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Title: Obama rallies tens of thousands at Portland waterfront
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URL Source: http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/05/obamamayvisit.html
Published: May 18, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-05-18 21:16:15 by Ferret Mike
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Illinois Sen. Barack Obama urged tens of thousands of supporters under sunny skies at Portland's waterfront to send a message in Tuesday's primary that the time has come for change. "We are tired of business as usual and we are going to change America," he told the crowd, which filled the bowl south of the Hawthorne Bridge and spilled into boats on the Willamette River and along the bridge. Obama said the crowd of 30,000 was spectacular, but estimates ranged as high as 70,000. Obama focused his remarks on Republican Sen. John McCain, and promised that Democrats would be united in their battle against him. The campaigns of Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton were making one final, frenetic charge to the finish line today in Oregon, a state once dismissed as "irrelevant" in choosing the Democratic nominee. Obama started his day greeting seniors at Huntington Terrace Assisted Living Facility in Gresham and warning them about Republican plans for Social Security. While he was speaking there, thousands were lining up on downtown streets more than two hours ahead of the rally. Obama will wrap up his Oregon quest with a town hall meeting in Pendleton tonight. Clinton was being represented by her husband, former President Clinton, and daughter, Chelsea, who are barnstorming their way south with stops in Portland, Salem and Ashland. Sporting a blue "Hillary 2008" baseball cap, the former president told more than 1,000 people at Salem's sun-drenched Riverfront Park to ignore the growing news media consensus that Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has all but wrapped up the nomination. "Don't you let anyone tell you she can't win," Clinton said. "You can still make your voices heard." In Salem Sunday, Clinton received a rousing introduction from Gov. Ted Kulongoski, who has remained a staunchly loyal Hillary Clinton superdelegate, one of the delegates not bound by state voting results. At the waterfront, Obama said to ignore the Republican attacks that emphasize he isn't ready to be president. "This is our moment," he said. "This is our time." Obama told the seniors at the Huntington Terrace Retirement Center today that McCain would threaten the Social Security because he supports privatizing the program. "Let me be clear, privatizing Social Security was a bad idea when George W. Bush proposed it, it's a bad idea today," Obama said. "That's why I stood up against this plan in the Senate and that's why I won't stand for it as president." Obama said McCain also would push to raise the retirement age for collecting Social Security benefits or trim annual cost-of-living increases. Obama has rejected both ideas as solutions to the funding crisis projected for Social Security in favor of making higher-income workers pay more into the system. McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds accused Obama of making "misinformed partisan attacks." "John McCain has been clear about his belief that we must fix Social Security for future generations and keep our promises to today's retirees, but raising taxes should not be the answer to every problem," Bound told the Associated Press. Today's Obama events follow his ramble up Interstate 5 on Saturday and a Friday visit by Hillary Clinton. The campaign flurry signals the end of a historic primary battle -- Oregon hasn't seen this kind of attention in a primary since 1968, when Robert Kennedy crisscrossed the state. Obama will spend election night in Iowa, where his campaign was launched into the spotlight. Clinton won't be in Oregon either and is expected to be in Kentucky, where polls show her ahead of Obama. Recent polls show Obama is likely to win in Oregon. Analysts increasingly consider him the most likely to win the nomination, a view he did little to dissuade Saturday. At stops in Roseburg, Eugene and Salem, Obama dwelled on health care and his clashes with McCain. He said McCain's plan to offer a tax credit for working families to buy health insurance doesn't go far enough. And he said he would pull all troops out of Iraq years before McCain would. "You've got John McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, and I want to end the war in Iraq. You've got John McCain essentially offering Bush's health plan, and you've got me offering universal health care," Obama said. "People could not have a starker choice in this election." Bounds, spokesman for the McCain campaign, agreed that the gap between the two is wide. He said Obama "is not someone whose plan for Iraq includes success or victory." He said McCain is talking about winning the war in a way that allows for a stable transition by Iraqis to a Democratic society. Obama visited with nurses at Sacred Heart Medical Center in Eugene, ate ice cream at a Eugene shop and stopped at the Keizer Iris Festival on his way up to Portland. As he was leaving Sacred Heart, one staff member shouted out a question that stopped Obama in his tracks: "Mr. Obama, how do I know I can trust you?" asked Ron Spooner, an X-ray technician. Obama walked over. "That's always a tough question," Obama said. But without missing a beat, he suggested Spooner read one of his books and look up his resume. "Look at what I've done over the last 20 years," Obama suggested. Spooner told Obama he was trying to make up his mind between him and McCain. He said he started leaning Obama's way when the candidate refused to go along with suggestions for a proposed summerlong "holiday" from federal gas taxes. "To me, that was being honest," Spooner said. The two shook hands, and Obama promised more honesty. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton told a crowd of several hundred at North Clackamas Park in Milwaukie that his wife was the best and most electable candidate. Sweating through a red-checkered shirt under a hot sun, the former president told voters to ignore polls and cast their ballots. "It's silly for some people to say, oh, you don't matter, Kentucky doesn't matter, that everybody doesn't need to vote," Bill Clinton said. He spent nearly 50 minutes giving a detailed and sweeping speech that covered Iran's nuclear ambitions and his wife's plans for health care, the economy and the military. And he discussed Oregon-specific issues, saying Hillary Clinton is the only candidate to co-sponsor bills that would better regulate liquefied natural gas terminals and that would extend timber payments to rural counties. "She can win in the popular vote, she's ahead in the electoral vote, she can still win this thing," the former president said. "But the most important thing is, she'd be the best president." Earlier in Portland, Chelsea Clinton spent an hour talking to 40 volunteers training to be Planned Parenthood political activists. Clinton emphasized her mother's long support for reproductive rights and health care. As president, Clinton said, her mother would expand sex education and teen pregnancy prevention programs, raise taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year, make it easier for generic drug companies to make pills and nominate pro-choice judges to the U.S. Supreme Court. When Alicia Viani asked what Sen. Clinton would do to counter oppression of women, Chelsea Clinton said her mother would expand federal health insurance coverage for contraception, increase the food stamps program and the federal earned income tax credit. And she discussed Clinton's health plan in detail, saying it would insure all Americans but Obama's plan would not. Viani later said she was pleased with Clinton's attention to women's and reproductive rights. But "I'm not voting for her mom," she said. She said Obama seems more likely than Clinton to make "radical change on many fronts." -- Harry Esteve; harryesteve@news.oregonian.com -- Andy Dworkin; andydworkin@news.oregonian.com Noelle Crombie and Whitney Malkin of The Oregonian and The Associated Press contributed to this posting.
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Up Columbia Street to Fourth Avenue, north one block to Jefferson, east to Third Avenue, north another block to Madison, east to Second Avenue, in front of the Justice Center and north to Salmon Street (heavy breathing here while we get our second wind). OK. West for six blocks along Salmon to the Hilton Hotel, across the front of the Hilton, across Broadway to Columbia Sportswear, with the end of the line in front of where the Taste of Bali Restaurant was. That was at 2:30, usually with the sidewalks filled with people four to five across. Forty minutes later, Steven Kassing of Portland was finally approaching Waterfront Park on Columbia Street. The line had been even longer at noon when he, his wife, their one-year-old and his mother-in-law got in it, starting by Pioneer Place. By the time they finally neared the Willamette River, Obama had already been speaking for 10 minutes. But here's the amazing thing: They had zero complaints. "Now it looks like we're going to show up just when he's done," Kassing said. "But it's worth it." http://www.oregonlive.com/news/ This is huge for a primary election crowd. It rivals the one Kerry had in the same venue during tha last general election.
No big deal. 8000 in Louisville, Kentucky showed up to see the black wonder yet he is still going to lose Kentucky by at least 30 percentage points to Hillary. The cultist followers flock to see him, they are a minority though. Most don't care to see the black wonder in person, he is no big deal. But I'm sure you wet your pants on sight of him.
God is always good!
Of course Portland, and Multnomah County in general, are slightly to the left of Mao. They've already contstructed their hive mind paradise with the Urban Growth Boundary which prevents people from building a house on their own land, and has made Portland one of the highest priced housing markets in the country, when adjusted for average per capita income. Makes me glad I live in another County. The only place further to the left, in Oregon, is The People's Prefect of Eugene and the thought police at the People's Re-education Center of Oregon (formerly a University of higher learning but now is a re-education center for the NWO's corporately funded "green movement" to drive up oil profits and set up the extermination of large segments of the "useless eaters" i.e., us).
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Notice how the controlled media (The Oregonian is owned by the New Yuck Times) builds up the numbers showing up for the Liberal Messiah and minimized, or failed to report them altogether, the numbers of those supporting Ron Paul, or those who rallied against Bush/Chainey's illegal, immoral, and insane pogrom in Iraq. It is clear that Oh'bummer is being pushed by the Power Elite. And the sucker class bites on another PsyOp and controlled Puppet.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
"We are tired of business as usual and we are going to change America," he told the What the sheep did NOT ask is: "Into what will you change it?"
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx The phony conservative swing of the pendulum has nearly returned to the left. Now that Americans are totally disgusted by fake conservatism, they are ready to vote for some fake liberalism.
That's about the size of it. I would make one modification: "The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Yep. It's also clear Hillary didn't get the memo.
God is always good!
That's news to me, because the biggest story on Campus other then the Olympic Trials which are going to start soon is the new 100 million plus dollar basketball venue and the expansion at the Foot Ball venue, Autzen Stadium. They are behind on repair and upkeep on school infrastructure, and more concerned about increasing foreign student enrollment then in serving in state residents as good as they used to. What is big about the 75,000 people who came to see the next president of the United States was the fact Portland is the largest city as Caucasian dominant as it is. It is a large urban area with lots of very young, well to do people who are very business and money making oriented. The crowd rivaled Kerry's rally in 2004, and this will amplify Barack Obama's win in Oregon in the eyes of the remaining undecided super delegates.
"We have had a lot of rallies," he said. "This is the most spectacular setting, the most spectacular crowd we have had this entire campaign." Portland is a Democratic stronghold, known for its bike paths and green ethos. It was one of the few cities in the country to briefly allow gay marriage, frowns on plastic bags and chain restaurants alike and was christened "Little Beirut" by no less than President George H.W. Bush. In August of 2004, then-Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry held a large rally in the same location, drawing about 45,000 people. But on Sunday, Obama topped that without even being the official nominee, speaking to a crowd filled with sunscreen-smeared babies in sun hats, union members in matching T-shirts, elderly ladies fanning themselves under the hot sun and twenty-somethings dancing to his opening act, the Portland-based band The Decemberists." http://www.kpic.com/news/local/19059349.html The largest crowd of the primary campaign. 75,000 people in Portland Oregon to see the next president of the United States, Barack Obama. Let me know when Chuckie gets a high school auditorium half filled with supporters.
It is a large urban area with lots of very young, well to do people who are very business and money making oriented. WV is nearly all white (Caucasian), all old people, uneducated, lowest working class. In their ignorance they repudiated Obama. Culture being the overriding factor. In Oregon, highly educated, wealthy, no old people, their culture brought them out en masse for the next President. There seems to be a clash of cultures there.
I was at the Kerry rally in 2004. There were allot of older people too. In fact, at that particular rally, Bush was speaking in neighboring Beaverton to a well vetted crowd and they put Kerry's wife on to speak to the crowd while they waited for Bush to end his speech as the media would then cut away to Kerry. The chimp refused to end his speech so they cut away before he was done. Everyone was worried about the older and youngest audience members in 2004 as it was very hot, and people were fainting and passing out because of the heat. Theresa Kerry talked a long time, it was hard not to hold that against her, she's no public speaker. ;-) Portland does have lots of young movers and shakers, but don't forget it is the enclave of allot of graying baby boomers. Many ballots are in already by the way. People have to drop them off at drop points now because the mail won't get them there if a ballot is mailed at this time. We have a high turnout rate because of the mail in ballot. Much of our canvassing in the local Obama campaign is geared to getting those ballots in.
Who cares? The message sounds nice and that's all that counts. Only wreckers, capitalist agents, and anti-revolutionaries question the practicality of our utopian goals. (Back in the 1950's Uncle Joe used to get on the radio every once in a while and announce massive prices cuts at the state run stores. Sure, the shelves were bare, but he meant well.)
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me. "If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
In a German parade "You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Ditto here. At PSU, they refer to UO as "UC Berkeley, Northern Campus" and I see no reason to quibble with that description.
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
It is a large urban area with lots of very young, well to do people who are very business and money making oriented. Mike, perhaps we might dwell for a moment upon your original statement , not on Kerry and his fellow Skuller, Chimp. To revisit this appreciation of the the people as young, well to do, money makers etc etc, lets compare the two cultures, mine as described and yours as you portray. Humans have a learned flaw of a desire for what is called an inferior/superior complex or syndrome if you will. Modern polite society has tried to soften the sharp edges of class distinction by adding code words, for instance... Poor/rich...now is needy/well to do uneducated/educated...now is under-educated/learned white/black...now is Caucasion/Afro-American/person of color black ghettos...inner city dwellers rural America...culture deprived (Obama described them to perfection) When a person stands at the very bottom of a class structured society, we can only look upward, giving us a rather broad view of what man is really like. Positioned at higher rungs, or at the top one can only look downward as there is nothing above. Accepting and or furthering the cause of class culture is not an admirable trait.
Putting this in perspective. Let's say it's 75,000. The last large gathering I attended was when Bill Graham died in 1991 in that helicopter crash. An inpromptu tribute to him in SF Golden Gate park turned out 375,000-500,000 plus the Dead, Santana, Crosby, Stills and Nash and Pearl Jam among others. "HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
The working lefties I talk to are still pissed at people who voted for Bush. They're murmuring about Nader. Obama is a non selection among many working people.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
What exactly do these very young wealthy produce?
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
And the sucker class bites on another PsyOp and controlled Puppet. None of that is any surprise.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So, in your mind, if a large group of people believe something or vote a certain way that automatically makes it right? Sounds like what you are saying. Of course the majority, be it a majority of one or one million can be just as wrong as the one guy who is saying that the sun does NOT revolve around the earth. Your hero, Barack Obama, promises "universal health care" and knowing how he feels about foreign aid I imagine he really means that. The stupid cs probably thinks the people of this country should give "health care"* to everyone on the planet, or at least help them pay for it. Sadly, unless people wake up and vote for someone who actually has some pro America beliefs, like Chuck Baldwin, America is probably on her last trip around the bowl with this next election. All the major candidates are owned by people with calculators for hearts and a darkness of spirit that would send demons screaming into the night. *Even if one were to assume that he is only talking about "universal health care" for Americans (which is not an assumption I would make), how do you imagine he will pay for it? Will he donate his salary and whatever money his wife has to that cause? And even if they both did that it wouldn't begin to cover the enormous costs. No, like all politicians he will make promises that other people will have to pay for. In other words, he is a thief at heart. While Americans (or any other people) have a right to give away their own money if they want to and invest it in what they believe to be worthy causes, no government has the right to steal from them to throw down various rat holes.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. your point about the softening of words/language made me think of one used often now. the word mislead is often used in place of lie.
It's pretty sophisticated, imo.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
Barack Obama would not be where he is with only black support or with just a narrow spectrum of support from certain classes of whites. I see his support as having achieved a broadness of base I never would have expected to see this soon and depending on how he runs his campaign he should have an easy run to the White House even though it is obvious the American culture will have a test to face as to how far they have matured past the blight to our country that racism is. I believe it is important to elect Barack Obama because he is the right man, not because he is finally not the usual white male candidate the Democratic and Republicans. And I have faith in this country to accept him as president. He is someone who will bring people together after a disastrous presidency where the game was advancing policy by leveraging people against one another and splitting people apart. I look forward to him proving that he is a man who is part of what makes us great as a country, and I have faith that he will.
Obviously not, as I still detest the error of electing the puppet Reagan as president.
Yeah, and I voted for him instead of Bill Clinton both times because I can't stand the Clintons. However, that is not anything more then a usual factor in a presidential race. Especially in a year where conservatives are more receptive to support a Barr or Baldwin to be president then they usually are. I have never seen such a profoundly large and diverse crowd simply just mortified and disgusted by a president as is the case for Bush. This will push people away from McCain, and naturally some will go third party. That is just how it goes.
Aw, c'mon. I live here and have for most of my life and am a native Northwesterner - and a lifelong Conservationist (I eschew the label environmentalist because environmentalism is about politics, primarily Marxist, NOT the environment). The only place as far to the left as Eugene and U of O is Bazerkely. Although Ashland is trying hard to catch up (and has guaranteed I'll not be an attendee at the Shakespeare Festival again). As was pointed out by JD numbers alone prove nothing. Take a look at the crowds at Nuremburg. Ron Paul's support at its peak was drawing impressive crowds but the Media deigned not to notice. The point I would make again is "follow the camera" - when the media touts a politician rather than pans them then you can clearly infer, from past experience, that the politician being pushed is a "made man". Because a large crowd of easily manipulated people can be drawn to a location to hear the pre-scripted words, written by a speech writer, mouthed by a politician only proves that people can be manipulated to act against their own best interests. Like a homing torpedoe the media controlled culture can be launched in the direction of the latest PsyOp/PR controlled/media inspired event. The difference between an Obama and a Ron Paul is that Ron Paul drew large numbers DESPITE the media trying every trick in the book to suppress that support. If Ron Paul had gotten the same level of media coverage, or even fair and accurate coverage (which I long since ceased to expect from the media) an appearance on the Portland waterfront would have packed it to overflowing. As a crosscheck look at how the anti-war rallies in Portland were covered. The Whoregonian and the local PsyOps Tee Bee media consistently tried to under-report the numbers who showed up (likely well over 100,000) by at least a factor of ten. They were mischaracterized and the local Pigs were out in force to suppress the events. I still recall riding by the long line of Pigs in their Darth Vader outfits standing by to loyally defend the suppression of the popular will. That was one spooky line-up that looked like a scene from "The Empire Strikes Back". It was the face of the kind of oppression that Oh'bummer fronts for. Freedom sells itself - the kind of Pseudo-Marxist (actually Fascist in reality) Totalitarian State that is being pushed by such as Obama, Hitlery, and McInsane has to be sold with heavy expenditures of time, and heavy money, to repackage it, and "brand it", as something other than what it is. If people were presented with a truly balanced data set Oh'bummer would draw about 15 people. Freedom sells itself, slavery has to be sold as something other than what it is. Edward Bernays must be laughing himself sick in his grave. The distorted "Horse Race" aspect of the coverage, with the failure to ask penetrating questions and the lobbing of Softballs, as well demonstrates the manipulation going on. Those of us who continue to exist in the reality based community are unwilling to again be manipulated. Unfortunately the numbers willing to accept the responsibility of thinking for themselves has been shrunk by dumbing down and several generations of media manipulation. You can either think for yourself or you can let the media tell you what you think. Red Pill or Blue Pill?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
The sheer number of people Obama assembled together can't be ignored and is a testimony to the political outsider mantra he has grabbed hold of.
See my #29 on this thread. As for U of O it has ceased being a place to educate, oh you can still learn some useful things there but you have to pick and choose carefully - with a level of discernment an inexperienced 18 year old generally does not have - but by and large it is a re-education center to inculcate the point of view and responses that the so-called rebellious Utes of the People's Re-education Center of Oregon are actually receiving.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The sheer number of people Obama assembled together can't be ignored and is a testimony to the political outsider mantra he has grabbed hold of. The "outside" schtick is great PsyOps and works on a certain class of suckers everytime - along with the undefined repetition of "change". When you've studied the stuff the tag lines and manipulations start jumping out at you. Both "outsider" and "change" are good PsyOps tag lines to push as anyone with 3 functioning braincells, sorry to leave you out Freepers, can see how rotten and corrupt the current political scene is, and change is definitely in order. So, that being the case the PsyOp manipulator grabs on to the word change, refurbishes the same old turd with a new coat of polish, repackages it, and re-sells it to the suckers.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
At UO these days, if you don't adhere to what the masses wish you to believe, you will be the recipient of violence perpetrated against you. Its so nice to know that "activists" don't have an argument.
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
This is true of all the University kids he attracts. Here at Penn State, the Brownshirt youth approached myself and wife as we were in line at our favorite breakfast place. Using the Bradly Effect, I told them we LOVE O, and want him to win EVERYTHING (I wasn't voting). They left my face both thrilled and deceived. Lefties are difficult at best; young, mindless ones are a complete irritant.
Watch for O to come out with a bevy of Super delegate announcements Wednesday, the day after he takes a drubbing in KY. It's political theater.
In Oregon, of late, they have been resorting regularly to violence. Many of we natives wish they'd go infest Berkeley where they belong. The newest addition to my car is a can of Bear Repellent. I have literally had to pepper-spray protesters away from me before. The Portland Police laugh and give me a thumbs-up.
McCain/Obama '08 -- Because the next step is Socialism rather than Freedom.
Such protests are why they invented night sticks.
Its so nice to know that "activists" don't have an argument. Exactly - when someone has to turn to violence it becomes apparent that they do not have a valid argument and you are running into a herd mentality spurred by a common irrational agreement. They want their "Bread and Circuses" and do not like anyone forcing them to look at reality. That they turn to violence demonstrates as well how strongly they have been conditioned. When someone who holds false data is confronted with true data which contradicts their "beliefs" violence is a frequent reaction - they cannot deal with the mental conflict and so rather than think their way through they defend the false data, and their world view, with violence. You have challenged their stable data and rocked their universe and they are not sane enough, or knowledgeable enough, to work through it rationally. Their reaction is irrational but, then virtually all leftist politics is irrational. If you look around you can see the mechanism at work in other venues.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
So anyone that doesn't support the racist Obama is a racist in this rodent's mind. Obama can't win. If you haven't figured that out by now then you are incredibly stupid. His sole purpose for being where he is at now is to cause race riots when he gets taken out by the very people who put him there.
God is always good!
My cynicism doesn't run as deep as your's does, sorry. I have my misgivings about the entire process at this point, but I am not completely abandoning the process. I am willing to give Obama the chance and am doing so whether others think it's a bad idea or not. But thanks for sharing anyway.
And the sucker class bites on another PsyOp and controlled Puppet. Yep. I wonder how many employers encouraged their employees to show up. Sort of like a I LOVE KIM JONG IL rally.. ;)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestObama Rally: The Line by Dave Hogan, The Oregonian Sunday May 18, 2008, 4:43 PM How badly did people want to see Sen. Barack Obama on Sunday? Here's where one line was at 2:30 p.m. when his speech was scheduled to begin in Portland's Waterfront Park. Thousands of people were still waiting - often in the hot sun - to get in - or at least get close, but first they had to snake along this route:
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
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#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#4. To: christine, Peppa, farmfriend, Cynicom, ratcat, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, FOH, Artisan, angle, lodwick, duckhunter, Kamala, HOUNDDAWG, James Deffenbach, Percy Dovetonsils, Pinguinite, ratcat, Palo Verde, aristeides, all (#0)
#5. To: Ferret Mike, FOH, JETHRO TULL, RICKYJ, CHRISTINE (#0)
the time has come for change.
crowd mob.. 
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#6. To: IndieTX (#5)
#7. To: buckeye (#6)
Now that Americans are totally disgusted by fake conservatism, they are ready to vote for some fake liberalism.
"Now that
Americans Amurkin' Sheeple are totally disgusted by fake conservatism, they are ready to vote for some fake liberalism."
#8. To: IndieTX (#5)
What the sheep did NOT ask is: "Into what will you change it?"
#9. To: Original_Intent (#4)
It is clear that Oh'bummer is being pushed by the Power Elite.
#10. To: Original_Intent (#3)
The only place further to the left, in Oregon, is The People's Prefect of "Eugene and the thought police at the People's Re-education Center of Oregon (formerly a University of higher learning but now is a re-education center for the NWO's corporately funded "green movement" to drive up oil profits and set up the extermination of large segments of the "useless eaters" i.e., us)."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#11. To: Original_Intent (#4)
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"Even after months on the trail, Obama seemed slightly stunned by the size of the crowd, saying "Wow, wow, wow" as he surveyed the audience.
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks to people at Waterfront Park in Portland, Ore., Sunday, May 18, 2008. 
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#12. To: FOH (#8)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#13. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
What is big about the 75,000 people who came to see the next president of the United States was the fact Portland is the largest city as Caucasian dominant as it is.
#14. To: Cynicom (#13)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#15. To: IndieTX (#5)
What the sheep did NOT ask is: "Into what will you change it?"
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
#17. To: Original_Intent (#3)
Makes me glad I live in another County.
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
What is big about the 75,000 people who came to see the next president of the United States was the fact Portland is the largest city as Caucasian dominant as it is.
#19. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
#20. To: buckeye (#6)
Now that Americans are totally disgusted by fake conservatism, they are ready to vote for some fake liberalism
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
It is a large urban area with lots of very young, well to do people who are very business and money making oriented.
#22. To: Original_Intent (#4)
It is clear that Oh'bummer is being pushed by the Power Elite.
Lord Acton
#23. To: Ferret Mike, FOH (#12)
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The largest crowd of the primary campaign. 75,000 people in Portland Oregon to see the next president of the United States, Barack Obama. Let me know when Chuckie gets a high school auditorium half filled with supporters.
Lord Acton
#24. To: Cynicom (#18)
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#25. To: christine (#24)
the mislead is often used in place of lie.
#26. To: Cynicom (#18)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#27. To: James Deffenbach (#23)
"So, in your mind, if a large group of people believe something or vote a certain way that automatically makes it right?"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#28. To: angle (#20)
"The working lefties I talk to are still pissed at people who voted for Bush. They're murmuring about Nader. Obama is a non selection among many working people."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#29. To: Ferret Mike, James Deffenbach, Twenty Twelve, FOH, christine, Wudidiz, Arator, angle, lodwick, Cynicom, Percy Dovetonsils, all (#10)
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#28)
I have never seen such a profoundly large and diverse crowd simply just mortified and disgusted by a president as is the case for Bush.
#31. To: mirage (#17)
At PSU, they refer to UO as "UC Berkeley, Northern Campus" and I see no reason to quibble with that description.
#32. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike (#30)
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I have never seen such a profoundly large and diverse crowd simply just mortified and disgusted by a president as is the case for Bush.
#33. To: Original_Intent (#31)
#34. To: mirage (#33)
At UO these days, if you don't adhere to what the masses wish you to believe, you will be the recipient of violence perpetrated against you.
#35. To: Original_Intent (#32)
The "outside" schtick is great PsyOps and works on a certain class of suckers everytime - along with the undefined repetition of "change". When you've studied the stuff the tag lines and manipulations start jumping out at you.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
Lefties are difficult at best; young, mindless ones are a complete irritant.
#37. To: mirage (#36)
The newest addition to my car is a can of Bear Repellent. I have literally had to pepper-spray protesters away from me before. The Portland Police laugh and give me a thumbs-up.
#38. To: mirage (#33)
At UO these days, if you don't adhere to what the masses wish you to believe, you will be the recipient of violence perpetrated against you.
#39. To: Ferret Mike, *Racist 2008* (#26)
I see his support as having achieved a broadness of base I never would have expected to see this soon and depending on how he runs his campaign he should have an easy run to the White House even though it is obvious the American culture will have a test to face as to how far they have matured past the blight to our country that racism is.
#40. To: Original_Intent (#32)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#41. To: Original_Intent (#4)
It is clear that Oh'bummer is being pushed by the Power Elite.
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