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Title: Is the NYCPD Pension a Socialist Redistribution Scheme?
Source: Comprehensive Annual Financial Report of the NYCPPF
URL Source: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycppf/pdf/cafr2007.pdf
Published: May 20, 2008
Author: Liberal New York City Dwellers
Post Date: 2008-05-20 19:54:53 by Arator
Keywords: RNYCPD, Socialist, Parasites?
Views: 867
Comments: 38

On page 172 and 173 of the source document linked above are tables showing the revenue sources and expenses of the New York City Police Pension Fund.

In 2007, member contributions to the fund totaled $132 million. That sounds respectable, until you look at the contributions made by the City (ie NYC taxpayers):

$1,544,341,000!

That's $1.544 BILLION, folks. Overall, NYC taxpayers chipped in 55.8% of annual covered payroll into the NYC Police Pension Fund in 2007. Members? Only 4.78%.

Holy Obama-style socialism, Batman! That's a MASSIVE redistribution of wealth from the taxpayers of NYC to the boys in blue.


Poster Comment:

Damn, if I were a retired NYC police officer, I'd be more careful summarily condemning socialism, socialists or libertarians who plan on voting for a socialist in the fall in order to expedite the demolition of the GOP's fascist freakshow. ;^)

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#18. To: Arator (#0)

Holy Obama-style socialism, Batman! That's a MASSIVE redistribution of wealth from the taxpayers of NYC to the boys in blue.

I am not sure where you are going with this.

There was a time in America when working men and women received a retirement benefit as part of their compensation in exchange for their years of labor.

You think people working and being compensated for their labor is a bad thing?

What is the alternative? Slavery?

honway  posted on  2008-05-20   20:38:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: honway (#18) (Edited)

You think people working and being compensated for their labor is a bad thing?

JT left an impression on another thread that his pension was entirely funded by member contributions and then privately invested. He claimed that he was in no way a beneficiary of NYC socialism.

I have no problem with JT getting a generous pension. But, let's be honest about what it is and who's paying for it.

And, frankly, any government pension is potentially socialist and redistributive, since the ones who are ultimately paying for it aren't doing so voluntarily, unlike pensions provided as compensation by the private sector. There is no employer in the private sector anywhere that is contributing 56% of covered payroll into an employee pension fund. That is, on its face, a MASSIVE redistribution of wealth from NYC taxpayers to the police.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-20   20:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Arator (#24)

That is, on its face, a MASSIVE redistribution of wealth from NYC taxpayers to the police.

On its face you have not a clue about which you speak, not a clue.

When one signs on with NYPD, a pension is part of your pay, if you live to collect it. No man would be ignorant enough to accept only pay offered.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-20   21:02:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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