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Title: Does this ever happen to you?
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Published: May 16, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-05-16 17:44:44 by Critter
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Views: 1471
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I can't make any serious comments on any of the articles I have been seeing here for the last few weeks, cuz the only serious comment that might be made might have to include some kind of an allusion to a threat of violence or overthrow of government. I even had to be careful how I worded this. lol Isn't it grand to live in a free country with free speech protections?
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#1. To: Critter (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I think the founders would disagree. :)
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
That's why I like pictures. They say so much. The solution is to quote the founding fathers and leave an attribution. Nobody but NOBODY can run you up for that.
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
Nobody but NOBODY can run you up for that. excellent advice. specific quote recommendations?
Did Jefferson mean what he said when he wrote "I hold that a little rebellion now and again is a good thing?" You can also phrase it like a question. "What were they talking about?" What exactly DID John Adams mean when he wrote to his son, "I study war so that you may study mathematics." - did he intend that for us as well? When the Sons of Liberty rose up against unjust taxation, is there anything they left behind as an indication that they wanted the rebellion to continue? Say, you know, if you just replace the word "King" in the Declaration of Independence with "US Federal Government" doesn't it seem weird how true it sounds even today?
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
Remember the movie Red Dawn? You know, the scene where they're at the drive-in that is being used as a re-education center. What was that quote? Oh! Yeah! "America is a whorehouse where the revolutionary ideals of your forefathers have been corrupted and sold in alleys..." Doesn't that pretty much describe where we are now? How did we get here? What can we do about it?
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
There you go... asking a question that needs to be answered in ways that will land a guy in jail. hehehe
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Nope! The answer is to respond with another question. "So what do you think Jefferson would do?"
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
I don't know, but I know what Adams would say: I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
So why do you think all of this is now forgotten? See? We can have an entire conversation with quotes and questions!
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
Good quotes. I like it. We can use them in our every day conversations too.
What do you think Patrick Henry would do to George W. Bush if he met him?
Probably use him for inspiration to write a pamphlet or a speech like the one he delivered to the Second Virginia Convention. "Give me liberty or give me death!" is a quote that lives on forever and has inspired thousands to shake off the shackles that bind them. It is odd that the Founding Fathers were speaking to one George back then and here we are looking at another George right now, isn't it? The similarities are striking.
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Why? The main reason is that it hasn't been taught in generations.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Holy shit Batman! A revolutionary is among us! Anyone got the 911 number?
God is always good!
Nice.
"What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson: his motto. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion... We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half, for each State. What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion?" --Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith, 1787. ME 6:372 "If our country, when pressed with wrongs at the point of the bayonet, had been governed by its heads instead of its hearts, where should we have been now? Hanging on a gallows as high as Haman's." --Thomas Jefferson to Maria Cosway, 1786. ME 5:444 "The late rebellion in Massachusetts has given more alarm than I think it should have done. Calculate that one rebellion in thirteen states in the course of eleven years, is but one for each state in a century and a half. No country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of power in the hands of government prevent insurrections." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. ME 6:391 "[An occasional insurrection] will not weigh against the inconveniences of a government of force, such as are monarchies and aristocracies." -- Thomas Jefferson to T. B. Hollis, July 2, 1787. (*) ME 6:155 "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." -- Declaration of Independence as originally written by Thomas Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315 "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787. "A single good government becomes... a blessing to the whole earth, its welcome to the oppressed restraining within certain limits the measure of their oppressions. But should even this be counteracted by violence on the right of expatriation, the other branch of our example then presents itself for imitation: to rise on their rulers and do as we have done." --Thomas Jefferson to George Flower, 1817. ME 15:141 "We surely cannot deny to any nation that right whereon our own government is founded, that every one may govern itself according to whatever form it pleases and change these forms at its own will... The will of the nation is the only thing essential to be regarded." --Thomas Jefferson to Gouverneur Morris, 1792. ME 9:36 "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429 "Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing [a people] to slavery." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. (*) ME 1:193, Papers 1:125 "When patience has begotten false estimates of its motives, when wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality." --Thomas Jefferson to M. deStael, 1807. ME 11:282 "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson: his motto. "If ever there was a holy war, it was that which saved our liberties and gave us independence." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:430 "The oppressed should rebel, and they will continue to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them and all partial distinctions, exclusions and incapacitations are removed." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:548 "As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803. FE 8:256 "If the appeal to arms is made, it will depend entirely on the disposition of the army whether it issue in liberty or despotism." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Rutledge, 1788. "War... is not the most favorable moment for divesting the monarchy of power. On the contrary, it is the moment when the energy of a single hand shows itself in the most seducing form." --Thomas Jefferson to Hector St. John de Crevecoeur, 1788. ME 7:115 Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation Death of Habeas Corpus: “Your words are lies, Sir.”
You could expand a little and quote from the Communist Manifesto's Ten Commandments and determine which ones have not been fully implemented yet. 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. 5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. 8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Yes you do.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Bookmarked.
Awesome collection. Thanks!
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
"If ever there was a holy war, it was that which saved our liberties and gave us independence." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:430 "The oppressed should rebel, and they will continue to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them and all partial distinctions, exclusions and incapacitations are removed." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:548 "As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803. FE 8:256 excellent! thank you, Uncle Bill.
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#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
Violence is not a solution, it only creates more problems.
#3. To: Critter (#0)
Don't let turtle know I have him on bozo or I'll put you on bozo too!
#4. To: Critter (#0)
#5. To: mirage, Critter (#4)
The solution is to quote the founding fathers and leave an attribution.
#6. To: christine, Critter (#5)
excellent advice. specific quote recommendations?
#7. To: christine, Critter (#5)
movie quotes work well too!
#8. To: mirage (#7)
What can we do about it?
#9. To: Critter (#8)
There you go... asking a question that needs to be answered in ways that will land a guy in jail. hehehe
#10. To: mirage (#9)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." —Samuel Adams
#11. To: Critter (#10)
#12. To: mirage (#6)
#13. To: mirage (#11)
#14. To: Old Friend (#13)
What do you think Patrick Henry would do to George W. Bush if he met him?
#15. To: Critter (#0)
Isn't it grand to live in a free country with free speech protections?
#16. To: mirage (#11)
So why do you think all of this is now forgotten?
#17. To: Critter, all (#0)
I can't make any serious comments on any of the articles I have been seeing here for the last few weeks, cuz the only serious comment that might be made might have to include some kind of an allusion to a threat of violence or overthrow of government.
#18. To: christine, critter (#5)
specific quote recommendations?
Don't let turtle know I have him on bozo or I'll put you on bozo too!
#19. To: Critter (#0)
Does this ever happen to you?
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#20. To: farmfriend (#18)
#21. To: TwentyTwelve (#20)
#22. To: mirage (#6)
Say, you know, if you just replace the word "King" in the Declaration of Independence with "US Federal Government" doesn't it seem weird how true it sounds even today?
#23. To: Critter (#0)
I even had to be careful how I worded this.
#24. To: Uncle Bill (#21)
#25. To: Uncle Bill (#21)
#26. To: Uncle Bill (#21)
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson: his motto.
#27. To: Critter, REDPANTHER (#0)
BUMP
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