-deaf to the country. Congress is equally tone-deaf all around. They have an urge to "just do something!" which means that they are going to screw it up. Like banning the incandescent light bulb. What a bright idea! Force people to use something that requires a recycling system that doesn't exist. "Power to the people" requires that power actually go to the people and that means enabling people to make their own decisions, not having those decisions made in Washington DC. That also means shrinking Government and reducing regulation. It also means enabling people to use their money as they see fit, so it means lowering taxes. THAT is a conservative viewpoint. It is the viewpoint of those of us who view ourselves as arch-conservatives to whom Barry Goldwater is still a hero. You'd like Barry if you looked at him in his own words. Gays in the military? "To be in the military, you don't have to be straight, you just have to shoot straight." I keep seeing "Power to the people!" rhetoric coming from Democrats and left-wingers. The result is simply bigger government and larger jack-boots. This is not "power to the people" - its "power to me and screw the people!"
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
The picture most commonly found above the desks of McCain staffers as they work for the chimp's third term.
McCain is happy to hear this. rockefeller, soros, zbig and kissinger must be laughing their asses off...especially at all the useful idiots that play the game believing they effect the outcome.
Oh gee, look what the arrested development Corn Flake Liar did...took me off of filter. Must be a slow day.
Even on 4um, you have to notice that the actual conservatives look at McLame and say "What did we do to deserve this?" But, like most things based in Washington DC, the GOP HQ is completely tone-deaf to the country. It's not tone deaf, my friend. The NAUers, counting most in D.C. and all of McHillObama, know that they are very close to the end of the road for their dreams and ONLY American patriots (Conservative-Constitutionalists) will really do anything to stop it. These Ofrauds sure as he## won't...
Let's get that right... Regardless of this sentiment, the Federal Government grew, the red ink grew, and freedoms were lost under both the conservative president named Ronald Reagan and the one we have now who most certainly is more neocon then conservative. Conservatives better rediscover the backbone Barry Goldwater had and hand that nomination torch to an honest and worthy man like Dr. Paul. Because otherwise nobody believes their rhetoric anymore, and all those votes of those this sort of lying doesn't work with anymore are in play, and this year the Democratic party is going to get most of them.
Do a 'from' search for my 'Ferret' account. I made some posts on it this week.
I made some posts on it this week. Here, suck on this: In the video here, Barack Obama tells us he believes George Bush Senior “did an excellent job when it came to the Gulf War” and this serves as a “model for how we should be operating.” In addition to Obama’s praise for slaughter and untold suffering, the presidential candidate told his audience the first Bush administration had engaged in “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a declaration that is completely at odds with reality. In fact, the United States had long planned to attack Iraq, years before Saddam invaded Kuwait for stealing its oil by way of slant drilling and violating OPEC oil production agreements, thus undercutting the price of oil in order to destroy Iraq’s economy. In 1989, the Pentagon had drawn up plans to invade Iraq. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr., colorfully known as “Stormin’ Norman” — “Mass Murdering Norman” works better — was named Commander of the so-called U.S. Central Command, which was the renamed version of the Rapid Deployment Force, and as commander he oversaw the plan to invade Iraq. During January of 1990, massive quantities of United States weapons, equipment, and supplies were sent to Saudi Arabia in order to prepare for the war against Iraq. CIA Director William Webster, writes Francis A. Boyle, “and the CIA assisted and directed Kuwait in its actions… in demanding immediate repayment of loans Kuwait had made to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War… and in breaking off negotiations with Iraq over these disputes.” In doing this, the United States “intended to provoke Iraq into aggressive military actions against Kuwait that they knew could be used to justify U.S. military intervention into the Persian Gulf for the purpose of destroying Iraq and taking over Arab oil fields.” But if we listen to Obama, the United States was involved in sincere and “incredible and hard diplomatic negotiation,” a statement that reveals either Obama’s ignorance or disingenuousness. It is common historic knowledge that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie tricked Saddam Hussein into invading Kuwait. Glaspie “assured him that the United States considered the dispute to be a regional concern, and that it would not intervene militarily. In other words, the United States government gave Saddam Hussein what amounted to a ‘green light’ to invade Kuwait.” Saddam, of course, was an easily fooled chump, as the U.S. had played a similar trick in 1980, when the Carter administration gave a “green light” urging Saddam to attack Iran, resulting in a catastrophically tragic war — 900,000 Iranians and 300,000 Iraqis were slaughtered. Obama, as a stand-up for the likes of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, both Rockefeller operatives, does not bother to mention in his speech that Bush Senior violated the Constitution and lied to the American people in order to invade Iraq. He said the act of moving 40,000 U.S. military personnel into the Gulf was “defensive.” From the outset, Bush “deliberately misled, deceived, concealed and made false representations to the Congress to prevent its free deliberation and informed exercise of legislative power,” as Boyle explains. Moreover, Bush intentionally usurped Congressional power, ignored its authority, and failed and refused to consult with the Congress. He instituted a naval blockade of Iraq — an overt act of war, no matter who writes the history books — without approval of Congress or the neolib lapdog organization, the United Nations. He sent an additional 200,000 troops without consulting Congress or acquiring its approval. Soon enough, Bush turned these “defensive” forces into offensive forces. He “strong-armed legislation through Congress that approved enforcement of U.N. resolutions vesting absolute discretion in any nation, providing no guidelines, and requiring no reporting to the United Nations.” Bush “knew full well that he intended to destroy the armed forces and civilian infrastructure of Iraq. Those acts were undertaken to enable him to commit a Nuremberg Crime Against Peace and war crimes. This conduct violated the Constitution and Laws of the United States and especially the War Powers Clause found in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, the U.S. War Powers Act of 1973, 87 Stat. 555,” notes Boyle. “The United States is knowingly violating Article 54 of the Geneva Convention which prohibits any country from undermining ‘objects indispensable to the survival of (another country’s) civilian population,’ including drinking water installations and supplies, says Thomas Nagy, a business professor at George Washington University,” Stephen Gowans wrote in 2001. “During the Gulf War, coalition forces bombed Iraq’s eight multi-purpose dams, destroying flood control systems, irrigation, municipal and industrial water storage, and hydroelectric power. Major pumping stations were targeted, and municipal water and sewage facilities were destroyed.” But it was worse than this, far worse, according to Nagy. Nagy says that not only did the United States deliberately destroy drinking water and sanitation facilities, it knew sanctions would prevent Iraq from rebuilding, and that epidemics would ensue. One document, written soon after the bombing, warned that sanctions would prevent Iraq from importing “water treatment replacement parts and some essential chemicals” leading to “increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.” Another document lists the most likely diseases: “diarrheal diseases (particularly children); acute respiratory illnesses (colds and influenza); typhoid; hepatitis A (particularly children); measles, diphtheria, and pertussis (particularly children); meningitis, including meningococcal (particularly children); cholera (possible, but less likely.)” Then U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman estimated that 200,000 Iraqis died in the Gulf War, but many more have died since. UNICEF estimates that well over a million Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S-led sanctions regime, in place for the last decade. Some 500,000 children have died, and an estimated 4,000 die from various preventable, sanctions-related diseases, every month, says the U.N. agency. Obama does not mention this tremendous and criminal loss of life. Instead, he concentrates on how much the invasion and medieval siege of Iraq cost. “You know how much that whole thing cost us?” Obama asks his audience. “20 billion dollars.” And then he takes the second Bush administration to task for spending $600 billion for the second invasion and occupation of Iraq, actually phase two of the original illegal and immoral attack. Not a single word on the million plus people who have so far lost their lives. Disgustingly, when Obama declares “that’s the kind of foreign policy I want to pursue,” the audience applauds. But then, as usual, the people are easily tricked, just like Saddam Hussein, and are bedazzled by cheap slogans and snake oil salesmen and enthusiastically offer up their plaudits. Dictators and tyrants have enjoyed this sort of support for centuries. If selected, Obama will usher in the next round of imperialistic mass murder under the Kissinger-Brzezinski banner, that is to say the bloody oriflamme of the neolibs. Naturally, the hoodwinked masses will see this as “change,” as the in-your-face neocons will be obliged to step aside, that is to say retire to their “think-tanks,” teaching positions, and memoirs. Of course, none of these criminals actually step aside, they simply step out of the public spotlight and continue their work in the shadows. It is not a mistake the neolib and neocon organizations are interlocking. It’s a shell game and there really is not much disagreement at the top. I don't believe McTraitor cares...at all.
You can quit pretending the (s)election process is real and not WWF-like theater for the sheeple. The CFR-Trilats own all 3 lock stock and barrel...
Their spin doesn't cause anyone to sweat, and only shows how ignorant they truly are. ;-D Yeah, Oregon is like the polar opposite of WV isn't it ?
I don't object to posting to you because of your views, you are welcome to them. But your very neocon ugliness and lack of couth which makes you think of a little politesse between adversaries in an open forum as nothing more then weakness that should be avoided at all costs means I still have little use for exchanging posts with you. You need to lighten up. You play nice and don't make it personal I will always answer. You don't then I have no use for doing so. I can tell you are an experienced interlocutor, well so am I. You are not going to knock me out of the ring here, and I am not going to influence how long you post here either. Do what you want to do, but always be aware I can indeed get angry, but I never sweat whenever engaged in rhetorical banter with folks like you. Cheers.
Consistently, 25%+ of registered Republicans are voting against McCain. Ron Paul not only released his bestselling manifesto, but he himself consistently takes about 10% of the vote and is still in the race. A growing number of conservatives 'get it' and understand that the root of conservatism is actually conserving something and are shucking the GOP plantation. Did you notice that in West Virginia some 10% of the vote went to Huckabee who withdrew months earlier? Republicans are beginning to buck the GOP leadership that has taken them for granted for a long time. Democrats will never do that, not from what I've seen. They're pretty well stuck on the plantation for the forseeable future. This leads to one of the gigantic flaws in the American psyche. Americans love winners. They don't remember losers. That is why we have the big lie of "Don't throw your vote away! Pick a winner!" Another flaw is that Americans are fad-oriented and promote conformity with whatever is 'cool' at the time. What is 'political correctness' other than an attempt to force conformity on the people? How about the latest "green" fad? If you're not on-board with what the masses think is popular and how they tell you to do it, you're a pariah. Obama is the latest craze. Get on board or you're a loser! But what if you don't like Socialist policies? Well, you're just a RAAACIST! What is up with that? Have people no shame any longer? Are we merely a nation of petty dictators trying to order each other around? Is that what 'freedom' has become? Merely the freedom to follow a herd "or else"? Individual and independent thought is not tolerated in this country any longer. Who promotes this? Lefties who used to be for freedom and tolerance have become the single most intolerant group in the nation. How's that for hypocrisy? "Agree with me or burn in hell!" is the new mantra of the Lefties. Since when did they start going to church? Never mind that many people interpret 'green' in their own way and are actually looking at better ways to do things. If you're not driving an environmentally-awful unrecyclable hybrid, you're not on-board and we're going to scoff at you! Then the current craze subsides and a new one takes root. The cycle repeats ad-nauseum. Personally, I'm sick of it all. Sorry for the rant, but that is exactly what I'm seeing out there in the world these days.
Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.
Many here pulled the lever for smirk at least once. I'll cop to '00.
Bump that.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Oregon is very very different then West Virginia. Not better, but we have much more diversity in many ways, and much of this is due to the fact that geographically we are a diverse and large piece of the U.S. The population is centered around the Willamette Valley, and tends to be young, well to do in the Portland area. They form the core of the informal leaders and others who influence the Democraic and liberal Republican electorate in national races. For example of how thing are here; the rally for Kerry the last election was one of his biggest and succeeded under the adverse conditions of Bush trying to tie up the media by extending his speech happening simultaneously in nearby Beaverton causing the heat and sun -- not to mention Kerry's wife's speech she had the chore to do to bide for time -- making everyone suffer greatly. I have never seen a crowd not break up and decay before in those circumstances, and it speaks of the utter hunger and tenacity of the Democrats here in Oregon to deliver the best candidate to have a go at McCain. They don't show the same confusion as WV votes do over Obama. Everyone here knows he's Christian, all WV polls showed some people believing otherwise because of mis-perceptions about the man. We are voting now in Oregon, by mail. I have my ballot right in front of me so I won't forget to mail it on the way to work today. We are very well informed in Oregon, well educated, compassionate, deeply concerned about environmental issues, and we will be part of the picture that puts the best man (or woman) running for the Democratic Nomination into the White House this November.
As Reagan would say, "There you go again." I was in the U.S. Army nine years. I have heard that too many times to count. I have heard, "Blood and guts makes the grass grow green and napalm sticks to kids" talk a large part of my life; so that sort of "BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" is lost on me. I have seen all this and more long before now, so all you prove here is that you have no point at all except the promotion of a very fascist in tone mindset of no quarter for your political adversary. If that's your choice, that is fine with me. Because as I said, I just will ignore the process of answering you.
Ewwwwwwwwww... thats good. McCain sort of reminds me of 'Cotton Hill', Hank's dad in King of the Hill. War hero with exaggerated war stories. Sort of looks like him too. (I guess I wasn't the first to find this comparison either) ==== I can't claim ownership of this comparison, but it's really sort of shocking, once you realize how much it's true: John McCain is Hank Hill[s] father, Cotton. If you're not familiar with Cotton, here's his Wiki page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_Hil l . Read up, and be astonished at the similarities! However, if you are familiar with Cotton, you'll realize that this is decidedly not a compliment, this comparison. Cotton Hill was a loud- mouthed, angry a'hole.
#2. To: mirage (#1)
#3. To: mirage (#1)
That is the result from the caucuses - the actual vote from today has yet to be tallied.
#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#3)
#5. To: mirage (#4)
"Hillary Clinton wins with 0% of the vote tallied!"
#6. To: mirage (#4)
#7. To: mirage (#4)
"Hillary Clinton wins with 0% of the vote tallied!"
#8. To: Peppa (#7)
There's 3 weeks to go till the convention cage fight
#9. To: mirage (#8)
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
Exiting polling shows 68% HRC to 32% BHO.
#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
#12. To: Cynicom (#9)
Exiting polling shows 68% HRC to 32% BHO.
#13. To: mirage (#12)
Damn uneducated racist white rednecks....they doan' git how ta vote proper!
#14. To: RickyJ (#13)
Barack Obama - 40% - 2981 votes
Mike Gravel - 2% - 171 votes
#15. To: mirage (#8)
There's 3 weeks to go till the convention cage fight Recreate 1968
#16. To: Peppa (#15)
The parallels to McGovern/Nixon are pretty strong, including that McCain is quite liberal.
#17. To: mirage, cynicom, all (#12)
#18. To: mirage (#16)
(Edited)
Pretty much guarantees President McCain, doesn't it? The parallels to McGovern/Nixon are pretty strong, including that McCain is quite liberal.
#19. To: Cynicom (#11)
MSM is either ignoring WV or at best downplaying it.
Obama supporters: everyone else.
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Anyone listening to H's speech? She's not bowing out like the talking heads had hoped. And a hush has fallen over the Obummerites.....
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#23. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#19)
Obama supporters: everyone else.
#24. To: RickyJ (#20)
She knows in 2012 she will be too old. Now or never for Hillary.
#25. To: RickyJ (#20)
She either wins now or she never wins. She knows in 2012 she will be too old. Now or never for Hillary.
#26. To: Cynicom (#21)
WV is a non event to MSM.
#27. To: RickyJ (#20)
Now or never for Hillary.
#28. To: mirage (#23)
Obama supporters: everyone else.
#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)
The context is the Demo primaries, of course.
#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)
I can't say that I 'listened' to her speech. What did she say? Did she say that she was going to win the nomination? How?
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
Unless he can attract her base, McKooK is a winner.
#33. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, Peppa, Scrapper2, angle (#30)
#34. To: TwentyTwelve (#32)
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
#36. To: Cynicom (#33)
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
They're only here to commit the crimes Americans refuse to do.
#38. To: TwentyTwelve (#37)
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
#40. To: Jethro Tull, Peppa (#36)
#41. To: Cynicom (#35)
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#43. To: Cynicom (#33)
Aristeides, arete, vast, red, ghost, robin and the rest of "robins ruffians" must be home whining and sniveling in their beer. How dare those racist hill billies reject their black savior.
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#45. To: justlurking (#44)
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
I just took a peek. robin is debating robin about our Iraqi exit strategy. robin is the clear winner at the moment.
#47. To: justlurking (#44)
And as expected, every article I am reading is essentially saying she won because the white vote she got was from a bunch a racists.
#48. To: Cynicom (#45)
#49. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#19)
WV is 2/3 Demo and yet they voted for Dumbo W, twice in a row and for Bubba before Dumbo.
#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)
So, if your question is: will Obama beat McCain. My first reaction is "of course he will", mainly because just about everyone is sick and tired of Bush, Neocons, wars and all the BS we had since 2000. We're in the same situation we were in 1999, after 8 years of Bubba and Bubbette.
#51. To: Cynicom (#35)
I understand that Clinton has said if Obummer gets more than ten votes she will demand a recount.
#52. To: Arator (#49)
#53. To: Peppa (#43)
They are probably burning an effigy of WV.
#54. To: TwentyTwelve (#41)
Source: Huckabee Tops McCain VP List
#55. To: Peppa, Cynicom (#51)
#56. To: Peppa, Jethro tull, christine (#51)
#57. To: Arator (#53)
That would be like burning an effigy twice.
#58. To: Peppa (#43)
They are probably burning an effigy of WV.
#59. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)
#60. To: Cynicom (#56)
All the O'Piles are discussing their hair loss tonite because there is nothing of interest in the news...
#61. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)
#62. To: Cynicom (#56)
All the O'Piles are discussing their hair loss tonite because there is nothing of interest in the news...
#63. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)
Delegates: 39
#64. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#47)
#65. To: Arator (#49)
#66. To: Jethro Tull, Peppa (#62)
They're warming up for the KY primary next Tues :P
#67. To: Peppa (#57)
I'll never understand democrat math.
#68. To: justlurking (#48)
Bush: Worst President Ever
#69. To: TwentyTwelve (#58)
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
(Edited)
Who was the last D to lose the WV primary, and then go on to win the presidency?
#71. To: justlurking (#44)
And as expected, every article I am reading is essentially saying she won because the white vote she got was from a bunch a racists.
#72. To: TwentyTwelve (#68)
#73. To: justlurking (#64)
#74. To: Peppa (#69)
#75. To: Arator (#70)
Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
#76. To: Peppa (#73)
#77. To: Jethro Tull (#71)
Nora O'Donnell all but said the folks in WV are undereducated whites and simply aren't O's base.
#78. To: Peppa (#73)
I'm curious, what was the Black vote for Obama? I've noticed the media stresses the 'educated' white vote v the uneducated whites.
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#61)
As far as WV voting for Bush, what does that have to do with a D primary?
#80. To: Arator (#67)
WV's got coal fires or industrial smelters burning somewhere all the time. Hence, its effigy (if it is a true likeness) is already lit up. There's no need to set fire to what is already burning.
#81. To: Arator (#70)
#82. To: TwentyTwelve (#74)
Clinton cruises to easy win in West Virginia
#83. To: Cynicom (#76)
#84. To: TwentyTwelve (#78)
About half of West Virginia voters said they believed the Illinois senator shared the views of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his controversial former pastor.
#85. To: Cynicom (#66)
WV was bad but letting them vote in KY is asking too much from a black slick from chicago that is living on food stamps and got a free ride thru school.
#86. To: RickyJ (#84)
#87. To: Jethro Tull (#75)
#88. To: RickyJ (#84)
Of course Obama shares the same views of his Pastor. He considered him part of his family even.
#89. To: Cynicom (#76)
They do not do exit polls for black voters, waste of time. hehehehehe
#90. To: TwentyTwelve (#86)
If Hillary Clinton ends up winning more than 70.05 percent of the vote in West Virginia tonight, she will have her best showing of the campaign to date.
#91. To: christine (#81)
#92. To: Hillbilly Cyni (#81)
#93. To: Peppa (#82)
Clinton cruises to easy win in West Virginia
#94. To: RickyJ (#84)
(Edited)
They are not dumb.
#95. To: Arator (#94)
#96. To: justlurking (#64)
Racial attitudes also came into play, and favorably for Clinton. About one in five whites said race influenced their choice of a candidate,
#97. To: TwentyTwelve (#78)
Exit polls showed Obama picked up more than a quarter of the white vote in West Virginia, which has a small black population. Two of every 10 white voters said race was a factor in their vote, and only a third of those said they would support Obama against McCain.
#98. To: christine (#92)
#99. To: Cynicom (#91)
Then to hang the "lack" of education on them as another reason to despise is the ultimate sickness of our society.
#100. To: TwentyTwelve (#93)
#101. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
#102. To: justlurking (#90)
#103. To: Cynicom (#98)
#104. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
#105. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
#106. To: Peppa (#97)
#107. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
#108. To: Jethro Tull, christine, Peppa (#103)
(Edited)
#109. To: Red Jones (#101)
#110. To: Peppa (#99)
(Edited)
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster!
#111. To: Cynicom (#108)
"Hillary Clinton kept her support among women, seniors, lower income and less-educated whites and rural voters, according to Tuesday’s FOX News exit poll of the West Virginia Democratic primary race."
#112. To: Cynicom (#108)
#113. To: TwentyTwelve (#106)
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08
#114. To: justlurking (#110)
They should sent the smart ones to war first... then it would be over faster! The smart, college educated ones are the same ones that gave us Bush, twice.
#115. To: Red Jones (#101)
Less than 30% of Harvard is white & christian, despite that over 70% of america is white and christian.
#116. To: Peppa, christine, jethro tull (#114)
#117. To: Jethro Tull (#109)
Post something at robin's forum about this injustice?
#118. To: Peppa (#114)
If we could roll back the clock 8 years, it would all be perfect./s ;)
#119. To: Cynicom (#116)
Fox...
#120. To: RickyJ (#117)
#121. To: Cynicom (#116)
Fox...
#122. To: justlurking (#119)
Us undereducated hillbillies
#123. To: Peppa (#121)
#124. To: justlurking (#118)
Nah.........we would keep changing the ending because someone, somewhere wouldn't like the current ending. Ever see Butterfly Effect? No one ever comes out with a good ending, no matter how good the intentions.
#125. To: Peppa (#124)
Never saw that one JL.
#126. To: Cynicom (#123)
The O'Piles are going to have to go into hi spin mode when they justify voting for witch Clinton...
#127. To: Cynicom (#123)
The O'Piles are going to have to go into hi spin mode when they justify voting for witch Clinton...
#128. To: Cynicom (#120)
Arete is worried bout cost of mud flaps in Indie.
#129. To: justlurking (#125)
If anyone thinks any of these three people is going to change what is going on in Iraq, they better think again. Not gonna happen.
#130. To: justlurking (#125)
You should check it out, cool movie and all about being able to go back and change decisions and actions to make something come out better, only to find out, a whole different can of worms happens.
#131. To: Peppa (#121)
#132. To: justlurking, Peppa (#125)
Butterfly Effect?
#133. To: Jethro Tull (#128)
#134. To: Jethro Tull (#132)
#135. To: TwentyTwelve (#131)
#136. To: TwentyTwelve (#131)
West Virginia Democratic Primary 13-May-08
#137. To: RickyJ (#129)
(Edited)
I know none of them would end the war and are very similar to each other in their positions. I just enjoy seeing a racist like Obama getting his butt kicked.
#138. To: Peppa (#136)
Do the vote numbers look low to anyone? I believe someone said there are 1.8 M people in WV. I wonder how many total registered voters there are, and what the turnout number is.
#139. To: Jethro Tull, justlurking (#132)
Major memory jog. Good flick. Checking netflix - no Blockbuster in these gun filled hills.
#140. To: RickyJ (#138)
Not everyone in WV is a Democrat and of course less than half of people are registered to vote. Actually turnout is much better than expected.
#141. To: Peppa (#140)
common-taters ;)
#142. To: Arator (#137)
you might actually learn to love the black man as a brother.
#143. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
(Edited)
I have it on good authority that the Rev. Wright is known to put a bone thru his nose and roast uneducated whites in huge cast iron pots. I know for a fact they shrink heads, so don't blow this warning off lightly.
#144. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
And a hush has fallen over the Obummerites.....
#145. To: Arator (#137)
When President Obama ends the war, you might actually learn to love the black man as a brother. It sure wouldn't take much for him to out do his white predecessor. That bar's been set mighty low.
#146. To: Peppa, FOH (#136)
#147. To: TwentyTwelve (#146)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#148. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#149. To: Arator (#137)
you might actually learn to love the black man as a brother
#150. To: Ferret Mike, *Racist 2008* (#147)
#151. To: TwentyTwelve (#146)
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out
#152. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#153. To: TwentyTwelve (#152)
#154. To: RickyJ (#153)
Obama is basically unelectable after this trouncing.
#155. To: TwentyTwelve (#154)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#156. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#155)
I am amused by those who's lack of political savvy about where West Virginia fits into the context of this primary race try to go with this.
#157. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#158. To: angle (#157)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#159. To: Ferret Mike (#158)
No matter which side of the fence any are on, they are having a field day with everybody.
#160. To: mirage (#159)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#161. To: Ferret Mike (#160)
People from the right or left nod heads and chuckle at this, and then go about defining those good for this country v. those good for business very differently.
#162. To: angle (#157)
#163. To: mirage (#161)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#164. To: Ferret Mike (#163)
But a conservative seeing this would laugh at my silly and week indecisiveness allowing a companion pet to rule my life.
#165. To: Ferret Mike (#163)
#166. To: mirage (#164)
"A neocon would, but a traditional conservative would say you are living your life as you see fit with a minimum of interference, exercising your rights and enjoying the liberty you have."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#167. To: TwentyTwelve (#165)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#168. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#169. To: TwentyTwelve (#165)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#170. To: angle (#148)
What an insulting cartoon. Picture Obaba on top of the black ghetto vote...I'm sure it'd go over really big with you.
#171. To: Ferret Mike (#167)
#172. To: TwentyTwelve (#165)
Within her zombie heart Cindy McCain is a committed Stockbroker for Jesus, an offshoot of Evangelical Corporatism. As a member of the First Baptist Church of the Gooey Death, she is able to express her sacred love of god and divine hatred of gays and liberals. Religion has taught her to stop worrying and love the "Almighty Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran".
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#173. To: Peppa, TwentyTwelve (#151)
38% of Democrats Want Clinton to Drop Out
#174. To: Ferret Mike (#166)
Well, the conservatives better start looking right and left and grabbing the neocons mixed in among them to boot them from the party. This campaign this year is starting to look like the GOP is making the trip on the Titanic, largely because McStain is such a bald attempt to craft a campaign that appeals to conservatives and neocons alike.
#175. To: Ferret Mike (#172)
#176. To: FOH (#173)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#177. To: TwentyTwelve (#154)
Obama is basically unelectable after this trouncing.
#178. To: Ferret Mike (#176)
#179. To: FOH (#177)
rockefeller, soros, zbig and kissinger must be laughing their asses off...especially at all the useful idiots that play the game believing they effect the outcome.
#180. To: mirage (#174)
If you check any of the so-called "Conservative" blogs, boards, or talk shows, you'll see that none of them have any use for McLame whatsoever.
#181. To: mirage (#174)
But, like most things based in Washington DC, the GOP HQ is completely tone-deaf to the country.
#182. To: TwentyTwelve (#179)
Barack Mohammed Hussein Obama
#183. To: mirage (#174)
"I keep seeing "Power to the people!" rhetoric coming from Democrats and left-wingers. The result is simply bigger government and larger jack-boots. This is not "power to the people" - its "power to me and screw the people!""
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#184. To: FOH (#178)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#185. To: FOH (#182)
#186. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
Do a 'from' search for my 'Ferret' account.
#187. To: TwentyTwelve (#185)
#188. To: Ferret Mike (#183)
Conservatives better rediscover the backbone Barry Goldwater had and hand that nomination torch to an honest and worthy man like Dr. Paul.
#189. To: Ferret Mike (#155)
I am amused by those who's lack of political savvy about where West Virginia fits into the context of this primary race try to go with this.
#190. To: FOH (#186)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#191. To: Ferret Mike (#190)
KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY
#192. To: Ferret Mike (#183)
Conservatives better rediscover the backbone Barry Goldwater had and hand that nomination torch to an honest and worthy man like Dr. Paul. Because otherwise nobody believes their rhetoric anymore, and all those votes of those this sort of lying doesn't work with anymore are in play, and this year the Democratic party is going to get most of them.
#193. To: justlurking. the thread (#110)
The smart, college educated ones are the same ones that gave us Bush, twice.
#194. To: mirage (#192)
#195. To: FOH (#189)
"Yeah, Oregon is like the polar opposite of WV isn't it ?"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#196. To: FOH (#191)
"KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#197. To: (#171)
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