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Title: Oregon: 85% of the white vote goes to Hillary
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Published: May 20, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-05-20 21:33:13 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 71
Wow. The nation is fractured.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Oregon, is 90% white, I heard. Are you saying that Hillary beat Obama 75% to 25% in Oregon?
Think white vote and turn on MSNBC. Have you cable, or do you still use a B&W w/rabbit ears?
I don't have MSNBC. I suppose this is another one of your misunderstandings. I remember you posted a similar thread with false data in it some time ago during another primary vote. Your source was MSNBC. But, you better answer the question. Is Hillary beating Obama in Oregon by 75-25, because if she doesn't she can't be getting 85% of the vote.
Sorry you haven't cable, but MSNBC reported Hillary has disproportionate numbers of white votes in both KY and OR. Lets put numbers on it when it's finalized, but the bigger problem your guy has is this; the white working class (read, small town, gun owners) aren't buying his brand of redistributionism.
If Oregon is 90% White, Obama can't win the state unless he gets a majority of the Whites. I believe it's known that Hillary gets the rural, the less educated, the white women and the elderly. The elderly and the rural tend to be White. The rural tend also to be less educated. It's not clear how big a role racism is playing in this.
This is the talk since PA. He isn't getting the WWC (white working class) aka (toothless small towners)
Yes, but if the Whites of Kentucky reject Obama and the Whites of Oregon embrace him, you need to find something other than Whiteness to understand what's going on. Don't you agree? It could be that 'the working class' doesn't like him or there may be a combination of several factors but it may be that it's not the race that makes the difference. I mentioned age, education and gender. They all seem to be unevenly distributed between the 2. The Blacks are Obama's, for sure, regardless of age, gender, education or occupation, but I'm not so sure about the Whites. Note that I'm helping you making your case that it's not 'racism' that determines pro or anti-Obama votes.
Indeed. As one commentator said last night, if Appalachia were a country, Hillary could be its queen. But the country is not just Appalachia (thank God). Clearly Obama has a hillbilly problem. The only thing worse than not getting the hillbilly vote is...well...getting it. An analyst showed last night that the hillbilly Democrat vote went overwhelmingly for Bush in 2004. In other words, they like fascism almost as much as moonshine. A more pitiful bunch of voters there never were. Obama's better off without 'em.
Well, to write off OH, PA, KY and WV is to lose to McCain. The Rev Wright issue and his bitter, guns and bibles comment resonated in these hills and I assume they will in other pockets of the country where Americans still outnumber socialists.
I don't think all this blow really matters. The economy has sailed off the cliff and discussing who's holding the reins or going to be is somewhat moot.
#69. To: TwentyTwelve (#67)
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#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)
It's not clear how big a role racism is playing in this.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
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This is the talk since PA. He isn't getting the WWC (white working class) aka (toothless small towners)
#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#14)
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Yes, but if the Whites of Kentucky reject Obama and the Whites of Oregon embrace him, you need to find something other than Whiteness to understand what's going on.
#53. To: Arator (#50)
A more pitiful bunch of voters there never were. Obama's better off without 'em.
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#53)
#67. To: angle, FOH, wudidiz (#55)
The economy has sailed off the cliff and discussing who's holding the reins or going to be is somewhat moot.
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