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Title: Obama's Achilles' heel (My Title)
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Published: May 14, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-05-14 11:26:52 by Jethro Tull
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Obama's appeal to working-class whites faltering, polls show
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Obama's appeal to working-class whites faltering more and more, polls show
AP Worldstream; May 3, 2008; ALAN FRAM; 978 Words Barack Obama's problem winning votes from working-class whites is ... Obama among working-class whites. They ... lead among white college graduates ... underscore Obama's continued ... in which working-class whites have ... present a problem ...
Clinton says Obama's support among working, white Americans has diminished
AP Worldstream; May 9, 2008; BETH FOUHY; 320 Words ... said Barack Obama's support among working, white Americans ... would pose problems for him in ... Senator Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans ... saying. The Obama campaign ... blogosphere. Working-class whites ...
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AP Worldstream; May 2, 2008; BETH FOUHY; 1,025 Words ... continued success and Senator Obama's continued difficulty connecting ... they are concerned about Obama's persistent weakness among ... to regain footing among working-class whites in Indiana and elsewhere ... strategists also contend that Obama's message of hope and ...
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Sunday Gazette-Mail; May 4, 2008; Alan Fram; 898 Words ... Barack Obama's problem winning votes from working- class whites is ... Obama among working-class whites. They ... lead among white college graduates ... underscore Obama's continued ... in which working-class whites have ... present a ...
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Poll: Clinton wins among whites and working-class voters in Texas, Ohio
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Poll: Clinton leads among whites and working class voters in Texas, Ohio
AP Worldstream; Mar 5, 2008; ALAN FRAM; 828 Words ... among whites and working-class voters who had begun ... be limiting Barack Obama to groups that have ... pivotal sources of Obama's support. They were ... independent voters _ whom Obama has dominated _ and ... behind her in Texas. Obama had edged her among ... performing strongly with ...
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Poll: Working Class Whites Back Clinton
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Political Junkie: Obama's Former Pastor Speaks Out
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Obama's Religious Rhetoric Puts Faith in Spotlight
NPR Weekend Edition - Sunday; Apr 13, 2008; LYNN NEARY; 1,346 Words Obama's Religious Rhetoric ... had said that working class voters can ... response. NEARY: Obama's comment drew ... Hagerty reports, Obama's rhetoric connects ... a religion problem. John Kerry ... that's sung in white evangelical ... now advises Obama's ...
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International Herald Tribune; Mar 20, 2008; Brian Knowlton The New York Times Media Group; 929 Words ... on after Obama's speech Amid ... Senator Barack Obama's speech on ... doubts of some white voters over ... support among working-class whites ... There is white resentment ... describing Obama's speech, which ... could be a problem for ...


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He won 21% of the white vote in WV, 29% in PA, 34% in IN and app. the same # in Ohio. (20 images)

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Barack's rock: Sen. Obama's blunt, tough partner, Michelle, helps shape her husband's politics and life and is integral to his White House run.

All we wanted was Claire Huxtable. Was that too much to ask?

let overwrite, let override

Tauzero  posted on  2008-05-14   11:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

He won 21% of the white vote in WV, 29% in PA, 34% in IN and app. the same # in Ohio.

It will be interesting to see how much of the white vote the 57 stater will get in Oregon. If it is also low then Obama is finished.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-14   11:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Attention West Virginia: Barack just gave you the finger.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   12:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tauzero. all (#1)

Huxtable bump

I vote for Cosby & Claire in a heartbeat.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-14   12:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ (#2)

It will be interesting to see how much of the white vote the 57 stater will get in Oregon.

He will clean up in Oregon for the primary because it has been Californicated. For the general, its less certain due to the Bradley Effect and that Kerry only took the state with 51% in 2004 and that for some weird reason a lot of Californicates turn into "Northwest rednecks" after time.

The difference, of course, between a Northwest Redneck and a Southern Redneck doesn't just stop with the college degree, but the Northwest Redneck only drinks local microbrew and prefers non-Starbucks coffee while dining at non-chain restaurants. The Northwest Redneck still can't differentiate between any two kinds of Asian food despite a haughty attitude, but he plays the game well. Instead of a 1970s pickup, he drives a lean, mean, modern machine, usually Japanese. Over time, he picks up a rabid anti-tax stance and joins the locals in crafting ballot measures to limit how much money the State can extract from the people. After a decade, a sheen of cynicism comes over him and he begins to distrust politicians he once worshiped in the warm California sun.

There is a joke around here: An earthquake hits California and kills a million people. FEMA sends aid. Oregon sends a million replacement Californians and asks if they need a million more. Please, take them. There are plenty to get rid of.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   12:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mirage (#5)

He will clean up in Oregon for the primary because it has been Californicated.

Hillary won California.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-14   14:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#6)

Hillary won California.

California is a majority-minority state, though. Oregon most definitely is not.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   14:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#7) (Edited)

California is a majority-minority state, though. Oregon most definitely is not.

I'm not following. I thought minorities were for Obama. Maybe just the African American minorities are for him. Still, I don't see Hillary doing too bad in Oregon, unless the whites there are semi-retarded.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-14   14:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#8)

I'm not following. I thought minorities were for Obama. Maybe just the African American minorities are for him. Still, I don't see Hillary doing too bad in Oregon, unless the whites there are semi-retarded.

California is approaching "Hispanic Majority" status. Hispanics don't like blacks in California. Check the now-weekly race riots in Los Angeles schools for details.

California Hispanics did not vote for Obama. The liberal centers (excluding Los Angeles) went for Obama; the sticks went for Clinton.

Oregon has a lot of bleeding-hearts who come from the liberal centers of CA so the Guilt Level overfloweth.

CNN's California exit poll demographic breakdown put it this way:

- Whites aged 18-44 went for Obama
- Whites aged 45+ went for Clinton
- Latinos (all ages) went for Clinton by 60% or better
- 'All other races' (Asian, East Indian, et al) went for Clinton by 62%

Now, take into account that Oregon is about 90% white with the population split 50/50 between 'Moscow on the Willamette' Portland and 'the rest of the state' and do the math from there. Oregon goes for Obama in the primary.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   14:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mirage (#9) (Edited)

Oregon has a lot of bleeding-hearts who come from the liberal centers of CA so the Guilt Level overfloweth.

Any white that thinks they need to feel guilty about slavery doesn't really deserve to be free. Union soldiers fought and died partly to stop slavery. They knew if it spread to the North then the poor and middle class whites in factories would lose their jobs to black slaves. The people that brought the slaves over here from Africa were Jewish. If any one should feel guilty about slavery in America it is the Jews and the plantation owners, not your average white person. Of course you will never see a Jew feel guilty about such a thing, most don't even feel guilty about what they are doing now to the Palestinians.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-14   14:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mirage (#3)

Funny :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-14   14:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#10)

That may be the case, but it still exists. People feel guilt for things they had nothing to do with BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO HAVE IT.

See my rant on another thread for details.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   14:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mirage (#5)

a lot of Californicates turn into "Northwest rednecks" after time.

Are you a former californaholic? The redneck description was spot on.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-05-14   15:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: angle (#13)

Are you a former californaholic?

I'm a native Oregonian who ended up in California for a number of years.

Change doesn't always make things better. Often times, it makes things a heck of a lot worse.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-14   15:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mirage (#14)

I've been thinking about moving to Oregon in the future. Perhaps in the NE around Pendleton, but maybe more toward the coast...I don't know enough about it...need to do some exploration. If you have a few minutes to spare, can you tell me the drawbacks of living in Oregon?

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-05-15   7:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: angle (#15)

If you have a few minutes to spare, can you tell me the drawbacks of living in Oregon?

Sure.

The land use laws are nasty. You might not be able to do anything with land that you purchase. Some counties are trying to buck the State on that now.

Eastern Oregon is a desert. It is very hot and very dry out there.

The income tax is as high as California's. Oregon is not a very low-tax state.

There is a large population of lefties who take great pride in their attempts to order people around. If you go into downtown Portland when it is protest season, bring pepper spray.

The State Government has figured out how to screw The People when it comes to ballot initiatives. It used to be that The People could pass their own Constitutional Amendments, but the Magistrates have decided you can only effect one small change per ballot measure now. They don't like the fact that The People can override the Elite.

In Southern Oregon, in Ashland, if your family hasn't been there since the 1800s, they look down upon you and WILL try and run you out of town. On the flip side, in Ashland, they call themselves "tolerant" and "progressive".

Jobs are hard to come by in Oregon especially if you're not living in the Portland area.

On the flip side, Oregon is a "practically anything goes outside of Portland" state for firearms. No registration, no waiting periods, and Class 3 is legal.

There are more plusses and minuses to it. The big minus is that the state is full of clueless refugees from California these days who don't realize that they are turning Oregon into that which they fled.

McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.

mirage  posted on  2008-05-15   12:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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