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Title: California's top court legalizes gay marriage
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URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080515/D90MB7SO0.html
Published: May 15, 2008
Author: Lisa Leff
Post Date: 2008-05-15 20:05:12 by noone222
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - California's Supreme Court declared gay couples in the nation's biggest state can marry - a monumental but perhaps short-lived victory for the gay rights movement Thursday that was greeted with tears, hugs, kisses and at least one instant proposal of matrimony. Same-sex couples could tie the knot in as little as a month. But the window could close soon after - religious and social conservatives are pressing to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November that would undo the Supreme Court ruling and ban gay marriage. "Essentially, this boils down to love. We love each other. We now have equal rights under the law," declared a jubilant Robin Tyler, a plaintiff in the case along with her partner. She added: "We're going to get married. No Tupperware, please." A crowd of people raised their fists in triumph inside City Hall, and people wrapped themselves in the rainbow-colored gay-pride flag outside the courthouse. In the Castro, the historic center of the gay community in San Francisco, Tim Oviatt wept as he watched the news on TV. (AP) Lesbian couple Robin Tyler, left, and Diane Olson, pose for a photo at the law office of their... Full Image "I've been waiting for this all my life. This is a life-affirming moment," he said. By the afternoon, gay and lesbian couples had already started lining up at San Francisco City Hall to make appointments to get marriage licenses. In its 4-3 ruling, the Republican-dominated high court struck down state laws against same-sex marriage and said domestic partnerships that provide many of the rights and benefits of matrimony are not enough. "In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," Chief Justice Ronald George wrote for the majority in ringing language that delighted gay rights activists. Massachusetts is the only other state to legalize gay marriage, something it did in 2004. The California ruling is considered monumental by virtue of the state's size - 38 million out of a U.S. population of 302 million - and its historic role in the vanguard of the many social and cultural changes that have swept the country since World War II. California has an estimated 92,000 same-sex couples. "It's about human dignity. It's about human rights. It's about time in California," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, pumping his fist in the air, told a roaring crowd at City Hall. "As California goes, so goes the rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now. It's going to happen, whether you like it or not." Unlike Massachusetts, California has no residency requirement for obtaining a marriage license, meaning gays from around the country are likely to flock to the state to be wed, said Jennifer Pizer, a gay-rights attorney who worked on the case. The ultimate reach of the ruling could be limited, however, since most states do not recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Nor does the federal government. The conservative Alliance Defense Fund said it would ask the justices for a stay of the decision until after the fall election in hopes of adding California to the list of 26 states that have approved constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. "We're obviously very disappointed in the decision. The remedy is a constitutional amendment. The constitution defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman," said Glen Lavy, senior counsel for the organization. Opponents of gay marriage could also ask the high court to reconsider. If the court rejects such a request, same-sex couples could start getting married in 30 days, the time it typically takes for the justices' opinions to become final. The justices said they would direct state officials "to take all actions necessary to effectuate our ruling," including requiring county marriage clerks to carry out their duties "in a manner consistent with the decision of this court." The case was set in motion in 2004 when the mayor of San Francisco - the unofficial capital of gay America - threw City Hall open to gay couples to get married in a calculated challenge to California law. Four-thousand gay couples wed before the Supreme Court put a halt to the practice after a month. Two dozen gay couples then sued, along with the city and gay rights organizations. Thursday's ruling could alter the dynamics of the presidential race and state and congressional contests in California and beyond by causing a backlash among conservatives and drawing them to the polls in large numbers. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator "doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions." The campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said they believe that the issue of marriage should be left to the states. Ten states now offer some form of legal recognition to same-sex couples - in most cases, domestic partnerships or civil unions. In the past few years, the courts in New York, New Jersey and Washington state have refused to allow gay marriage. Outside the San Francisco courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as news spread of the decision. Jeanie Rizzo, one of the plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, via cell phone and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?" Shannon Minter of the National Center for Lesbian Rights said same-sex marriage advocates could not have hoped for a more favorable ruling by the Republican-dominated court. "It's a total victory," Minter said. California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners many of the legal rights and responsibilities afforded to married couples, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support. Citing a 1948 California Supreme Court decision that overturned a ban on interracial marriages, the justices struck down the state's 1977 one-man, one-woman marriage law, as well as a similar, voter-approved law that passed with 61 percent in 2000. The chief justice was joined by Justices Joyce Kennard and Kathryn Werdegar, all three of whom were appointed by Republican governors, and Justice Carlos Moreno, the only member of the court appointed by a Democrat. In a dissent, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the majority but said that the court overstepped its authority and that changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters. Justices Ming Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented. California's secretary of state is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to put the gay-marriage amendment on the ballot. Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed legislation that would have granted marriage to same-sex couples, said in a statement that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling." --- Associated Press writers Terence Chea, Jason Dearen, Juliana Barbassa and Evelyn Nieves in San Francisco and Liz Sidoti in Washington contributed to this report.
Poster Comment: In a commercial system of law no discrimination as regards "TAXPAYERS" can be shown to be legal. The Jig is up and this will stand. America is screwed !
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#1. To: noone222 (#0)
Behold the power of the Pink lobby. This is all about economics; medical benefits and retirement plans. "Domestic partners" weren't recognized as beneficiaries by insurance co's, soooo they took the back door route, so to speak.
You might find this interesting. I have recently read humanum genus by Pope Leo XIII, which is one of the many Papal encyclicals on freemasonry. He addresses that very issue of state control over the marriage contract. this is from April 1884. So the basis for no state involvement in marriage is indeed compatible with a Christian , (in this case Catholic Christian,) view : 21. What refers to domestic life in the teaching of the naturalists is almost all contained in the following declarations: that marriage belongs to the genus of commercial contracts, which can rightly be revoked by the will of those who made them, and that the civil rulers of the State have power over the matrimonial bond; that in the education of youth nothing is to be taught in the matter of religion as of certain and fixed opinion; and each one must be left at liberty to follow, when he comes of age, whatever he may prefer. To these things the Freemasons fully assent; and not only assent, but have long endeavored to make them into a law and institution. For in many countries, and those nominally Catholic, it is enacted that no marriages shall be considered lawful except those contracted by the civil rite; in other places the law permits divorce; and in others every effort is used to make it lawful as soon as may be. Thus, the time is quickly coming when marriages will be turned into another kind of contract—that is into changeable and uncertain unions which fancy may join together, and which the same when changed may disunite. With the greatest unanimity the sect of the Freemasons also endeavors to take to itself the education of youth. They think that they can easily mold to their opinions that soft and pliant age, and bend it whither they will; and that nothing can be more fitted than this to enable them to bring up the youth of the State after their own plan. Therefore, in the education and instruction of children they allow no share, either of teaching or of discipline, to the ministers of the Church; and in many places they have procured that the education of youth shall be exclusively in the hands of laymen, and that nothing which treats of the most important and most holy duties of men to God shall be introduced into the instructions on morals.
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." I did find it interesting ! It's my humble opinion that the Popes, Masonics and Zionazis are all the same but often act in opposition to each other to confuse the rubes and to work that hegelian magic. I'd been telling a friend of mine forever that if this gay thing ever went to court that gay marriage would be upheld. Homos are taxpayers in a "COMMERCIAL" system.
Here is another aspect of this: Protocols XIV: “… 5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. …” From the 45 Communist (read that: Zionist) goals read into the 1963 Congressional Record “… 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." …”
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Not only them, this is an international agenda ...
Hows about them "Protocols" ... and their predictive ability.
And it cannot be opposed thanks to political correctness and radical left wing politics. We know the ONLY answer to this pig sty and the elites who rule us. Voting, faxing, calling, bitching, etc are useless.
Not if ... but when !
January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America. At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen: [From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen] CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS 1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. 3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. 4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. 5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. 6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. 7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. 8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. 9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. 10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. 11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) 12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. 13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. 14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. 16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. 17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. 18. Gain control of all student newspapers. 19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. 20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions. 21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. 22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms." 23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art." 24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." 29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. 30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." 31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. 32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. 33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. 34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. 35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. 36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. 37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. 38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. 39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. 40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. 42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. 43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. 45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
oops. Oh well, communist goals and zionazi protocols ... what's the dif ?
zip, nada, nil
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
I disagree, although the infiltration of masons into the church is well documented and covered in many scholarly catholic books as well as in the masons own publications. The church has always stood against masons and exposed their diabolical plots, and even in recent pronouncements cardinal ratzinger (now the Pope) stated that Catholics are still today forbidden to be masons. here are some interesting quotes ---- Pope Paul VI stunned the world with the words: "We have the impression that through some cracks in the wall the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God: it is doubt, uncertainty, questioning, dissatisfaction, confrontation.... We thought that after the Council a day of sunshine would have dawned for the history of the Church. What dawned, instead, was a day of clouds and storms, of darkness, of searching and uncertainties." [Pope Paul VI, June 29, 1972, Homily during the Mass for Sts. Peter & Paul, on the occasion of the ninth anniversary of his coronation] His teaching was met with abundant ridicule, mostly from the clergy. Fr Gabriel Amorth said in an interview: "I have no doubt whatever that the Devil is tempting the upper levels of the Church, above all, just as he tempts every upper level – political and industrial." ------------- St. John Chrysostom said, "The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops!" ---------------- Here is a sampling of what the Popes said about freemasonry: "Their Law is Untruth: Their God is the Devil and their Cult is Turpitude." - Pope Pius VIII "Filled with the spirit of Satan, who knows how to transform himself into an angel of light, Freemasonry puts forward as its pretended aim the good of humanity. Paying a lip service to the authority of law, and even to the obligations of religion, it aims at the destruction of civil authority and the Christian priesthood, both of which it regards as the foes of human liberty." - Pope Leo XIII "For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places." Ephesians 6:12. ---------------------------------------------- JFK: "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret pro- ceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarrented concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.http://www.networker.www3.50megs.com/jfk8.html John Quincy Adams, The Sixth President of The United States said: "I am prepared to complete the demonstration before God and man, that the Masonic oaths, obligations and penalties, cannot, by any possibility, be reconciled to the laws of morality, of Christianity, or of the land." J.Q. Adam's letter to Ed. Livingston. Samuel Adams, The Father of the Revolution said: "I am decidedly opposed to all secret societies whatever!" John Hancock, President of the Continental Congress said: "I am opposed to all secret societies." James Madison, The Fourth President of the United States said: "From the number and character of those who now support the charges against Freemasonry, I cannot doubt that it is at least susceptible of abuse, outweighing any advantages promised by its patrons." Whereas George W. Bush, when asked about his membership in Yale Skull & Bones on NBC's Meet the Press with Tim Russert, said "It's so secret I can't talk about it". Patrick Henry: "We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst; and to provide for it."
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." The legate of Albert I of Hapsburg, King of the Romans (1298-1308), confirms the rights of the Holy See to Boniface VIII (1295-1303) Ratzinger is known to have been the authority behind church policy to hide, move and relocate paedophile priests into unsuspecting parishes worldwide. I was raised Catholic, was an altar boy that had to learn the latin mass and I never had any sort of a problem with priests or nuns. I think the church has always been "worldly" and evil.
Adam Weishaupt was a Jew, a Jesuit, and Illuminati (Mason). He is representative of the complete trinity of evil.
Zip-a-roo....
I’d like to see some real numbers on how much more the insurance companies will have to pay to cover hundreds of thoudands of sodomites, whose truly filthy sex habits make them prone to uspeakable diseases. Of course the increased premiums will be passed on to Joe Public, who quite soon will not be covered by his work place. I’ve seen where the airspace biggies are hiring more and more “contractors” to fill the professional ranks. Pay is good, but no vacations, holiday pay or insurance.
Sounds like a cop who openly proclaims his contempt for the rule of law is urging violation of the law.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You hear lots of sounds in your head, most of which you answer, I'm told.
Why, that almost sounds obscene!
If you will go along with me we'll travel with the tide Correct. Private plans will go the way of the Dodo once a veto proof Senate is seated. Oh well.....celebrate diversity.
#2. To: noone222 (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#3. To: Artisan (#2)
(Edited)
#4. To: Jethro Tull, noone222 (#1)
Behold the power of the Pink lobby. This is all about economics; medical benefits and retirement plans
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
Behold the power of the Pink lobby.
#6. To: wbales (#4)
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." …”
#7. To: noone222 (#5)
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
We know the ONLY answer
#9. To: noone222, wbales, all (#8)
Communist goals, 1963
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
#11. To: noone222 (#10)
communist goals and zionazi protocols ... what's the dif ?
#12. To: noone222 (#3)
It's my humble opinion that the Popes, Masonics and Zionazis are all the same but often act in opposition to each other to confuse the rubes and to work that hegelian magic.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#13. To: Artisan (#12)
#14. To: Artisan (#12)
#15. To: noone222 (#10)
communist goals and zionazi protocols ... what's the dif ?
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
"Domestic partners" weren't recognized as beneficiaries by insurance co's …
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
And it cannot be opposed thanks to political correctness and radical left wing politics. We know the ONLY answer to this pig sty and the elites who rule us. Voting, faxing, calling, bitching, etc are useless.
#18. To: aristeides (#17)
Sounds like a cop who openly proclaims his contempt for the rule of law is urging violation of the law.
#19. To: aristeides (#17)
And I will always keep you on the sheltered side
#20. To: karelian (#16)
Of course the increased premiums will be passed on to Joe Public, who quite soon will not be covered by his work place.
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