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Title: The Conservative Movement: From Failure to Threat
Source: Rockwell
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 19, 2008
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2008-05-19 09:39:44 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 2000
Comments: 154

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn, christine, Jethro Tull, FOH, Critter, RickyJ. Original Intent (#0)

Please note that this cluster of traitorous Constitution-gutters and tyrant- makers is exclusive to the GOP. Some would have us believe that there is no significant difference between having a President Obama and a President McCain. Facts (which, as PRC states, conservative emotion now blots out) prove otherwise.

Are 4umers who find acceptable the continuation of these brownshirts in power all that different from the brownshirts themselves?

Arator  posted on  2008-05-19   9:48:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are 4umers who find acceptable the continuation of these brownshirts in power all that different from the brownshirts themselves?

Are folks who support statist whores all that different from the statist whores? Just curious.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-19   20:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's the part I don't get. The R party was infiltrated by a bunch of Marxist creeps who, with the backing of Marxist Media hijacked the very definition of Conservative; so that renders the original theory inoperative and the hijackers the fucking heroes?

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-19   20:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's the part I don't get. The R party was infiltrated by a bunch of Marxist creeps who, with the backing of Marxist Media hijacked the very definition of Conservative; so that renders the original theory inoperative and the hijackers the fucking heroes?

What I don't get is why otherwise seemingly sane people can all of a sudden decide that some establishment whore is the saviour of the republic. Some of the same people who used to know, or seemed to, that no establishment whore was worth voting for.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-19   20:58:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What I don't get is why otherwise seemingly sane people can all of a sudden decide that some establishment whore is the saviour of the republic. Some of the same people who used to know, or seemed to, that no establishment whore was worth voting for.

James I believe these people have reached the limits of what they will discern. After that they don't want to hear anymore. They don't want to see anymore. They don't want to do the dirty work necessary to reclaim our freedoms. They have had the insights and the discoveries and have come to the conclussion that they or nobody can do a thing about it within the system. They are weak. They are more dispicable than the plain ignorant who really cannot see what havoc they are supporting.

Ragin1  posted on  2008-05-19   21:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

James I believe these people have reached the limits of what they will discern. After that they don't want to hear anymore. They don't want to see anymore. They don't want to do the dirty work necessary to reclaim our freedoms. They have had the insights and the discoveries and have come to the conclussion that they or nobody can do a thing about it within the system. They are weak. They are more dispicable than the plain ignorant who really cannot see what havoc they are supporting.

Those are wise comments. I think you are correct. At least ignorant people have an excuse and if they are not WILLFULLY IGNORANT they can be cured of that. But stupid is forever and there is no cure.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-20   10:39:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't like to admit this James, but in the sake of honesty and clarity, they is we. Just by paying taxes or buying their product, we torture the children in Iraq. We turn Iraq/Afghanistan into stone age civilizations. We starve the Palestinians. We give no bid contracts to the elites private army. The list goes on and on. Very few are the men/women who live off the grid.

So we are left to vote for the Bush cartel, (clinton/mccain), or the war mongering progressive. At the moment I'll do what I have the courage to do. I'll write in Ron Paul.

Ragin1  posted on  2008-05-20   23:31:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#153. To: Ragin1 (#152)

I will probably vote for Chuck Baldwin assuming the Constitution Party makes it on the ballot in my state. I know from little local elections that they don't even count write ins (they don't show up in the totals and the candidates who have been written in are never shown to have received any votes). So it would be a waste of time, at least in my case, to write anyone in. Maybe it is different where you live--I think they should have to count every vote but unfortunately that is not the way it works. If I knew the vote would count I would write Ron in too.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-21 07:31:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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