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Title: Oregon: 85% of the white vote goes to Hillary
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Published: May 20, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-05-20 21:33:13 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 864
Comments: 71

Wow. The nation is fractured.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Oregon, is 90% white, I heard. Are you saying that Hillary beat Obama 75% to 25% in Oregon?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-20   21:34:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Think white vote and turn on MSNBC. Have you cable, or do you still use a B&W w/rabbit ears?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-20   21:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't have MSNBC. I suppose this is another one of your misunderstandings.

I remember you posted a similar thread with false data in it some time ago during another primary vote. Your source was MSNBC.

But, you better answer the question. Is Hillary beating Obama in Oregon by 75-25, because if she doesn't she can't be getting 85% of the vote.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-20   21:40:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry you haven't cable, but MSNBC reported Hillary has disproportionate numbers of white votes in both KY and OR. Lets put numbers on it when it's finalized, but the bigger problem your guy has is this; the white working class (read, small town, gun owners) aren't buying his brand of redistributionism.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-20   21:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If Oregon is 90% White, Obama can't win the state unless he gets a majority of the Whites.

I believe it's known that Hillary gets the rural, the less educated, the white women and the elderly. The elderly and the rural tend to be White. The rural tend also to be less educated. It's not clear how big a role racism is playing in this.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-20   21:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's not clear how big a role racism is playing in this.

This is the talk since PA. He isn't getting the WWC (white working class) aka (toothless small towners)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-20   21:53:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is the talk since PA. He isn't getting the WWC (white working class) aka (toothless small towners)

Yes, but if the Whites of Kentucky reject Obama and the Whites of Oregon embrace him, you need to find something other than Whiteness to understand what's going on. Don't you agree? It could be that 'the working class' doesn't like him or there may be a combination of several factors but it may be that it's not the race that makes the difference. I mentioned age, education and gender. They all seem to be unevenly distributed between the 2. The Blacks are Obama's, for sure, regardless of age, gender, education or occupation, but I'm not so sure about the Whites.

Note that I'm helping you making your case that it's not 'racism' that determines pro or anti-Obama votes.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-20   22:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I understand what you're saying. What is totally perplexing to me is why is H still in this? She is damaging him in that he lost the white vote - large - in PA, WV, and now KY, all since his bible/guns & Rev Wright events. Barring a lightening strike, she can't win, but on she goes,,,,,

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-20   22:27:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

My impression is that Hillary's plan is to punish the Dems for denying her the nomination and the presidency. Lately, she's trying to peel the women away from Obama by claiming that she's a victim of sexism. She is also trying to deny Obama any chance in Florida and Michigan and, of course, she is pushing the White working class into McCain's arms. I don't know if it's going to work. The Obama McCain debates are going to be interesting and they are likely to determine the winner of the November election.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-20 22:33:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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