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Title: (Tube) Helloooo.....Obama believes in "global war on terror"
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Published: May 14, 2008
Author: Obama
Post Date: 2008-05-14 20:08:45 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 537
Comments: 27


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You Obama Pods need to watch this in a continuous loop....

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#1. To: Arator, Os (#0)

Please explain.

Thank-you

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-14   20:12:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Please explain.

Ron Paul already has.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-15   19:38:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Arator (#16)

The WOT is a fraud, yes or no?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-15   20:02:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17) (Edited)

The WOT is a fraud, yes or no?

Yes. But, the "national security" GOPers plus media have created a climate where candidates who say so risk getting called "weak", "appeaser", "soft on terrorism", "crypto-Muslim", "al Qaida sympathizer", "not patriotic", "not supporting the troops", ad nausium.

Fringe candidates have nothing to loose by speaking the truth. For mainstreamers, especially early in the campaign, there is more to loose by taking on the other mainstreamers and the media on this issue. Does that mean Obama actually buys it? He's a smart guy. I doubt it. But, time will tell.

Fact is, he has questioned many of the WOT's foundational precepts already. For example:

1) Obama rejects preemptive war in favor of diplomatic engagement.

2) Obama will engage with and, therefore, re-humanize neo-con "archvillians" Achmanidejad, Chavez, etc.

3) Obama rejects the notion that Iraq is a "frontline in the war on terror". He believes that it is a strategic mistake that needs to be reversed ASAP.

4) Obama wants to refocus the mission on capturing al Qaida. This is great, because once the CIA proxy army is taken out (for real) he can declare victory and end that war as well.

5) Obama rejects the fear mongering of the GOP with his message of hope. This in and of itself undermines WOT psychological ops.

6) Obama, like all lefty Dems, wants to spend money on domestic social programs, not the MIC and fake WOT. As such, he has a built in imperative to end the fake WOT, gut the MIC and redirect the money to domestic programs.

In sum, your attempts to equate Obama with the neo-con/GOPer WOT fighters don't wash. The informed know better and will prevail this November.

McCain and the Neocon crazies must be defeated!

Arator  posted on  2008-05-15   21:03:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: Arator (#22)

McCain and the Neocon crazies must be defeated!

As well as the rest of the crazies who raised thier hand in that video up above.

wbales  posted on  2008-05-15 21:11:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arator (#22)

So, although the WOT is a fiction, Obama acknowledged it exists in debate so he wouldn't be called nasty names. Further, he is willing to launch preemptive war against al-Qaida (another fiction) because of...of....political pressure?

1) Obama rejects preemptive war in favor of diplomatic engagement.

Obama threatens military force against al-Qaida in Pakistan.

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Byline: Mike Dorning

WASHINGTON _ Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, under attack from a rival who portrays him as naive on foreign policy, declared Wednesday he would use military force against al-Qaida operatives hiding in tribal areas of Pakistan if that nation did not move more aggressively against them first.

The Illinois senator threatened he would take military action as president, if necessary, despite the risk of undercutting the country's leader, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, an important American ally.

"I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges," Obama said. "But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. ... If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will."

Obama delivered the warning in a speech on counter-terrorism policy at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, a think tank in Washington.

Obama's stance provided a show of foreign-policy strength at a time when his chief rival in early presidential polling, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has sought to depict him as naive in international affairs after Obama indicated he would be willing to negotiate with foreign dictators that the U.S. has shunned.

His declaration also followed revelations last month that the Bush administration made a last-minute decision in 2005 to abort a special forces raid to capture senior al-Qaida leaders in Pakistan's tribal areas amid fears the operation might jeopardize relations with Pakistan. The disclosure stirred criticism of the White House, and in his speech Obama called the decision to abort "a terrible mistake."

A national intelligence assessment recently made public concluded al-Qaida is reconstituting itself in the remote region of Pakistan and gaining strength, including setting up training camps.

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